Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #9

[SkipperKey3]

Same here. We're missing information to make possible scenarios make sense. My current thought is that something went from a comfortable setting with a known person....to non-consensual setting with known person

jmo

That is a possibility, because we don't really have any evidence that it didn't happen that way. That's not the way I'm leaning, but I can't logically disprove it, since we know so little.

 

[minazoe]

getting to this a little late, catching up..I find the detail about a nearby pig farm, interesting.

so many threads already! I think the fact that she may have gone back home is throwing this into the realm of "known abductor" possibilities.

someone who may have known in advance she was alone in that house.

we also have a notable murder of two girls near a pig farm in Indiana, so I am raising an eyebrow on that coincidence. ( also the snapchat is a shared detail) how strange..

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I don't think it's odd that they are not finding clues, serial killers improve with practice.

MOO

 

[jashrema]

Quote from AnnoCatuli (I can't quote/reply to this as it is in closed thread so I brought it over)

"The latest PC and the complete lack of urgency from LE seemed striking to me. I would agree with most that 85% of it was them patting themselves on the back. We get you are working hard but you cannot say in one breath that you want/need the public's help, yet give us no relevant facts, time line, etc. It is like a math teacher expecting you to answer an equation correctly when you can only see half of it. So this leads to everyone over trying and over thinking which than creates rumors and questions which they seemed now annoyed of. I cannot recall the statement specifically but LE at one point seem to imply that the public and media simply want details of the investigation...yes we do but to help not because we find this amusing. This is a tragic story regardless of what happened. I am all for protecting a case in court but at what expense and what could you potentially lose in the process of sharing nothing of substance?"

YES! YES! YES! THIS!

"I hope I am wrong but LE seems a bit lost to me. The PC seemed like complete amateur hour with the written word for word statements to being a bit unsure and confused on how to answer some questions. If I am LE going into a PC, you will walk through all the logical questions that will be asked and be versed and well spoken in your answers. The long pause when asking if the public was in danger REALLY threw me off. That would be one of the first questions that likely would be discussed amongst LE before the PC. When you come off as unsure, taken back, or lost in how you want the answer a question...that is not a tactic that is simply lack of prep."

YES! TOTALLY AGREE!

I am appalled at that so-called PC. Are they serious? Not releasing a timeline is doing Mollie no favors IMO. Imagine if you were passing thru town at the EXACT time that LE has said they have narrowed down the time to when she was taken. You would THINK then..you would think of everything you saw, heard, etc. at that time. You could be the person that saw something. Now, imagine you were passing thru, heard vaguely that some girl went missing in the town you were in, but no further details, particularly the time. You would think, "Oh, that's awful," and then go about your business and life, never sharing any info. You are not invested. Lack of information distances you from identifying with the crime.
How can they pat themselves on the back when their one and only goal at this time (finding Mollie) has NOT been achieved? I don't care how many tips they have to sift thru. That's their job. From the local sheriff and BCI waiting 6 days to call in the Feds and get cell phone/fitbit info to this cluster of a PC, I am appalled and very sad for Mollie and her family.

 

[BRRI]

Are there pictures from the presser yesterday? Was her family there? Sorry if I’ve missed it, the last thread went so fast

 

[newmember]

I am curious as to when her father made it back to Iowa from California. First, let me say I am NOT discussing this to cast any suspicion on him. I was just curious as to when he ended up in the area because it is a long journey from CA to IA (ie, you aren't just packing up the car and driving a few hours), and, several articles mention him putting up flyers, etc. pretty soon after the alarm bells were raised that she was missing- this article implies he was in Iowa on the 20th (Father of missing Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts wants help, not sympathy), although of course, it could be unclear writing.

"Mollie Tibbetts moved there from Oakland in 2008 with her mother and two brothers while her father stayed in San Francisco, where he works today. Rob Tibbetts lives in Fresno, but has an apartment in Lafayette, where he stays during the work week."

This seems to imply he is full time in California- please correct me if I am wrong. The first hint that she was missing came on the 19th from her coworkers- in order for him to be there hanging flyers on the 20th, he would have had to hear she didn't show up to work, and then head straight for a flight that night sometime.

Or, was he already in Iowa? And why?

Again, I am NOT casting suspicion on him, but maybe he does know more about who was around on the night of the 18th or what she was up to than I was originally considering, given I thought he was in CA.

All JMO and thoughts, of course.

agreed very much, i found this interesting too for a few reasons:

-while i totally think its normal to talk to your dad on the phone for 3 hours, 3 hours is a long conversation to have with anyone - your bff, a parent, bf etc. makes me think either they had a lot to catch up on/maybe hadnt talked in a bit (in which case normal) or there was something bugging her/someone or something new in her life she shared w her dad- maybe it didnt come off as a a huge red flag to him on the phone but later with the connection of her being MIA since dinner the night before & not at work prompted him to fly out ASAP.

-i actually dont find mollie being a no-show for dinner that weird (at least without knowing exactly what her and her mom texted). i come from a family of 6 kids and some of us went away for college, some went to our state schools so our summer living arrangements always varied - either at home but being gone as much as possible, on campus for summer programs, living w friends who stayed on state campus - all rooted in wanting some independence after being away for a few semesters. we had more than a few times times where some us didnt show for dinner or some other casual family activity (its not like this dinner was a party or anything special). my parents were totally normal (i think over protective hah) but when someone didnt show, it didnt necessarily cause a freak out. depending on which kid/when we last spoke to them, it would usually range from my mom taking on the attitude of "well guess they are going hungry tonight, kitchen is closed now" to her sometimes worrying/call & texting incessantly. however, my siblings always turned up (as far as i can remember) by at least very late that night. so maybe mollies mom did think it was weird she didnt show for dinner but was only worried at that point - it could have even been a topic at the dinner table like mom saying to her brothers "did you talk to her or just text her? did she sound sad/upset recently? are the dogs behaving? when is her paper due/final exam?" its not like mollie didnt come for dinner and she then didnt see her for 3 days - maybe by the time things were in motion the next morning (re the car and absent at work), her mom escalated from worried to panicked and relayed that to her dad thursday, prompting him to fly out super fast.

 

[Harmony 2]

Mollie Tibbetts gets far more coverage than other missing Iowans. Is media bias to blame?

 

[Harmony 2]

Mollie Tibbetts was supposed to attend boyfriend's brother's wedding in Dominican Republic, brother says

 

[Bluetick40]

There are so many posts, I haven't been able to read them all. Please excuse me if this is redundant! Are either of these things related to Mollie's case or are they even related to each other? Opinion only, of course!

The guy taking pics of Dubuque joggers?
The guy who tried to grab a Dubuque jogger but she fought him off?

IMHO

 

[Harmony 2]

Mollie Tibbetts, what we know so far

 

[ptandj]

Mollie Tibbetts gets far more coverage than other missing Iowans. Is media bias to blame?

I’m glad this is being discussed.

 

[Mica]

Are there pictures from the presser yesterday? Was her family there? Sorry if I’ve missed it, the last thread went so fast

Yes there are photos from the presser and Molly’s family was there.

Page down at link to photos.

Mollie Tibbetts search: Boyfriend's brother says scrutiny directed at his family unwarranted

 

[ptandj]

There are so many posts, I haven't been able to read them all. Please excuse me if this is redundant! Are either of these things related to Mollie's case or are they even related to each other? Opinion only, of course!

The guy taking pics of Dubuque joggers?
The guy who tried to grab a Dubuque jogger but she fought him off?

IMHO

One of those was in Pella, not Dubuque

 

[PommyMommy]

Thanks.

It's still interesting to me if he got on a plane that quickly that he was there on the 20th. I know it's alarming to hear your daughter didn't show up to work, but I don't think my parents would immediately hop on a cross country flight unless they had another reason to be very concerned to hear that news. Getting from the Bay Area to Brooklyn, IA, isn't really an easy trip, either. You probably need to connect, and/or then rent a car/get a ride to Brooklyn.

Given that she talked to her dad so much, and that he came right away, and that he keeps saying stuff about who was in town or coming forward with clues, I'm hoping he has more information than is able to be shared right now. Or, maybe he's just a very concerned father who hopped on a plane immediately after hearing that. Again, we know very little about how their family operated, but she did seem quite close with her father.

A missing person report was filed in his daughter's disappearance on the 19th. It wasn't just that she didn't show up for work, but that nobody had seen or heard from her - she didn't show up for dinner or respond to texts and phone calls on Thursday from her brother, her boyfriend and her mother. It appears to me that her father just knew something was terribly wrong and responded accordingly.

 

[JC40]

'She hated to be sad and hated others to be sad': Brotherly love for missing sister.


'She hated to be sad and hated others to be sad': Brotherly love for missing sister

 

[Inthedetails]

There are so many posts, I haven't been able to read them all. Please excuse me if this is redundant! Are either of these things related to Mollie's case or are they even related to each other? Opinion only, of course!

The guy taking pics of Dubuque joggers?
The guy who tried to grab a Dubuque jogger but she fought him off?

IMHO

Photographing joggers incident in Pella
Harassment of jogger in Dubuque
Mollie's disappearance in Brooklyn

Three different cities, three different m.o.s.

I don't think they are related (other than the incidents are all against females who jog....but that's more systemic rather than specific, imo), but that is just my opinion, not a confirmed fact.

jmo

 

[ptandj]

A missing person report was filed in his daughter's disappearance on the 19th. It wasn't just that she didn't show up for work, but that nobody had seen or heard from her - she didn't show up for dinner or respond to texts and phone calls on Thursday from her brother, her boyfriend and her mother. It appears to me that he just knew something was terribly wrong and responded accordingly.

I agree. They’ve talked about how out of character it was for her. People would be all upset if he hadn’t flown out immediately too.

 

[Muffin0326]

Here is what I find most interesting. 1) The dogs were still in the basement which is where she would put them when she left the house. If she was randomly abducted while at home, they would have been up and about. 2) It sounded like she probably intended to go to her Moms for dinner but never made it or called for a ride.

That kind of gives me the impression that a known person was at or came to the house and when she said she had to leave they offered her a ride. She put the dogs in the basement, and went "willingly" with said person and left her things because she was just going to her Moms and back but obviously this person took her somewhere else...

Just a thought.

 

[Purplepixii]

Mollie Tibbetts search: Boyfriend's brother says scrutiny directed at his family unwarranted

Well unless it's just bad reporting (again) there's a little nugget that's slipped out & is the closest we have to timeline confirmation in that link, BBM:

"Neighbor Dave Collum, a retired maintenance director for the school district, said he was interviewed by investigators who told him that data from Tibbetts' Fitbit showed she jogged past his home that evening and made it home from the run safely. He said investigators told him she was doing homework on her computer later that evening."

 

[SkipperKey3]

There are so many posts, I haven't been able to read them all. Please excuse me if this is redundant! Are either of these things related to Mollie's case or are they even related to each other? Opinion only, of course!

The guy taking pics of Dubuque joggers?
The guy who tried to grab a Dubuque jogger but she fought him off?

IMHO

The guy taking pics was in Pella, not Dubuque, and is most likely not related to this case. I believe he has turned himself in.

 

[ptandj]

Gentle suggestion to check the media thread to see if somebody has already posted an article. Seeing a ton of duplicates.

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