Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #34

[Seattle1]

If you look at the map of the area where he was seen following her (Middle and Boundary Streets), 385 where her body was found is is just off to the right. When he left her, he may have headed back into the same direction and was seen on camera again after she was dead. What makes me think this is the time frame the arrest warrant shows 7:45 to 8:28. 8:28 is a precise number, so something gives them that time.
I imagine they also have his cellphone pings that put him in the area. They probably confronted him with so much digital evidence against him that he knew they had him.

Thanks for the visual. I finally see that streets Middle and Boundary joining 385th (not to scale) placed Mollie closer to her Mum's than DJ house.

 

[SuperTmo]

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Do you think he’s a fan? Sounds like his story to me.



Hero Therapy #9 - The Hulk's Blackouts


Or a fan a similar type movie?

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No. “I blacked out” is very common for people like this to say. IMO

 

[tokyorose]

MSM asking if he was mentally ill

Missing Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts found dead, undocumented immigrant confesses

There are many people who deny the existence of evil... it just doesn't fit in to their world view, so they have to develop other theoretical constructs to reconcile behavior that doesn't fit with what they believe about the nature of man.

 

[Dushi]

I’ve been thinking about this a lot as all of you have. I think back to many of the theories that have been thrown out there. Looking back, hindsight could be 20/20 but I think there are far too many coincidences.

1.) It seems like CR had at the very least many acquaintances with Mollie. He could have in fact known that she would be alone that night. This is the only area where I think it could have been a coincidence be attacked her on this night. I do wonder if he had harassed her in the past and she had let someone know. It wasn’t that long ago that RT said he believed it was someone she knew had her and they were in over her head. I think those statements are close to when LE had gotten hold of the video footage.

2.) The leak about the perp attending the vigil and hiding in plain sight. This appears to be true now.

I think when we look back at some of the things said at the press conferences they add up and make sense as to who the perp was and what happened to Mollie.

I’m sad about the outcome but glad the case won’t go cold and the family will never have any answers.

I haven't been here since right after the PC so things could have changed, but I recall hearing LE say They did not know if there was a connection between Mollie and CR

He is older than she was , they may have some remote connections with the same people. But it is not clear to me that they knew each other.

JMO

 

[boomburger]

He says he ran alongside Mollie; how far did he run with Mollie? If it was a far distance; then it might make his account dubious.

Especially so considering he claims to have put her in the trunk of his car. If he chased her for a couple hundred metres there would be ample time for a witness to see her being dragged/carried away to the car. Unless that stretch of road didnt see cars for minutes on end.

 

[Veracity]

I am not convinced he got out of the car and attacked her. Maybe it was his favorite game being GrandTheft Auto on his FACEBOOK homepage. Did LE impound his car? They had asked for anyone to let them know if someone had recent car repair during one of the PCs.

One of the followup articles yesterday mentioned how LE went to the farm where he worked -

I am still having a hard time processing how dairy farm work is seasonal. I recall where I was raised seasonal was during the summer. Maybe someone can help me understand better how a dairy farm would need seasonal workers?

When LE went to the location the article mentioned most of the other workers only spoke Spanish. This opened a different question -

Obviously his girlfriend could speak English and could understand and read the posters about Mollie. I wonder if LE had folks on their team who were bi-lingual? The Clearinghouses are all in English. I wonder if there should a translated link for Spanish?

 

[boomburger]

He is older than she was , they may have some remote connections with the same people.

CR's girlfriend shared a class with Mollie at school, and were also friends on facebook. Interestingly, the girlfriend was also friends with Mollie's brothers on Facebook too. Not a stretch at all to think they at the very least knew of each other, as acquaintances.

 

[Icechick]

His story doesnt make sense. If he struck her dead after she threatened to call the police wouldnt it make more sense for him to have just left her there/dragged her off the road and just driven away? Its far more likely he knocked her out, took her to the corn fields to sexually assault her and then cover up her body.

If he did not SA Mollie I will be surprised. His photos scream little man syndrome and narcissism at its fullest.
I’m guessing he had been fixated on her for a long time and waiting for his chance to “show her” knowing he never could or would have a chance with beautiful, smart, caring, world- at-her fingertips Mollie.
I pray it happened quickly and he got spooked and didn’t have the chance.

 

[agilbe]

Unfortunately for him; he might get caught up in his own lies; the contradictions will catch him out.

This brings up something I have been thinking about. I wonder how good his English is. He is from a very small village in Mexico, it makes Brooklyn look like a metropolis (a little more than 400 people). Spanish differs from region to region. Common words can mean two different things depending on where you come from. I would hate for something like that to impact the trial in a negative way. There needs to be swift justice for Mollie and complete closure for her family. JMO

 

[Seattle1]

link for graphic

Thread is open for posting...

Coffee graphic is awesome!

 

[rebel123]

Link please

A link for what? It could be what might of happened. So no link.

 

[Bravo]

I'm not convinced killer and Mollie had any dialogue at all. I just don't believe him. It's like he is throwing the onus on Mollie. "She made me mad" "I feared she was going to call police" yadayadayada............I think he came upon her, Mollie has her earbuds in and unaware. He disables her quickly and puts her in the trunk. Then the cornfield.......

 

[Gardenista]

This brings up something I have been thinking about. I wonder how good his English is. He is from a very small village in Mexico, it makes Brooklyn look like a metropolis (a little more than 400 people). Spanish differs from region to region. Common words can mean two different things depending on where you come from. I would hate for something like that to impact the trial in a negative way. There needs to be swift justice for Mollie and complete closure for her family. JMO

They used an interpreter.

 

[TeaTime]

Mollie couldn't call 911 fast enough - she was being chased! One must turn phone on, click or slide, enter pass code, select phone pad and dial - all of which takes precious seconds that allowed him to overcome her.

 

[Veracity]

It is his story; LE are buying it at the moment; but LE will find big holes in it soon enough; as more evidence is gathered. Some things already don't add up.

SO RIGHT! Thank you Rebel! I wonder what the ME will find. I also have wondered something -

If he used his car to run her down, that is a different kind of homicide from what he is currently charged isn't it?

Anyone know when he is due in court today? Will it be televised?

 

[Inthedetails]

He was hunting for a victim, he is a predator. He wasn't trying to talk to her. He stalked her, chased her down, kidnapped her and murdered her. It had NOTHING to do with him being mad, scared or whatever because she was going to call the police. He intended to do exactly what he did. He is a low life criminal who thought that he could kill her, rape her (likely) dump her in a corn field and no one would try too hard to find out who did it - like back home in his country where women are not valued.

There are probably other victims but they may also be illegally in the country and are therefore not missed or didn't report what he has done. I don't for one minute believe that he committed his first crime at age 24 and it was was kidnapping and murder. He's been preying on people his whole life. Bet on it.

Predators are born predators and are always on the prowl for victims.

I totally agree. This scenario has happened to me as well - far more than once. The flirty behavior (which is usually crude and blunt, not flirty) instantly turns mean and insulting when rebuffed.

I don't doubt that the CR would've hurt Mollie even if she remained "kind" while he went after her that day, however. His intentions were never good and he used whatever tactics that were most efficient in the moment.

Nobody with good intentions circles around a lone woman jogging and then gets out of his car on an isolated stretch. No matter how she reacted, he was going to hurt her.

jmopinion

 

[rebel123]

Who said LE is buying it?

LE repeated his statement at the press conference. That includes the "I blacked out" nonsense. What is important is that they tied the perp to Mollie, and then tied the perp to where her body was found. He knew where she was set to rest. I assume forensics will be able to get some of his DNA under her fingernails and whatever else. What his statement says will most definitely not be what the DA says what happened when this comes to trial.

It's in the arrest warrant; you need to read the rest of my post. Thanks in advance.

 

[fraudqueen]

He was hunting for a victim, he is a predator. He wasn't trying to talk to her. He stalked her, chased her down, kidnapped her and murdered her. It had NOTHING to do with him being mad, scared or whatever because she was going to call the police. He intended to do exactly what he did. He is a low life criminal who thought that he could kill her, rape her (likely) dump her in a corn field and no one would try too hard to find out who did it - like back home in his country where women are not valued.

There are probably other victims but they may also be illegally in the country and are therefore not missed or didn't report what he has done. I don't for one minute believe that he committed his first crime at age 24 and it was was kidnapping and murder. He's been preying on people his whole life. Bet on it.

Predators are born predators and are always on the prowl for victims.

Agree. I don't believe this was his first rodeo. This type of predator escalates in their crimes.

 

[katydid23]

I've heard of people stealing or making up socials for their job applications, but what I don't understand is how these background checks wouldn't raise a flag if the social belongs to a dead person. I could see the farm hiring him on a probationary basis while they await a background check, but I'm wondering why the background check wouldn't show that a person is deceased or currently employed on the other side of the country or 52 years older and of a completely different ethnicity. You would think these background check services would be smarter than that.

Someone was using my social security number for a few years. I had to argue with the IRS because they accused me of not reporting income from a packing plant in Oregon. I lived in Southern Cali and was in my 50's, and was a SAHM. It took a few years to straighten out. But the IRS kept sending me letters about 'unreported income'---very frustrating.

 

[Bravo]

No. “I blacked out” is very common for people like this to say. IMO

What no fog! No Nanny? No ninjas! lol