Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #8

[J.M. Bee]

Actually, they did say that they don't know certain things (as opposed to not being at liberty to speak about them). In reply to a question about whether they thought this was an abduction, Kevin Winker, the Director of Investigative Operations, said the following:

"We don't know where Mollie is, and I am not going to draw any conclusions about the circumstances of her disappearance, other than to say that it is not consistent with her pattern of behavior."

That means: they don't know where she is, and they don't know anything about how she got there.

 

[Seattle1]

Seattk1 maybe you can post the official transcript from Kriegels interview on the 25th
The transcript is easy to find I just read it but don't know how to post it here
This is the interview the timeline refers too regarding suspects

People can read exactly what he says in the interview and make their own conclusion

I'm just a newbie or I would find a way to do it

Thanks

@cjack410 - Welcome to Websleuths, you're among friends here.

Please see my post #661 up-thread. The link in the post references a published timeline beginning July 16 to July 31, 2018. The statements by Sheriff Kriegels can be found under the timeline date July 25. I'm sorry that I cannot give you the entirety of the timeline, and/or transcript because it violates the TOS due to copyright infringement. I can only give you a snippet, but if you follow the link provided in my post you can see the Sheriff's entire statement, and complete timeline July 16-31. Hope this helps.

 

[AryaStark]

East Bay community prays for safe return of missing 20-year-old

 

[Jealoushe]

After watching the PC I feel as though they definitely have their eye on someone. Someone is being watched and that is likely why they don’t outright say there is a danger to the public.

I was also curious about the repeating comments about “getting to know mollie” and knowing who she was etc. Then I thought back to the brother saying he was disappointed in his interview. Tie that in with the LE commenting about technology and apps and not necessarily mentioning any other than SC. Could Mollie have been on a dating app and went willingly with someone from there? Could this be why no one knows, why the brother is now disappointed...?

My other question was if it seemed possible that someone in law enforcement was somehow involved. There was a call to her street around 5:00pm the 18th. If someone saw her come home and then chatted with her and found out her situation, it would give her every reason to trust them. It would make sense why LE is so tight lipped if they are keeping things from those on the inside too. Just my speculation only.

 

[Momma2cam]

Actually, they did say they don't know. Kevin Winker, the Director of Investigative Operations said the following in reply to a question about whether they thought this was an abduction:

"We don't know where Mollie is, and I am not going to draw any conclusions about the circumstances of her disappearance, other than to say that it is not consistent with her pattern of behavior."

That means: they don't know where she is, and they don't know anything about how she got there.

To me, that means no theoretical conclusions about the circumstances can be shared. Not that they have no idea. MOO.

 

[AryaStark]

Someone wanted to go on the wedding trip and possibly did something to Mollie. Just a theory for now.

Do you mean that someone wanted to go in her place? Sorry its been a long day ...

 

[Seattle1]

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[DexterMorgan]

Do you mean that someone wanted to go in her place? Sorry its been a long day ...

Yes. Like a jealous female that wants her boyfriend. Just a theory.

 

[BrittyB7]

I think that the family’s “ come home “ statement isn’t them imlpying that they believe she has gone on her own free will but rather them holding on to some glimmer of hope, no matter how small, that there is some possibility she is still out there and alive. Nobody wants to let go of that possibility, even it is extremely slim, especially if it’s someone you love dearly until faced with hard cold evidence (they find her body).

 

[bizzle2]

Jmo but what indications do WE have of foul play? I have seen cases where lots of LE searched for young women who did leave on their own...Ivy, the woman from Ohio who left hubby and baby for man she met at 7/11, and some who turned out to be suicide victims. All I am saying is we just don’t know from what we are allowed access to.

The fact that 30 DCI agents, multiple law enforcement agencies, and the FBI are all involved is a pretty good indication that foul play has occurred. It is not a crime for an adult woman to skip town without telling her family/boyfriend. All these agencies would not be spending their resources and manpower on this case if they had indications that she left voluntarily.

 

[ElementalLaura]

BTW, I too heard the guy in the presser today describe her sports-bra as a "sports top". That struck me as curious. However, I think he chose that phrase because he was uncomfortable saying "bra," as if to do so would sexualize her in some way. Every other report has had her in a sports-bra when she goes running, and this is a very popular look with young women these days. So I think that's what she was wearing & that is what she normally wore when running. As I said earlier, I think this is important because it might be what drew the perp's attention to her.

(BBM)

Yes, this. If I recall correctly, it was the county sheriff, who is a man of a certain age who wouldn't want his daughter (or wife or niece) described as running in a bra, sports or otherwise. He even stumbled a bit over the wording and seemed relieved to come up with "top" as a substitute.

Also note that Mollie was wearing a pink sports bra in a VSCO photo and her SM photos have been widely circulated. As you say, the neon pink catches the attention and may have caught the attention of a stalker.

 

[Weeobanite]

I've been looking for links, but haven't had any luck. I'm starting to think I might just imagine things. There are a couple things I remember reading, and I was hoping someone could tell me if they were actually said or if I should stop looking. TIA to anyone who can help.
The first thing was just the wording of something the sheriff (I think) had said earlier, which was, "No, we don't have any POI we can share with the public." in response to being asked if they had a POI. The second was that searching the pig farms was because of something they read on a SM page, and they were upset with people wasting their time posting rumors. Did anyone else read these things, or am I just losing it?

I read them too. I dont have links but they’ve been posted already. Your not losing it.. sometimes it can feel that way with all the misinformation and things getting muddled.

 

[Fireflye]

In reviewing the press conference the Iowa Dps Director Kevin Winker indicated that they have a timeline they are confident in but they can't tell you why Mollie is missing. Possibly they have the who, when, and how but not the why. The we are getting to know Mollie comment leans towards they are trying to figure out if it she left willingly or abducted or it could be both started out as willingly but turned took an unexpected turn (which has been stated before on this forum).

 

[boomburger]

I have a feeling the police suspect someone close to Mollie as being involved, based on what I have read so far today.

 

[MassGuy]

To me, that means no theoretical conclusions about the circumstances can be shared. Not that they have no idea. MOO.

I agree. At no point did I get the impression that law enforcement was clueless, quite the contrary, they simply saw no advantage to elaborating further on many details. I definitely got the impression that they know far more than they presently want to reveal.

 

[Hoosier952]

“Understanding who was in the area of Brooklyn on the evening of July 18 is important." -Quote from presser

Out of everything (and nothing) that was said during the presser, this is the only thing that really stuck out to me. The fact her description appears to include her running clothes and they want to know who was in the area that evening. Nothing about the next morning, nothing about red shirts and denim shorts.

While I have no doubt they could give the wrong or vague times or info to let a POI think they had no clue what was going on, they made it clear they have a solid timeline. They could have left that tidbit out all together. They could have easily said "around the time she went missing" to be vague, they certainly didn't have a problem with anything else being vague.

I'm also willing to admit I could be completely wrong.

 

[gregjrichards]

@J.M. Bee - Reference page 1 or the Media Link -maybe Fox News Interview(?).

Rob was asked when the last time he spoke to Mollie was and he responded last Sunday (before she went missing), and said they talked for 3 hours

We have not heard anything from Mollie’s Dad (or her Mum) to suggest she was depressed and scunnered with her job, studies, relationship or life. It is very difficult to hide your true demeanour for three solid hours on the phone. Mollie could have felt down of course but possibly not to the extent that she wanted to leave her life. I suffer from severe depression every day due to my numerous health problems and my parents can tell within a few minutes of speaking to them when my depression has worsened. I try my best to fake that I’m doing ok but they see through it.

I think it is likely Mollie’s Dad would have picked up on a change in his daughter if things were really bad and she was struggling to cope. I’m not saying there aren’t cases were people don’t up and leave or they commit suicide and people are blindsided and never saw it coming though.

 

[rosesfromangels]

The house has been on MSM. Here is a photo for you
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It looks idyllic. Apple pie and mom. Hardly the place you would expect a crime to occur!

 

[Inthedetails]

We have not heard anything from Mollie’s Dad (or her Mum) to suggest she was depressed and scunnered with her job, studies, relationship or life. It is very difficult to hide your true demeanour for three solid hours on the phone. Mollie could have felt down of course but possibly not to the extent that she wanted to leave her life. I suffer from severe depression every day due to my numerous health problems and my parents can tell within a few minutes of speaking to them when my depression has worsened. I try my best to fake that I’m doing ok but they see through it.

I think it is likely Mollie’s Dad would have picked up on a change in his daughter if things were really bad and she was struggling to cope. I’m not saying there aren’t cases were people don’t up and leave or they commit suicide and people are blindsided and never saw it coming though.

I had to look up the word scunnered.

 

[CookieMonster21]

I’m in disagreement with many here. With the resources available to the FBI, that many agents and investigators working on this, technology, etc, I think LE knows plenty. I don’t believe that they really need much of the public’s help at all, and that this is strategy. At the minimum, we know they have to have a solid timeline just from her Fitbit data alone. I’m sure they have been searching information of those close to her, behind the scenes. No huge reward, no massive sense of urgency for the public’s help leads me to believe that they know most of what they need.

I agree, there was no sense of desperation at the press conference. It was very different from others that we have all watched.