Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #38

[Mom24]

I do not know what the farm has for a transportation fleet but usually a big tanker comes and extracts the milk at certain times during the day. The dairy farm people I know do not have refridgerated truck but use pick-ups and ATV's to run the farm. If a farm hand needs to run to town and do not have their own vehicle the farm owner might let them use one of the farm vehicles. Also the license plates say farm right on them, I think they get a cheaper rate but can not remember.

Yes most dairy farms don't have the large refrigerated trucks, they sell their milk to a company who comes and picks it up.

 

[Mom24]

JMO
Catching up and no legal experience but found this Arrest Warrant so interesting because it is a very specific timeframe and thinking LE must know her exact attack time and exact death time because of the Fitbit giving heartrate beats. We know Mollie jogged with her cell phone in an armband and she likely had her Fitbit on.

It would be obvious from the Fitbit info the pulse rate when her pulse would suddenly go through the roof. Then when her heartbeat stopped altogether that is one way LE could know the exact time of death.

This is the first case where I have seen such a specific timeframe on the charges down to the minute.
The Fitbit info is the only way I can figure how LE knew this exact timeframe of the beginning of the attack and her ultimate death down to the minute.

On July 18, the attack began at 7:45 p.m. and the time of death was 8:28 p.m.

http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/082118+DCI+Arrest.pdf

I feel the same way. I believe that the abduction happened at 7:45 and she was deceased by 8:28 pm.

 

[TL4S]

JMO
Catching up and no legal experience but found this Arrest Warrant so interesting because it is a very specific timeframe and thinking LE must know her exact attack time and exact death time because of the Fitbit giving heartrate beats. We know Mollie jogged with her cell phone in an armband and she likely had her Fitbit on.

It would be obvious from the Fitbit info the pulse rate when her pulse would suddenly go through the roof. Then when her heartbeat stopped altogether that is one way LE could know the exact time of death.

This is the first case where I have seen such a specific timeframe on the charges down to the minute.
The Fitbit info is the only way I can figure how LE knew this exact timeframe of the beginning of the attack and her ultimate death down to the minute.

On July 18, the attack began at 7:45 p.m. and the time of death was 8:28 p.m.

This is probably way off, but I wonder if the same camera that caught MT jogging with black malibu following her also caught black malibu coming back and never saw MT again. 385 would be a route she'd likely have to backtrack on. LE has never stated this, of course, JMO (more like an idea).

 

[RavenCC2020]

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[Deleted member 718]

However, I do see your point. Rest assured that video of CR's car turning to follow MT should (hopefully) be enough proof of premeditation to convict CR for Murder 1 on the State level. If that falls through...

Al Hoffman, agree very much. I snipped your post to this part. I think LE has a lot more than him turning his car to follow her. CR could have said he was just riding around listening to Narcocorridos songs while looking for a friend's house. I bet the farm LE has a digital trail of every move he's made before and after the fact. All his internet history, cell data, gps locations etc.

"The footage showed her running through an area east of Brooklyn and a car moving close to her. The black Chevy Malibu drove back and forth numerous times before it just started following her, according to an affidavit."

Mollie Tibbetts case mystified police until a security camera offered a key clue

 

[MsBetsy]

You are absolutely right Judge and this is the infuriating part and a huge factor in what is happening today here. The media themselves pick and choose which stories are told. Their choices are based on what is going to get the most press and it is made soley by what with provide them the most drama and up their bottom line. In the end they are basically creating the dialogue that goes on every day therefore MAKING the news rather then reporting on current events. Then when they focus exclusively on one case or one viewpoint, people of different backgrounds, race, religion whatever it is feel offended. The next story is the story from the offended point of view and sadly all Americans are forgetting the part that it was the media that started the controversy to begin with. It really is an ugly truth about the modern day media. I think most people have empathy for all our fellow Americans when they are harmed, killed what have you but the media doesn't wish to cover it that way because it doesn't further their bottom line.

I agree with you, judge and Raven. Talk about hypocritical, what kind of audience is the author speaking to? Only the well educated? "Pulsing artery of misogyny that oxygenated the patriarchal machine?" In it's venal calcululus? Huh? What immigrant is going to understand that?

 

[Angie622]

For me and probably for others who fell head over heels into this case, it was the light that was Mollie. I have a Mollie in my life, a beautiful soon to be Daughter in Law. When she enters the room, it is just brighter. There is a naivety and innocence that I remember having before the real world toughened me up. We did get to know Mollie through her SM and her family. I feel that I was watching her grow up as I read through her FB and Twitter. We were seeing her political views develop, her relationship with her boyfriend deepen. So, for me it wasn’t that she was a pretty face, it was something deeper that tugged at my heart. It was the mother, daughter, sister and wife in me. She seemed like she was going to light the world on fire.

I agree Crystal. I have a Mollie, too: young, smart, beautiful, independent, and growing into a strong young woman with so much to offer the world. And it breaks my heart and terrifies me that she lives in a world where she has to always be on the lookout for predators.

 

[The Farm]

Well this morning while I was out I decided to visit a gun store in my town. I will be starting the process of gun ownership in my old age. I should have done it years ago.

 

[Jim G]

7:45 to 8:28. Clockwork finality. Chilling. But on the other hand, it starts my blood and breath roaring for justice.

 

[Tricia]

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC

IF YOU POST CONTAINS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING THEN IT IS OFF TOPIC

THE WALL
IMMIGRATION
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
RACIST
MUSLIM

I AM SURE THERE ARE MORE BUT I HOPE YOU GET MY POINT.

TIMEOUTS WILL BE ISSUED FOR THE NEXT PERSON AND EVERYONE THEREAFTER WHO GOES OFF TOPIC.

IT'S CRAZY HOW MUCH TIME OUR MODS USE UP CLEANING UP MOLLIE'S THREAD.

WE ARE PUTTING A STOP TO IT NOW!

I'M DONE YELLING!

Love,
Tricia

 

[whiskers]

Piggybacking off my post last night, the local schools would have let him attend. But you are correct, at the age he arrived, he was probably ready to work. So many of these midwest schools are made up of local kids and migrants. It's not all just white midwestern kids like some may think. And who knows, he may be older than 24 and decided to drop out back when he was in Mexico.

Also, I wonder if this was rage that escalated. Rage from that day, but also from following her over the span of the summer. It's possible he followed and cat called her on different occasions before July 18. Maybe she didn't tell anyone about it thinking it was no big deal. Perhaps Dalton and her family know he was creepy before. That may come out later at a trial. I def. think before this day in July he'd not only observed her jogging, but also tried to engage her in some way.

 

[kkdj]

So, CR came to live with his uncle when he was 16 to make money. Now I do wonder if he was actually running from crimes he had committed in Mexico.
I had originally assumed his family all moved to the US together. Now I realize he moved on his own.

 

[Mom24]

7:45 to 8:28. Clockwork finality. Chilling. But on the other hand, it starts my blood and breath roaring for justice.

My heart dropped, thudded to the ground, when I saw the time. Even though you know it's foolish to think someone is alive, you remember all the others who were found alive, some years later, and so you hope. And then you find that this vital young person who was just coming into her own was gone so quickly and just makes you realize what a monster CR is.

 

[RavenCC2020]

I saw a photo in the DM and the little girl was sitting quietly on her mom’s lap. That photo broke my heart. The mom looked shell shocked and all I could think was they did not do the crime, but they will suffer. This man not only caused devastation and loss to Mollie’s family, boyfriend and friends lives, he is also responsible for bringing pain to his employer, the whole town of Brooklyn and his own child. I hope the child will have a loving and supportive environment. I hope her mom will keep her away from the courtroom in the future.

Agreed. The ripple effect of this crime is long reaching. I feel sad for them both but more so his little daughter. She is the one who will grow up without a father and also knowing what he did. That is an enormous burden to place on an innocent little child. His gf is certainly not guilty of his crime but for her there is still time ahead to get her life back on track. In the future she can possibly meet and marry a good man and live a happy life which hopefully can provide her daughter with the stability of having a dad in her life. Still even in the best of circumstances with stepparents that care children still have feelings for their biological parent. Hopefully given her young age she will not remember much of any of this. I hope her mom protects her from this fallout. I think her decision to take her to court was a mistake that she will not soon forget. Lesson learned hopefully. I don't envy the cross she is going to have to bear but I do know if it were me one of the first things I would do is move my daughter away and start somewhere new. This heavy cloud over their heads is not going away any time soon and it's unfair to expect her child to have to deal with the gossip and whispering as well as judgement of her playmates as they grow together.

 

[Sanz]

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[cluciano63]

I don't want a CR living in my neighborhood

I don’t want anyone who might kill another person nearby...but that might be any of my current neighbors, who knows? A very nasty aggressive man lives two doors down from me...signs of moving at that apartment today, am crossing my fingers...

 

[Chichi baby]

My heart dropped, thudded to the ground, when I saw the time. Even though you know it's foolish to think someone is alive, you remember all the others who were found alive, some years later, and so you hope. And then you find that this vital young person who was just coming into her own was gone so quickly and just makes you realize what a monster CR is.

And its sad to think she was already deceased before anyone knew she was missing. RIP poor Mollie.

 

[TL4S]

Laying out another option (and probably the least likely of all.). My mind has to eliminate all possibilities...

Anyway, what if LE's map really was areas that MT left a digital footprint (df). Of those, some of the locations had cameras, so they wanted to see what was happening in and around those digital signal times. The 5-10pm timeframe could be to keep things vague for people who don't remember exactly what time they were at those locations, or for some other reason LE found important.

Anyway, CR follows MT east on 385, past the houses, then grabs her (maybe on her way back even, and facing her) closer to the end of 385 (northern dot on LE map)(df). Then he turns back west (maybe because he doesn't know the back roads around there). He could have taken various routes towards V18, maybe by the car wash (df). Then he went south past the truck stop (df) and on down, heading to the V21 and 430 dot and so on.

The camera caught him following her at 7:45 near highlighted area, then again at 8:28 heading back with her in trunk.

Is this only one notch above rabid racoons?

 

[gillglock]

He could have parked ahead of her gotten out and asked for her help

He may have had a familiar enough face not to alarm Mollie

Or someone could have been driving when he ran beside her.

 

[kkdj]

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