IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #39

[ACG2x]

After seeing the stories about Mollie's memorial service, I am even more firmly convinced that Rob is on some sort of path to sainthood. I am positive he's obviously crushed inside but has been so dignified throughout this whole ordeal. He is doing exactly what his daughter would want him to do and for him to put aside his personal loss and do that takes one hell of a man. I've said it numerous times on here but will say it again in case anyone from Mollie's family ever reads this - Mr. Tibbetts, I salute you.

At this point, the only acceptable outcome is for the killer (what he should be referred to as - not Christian, not CR, what he is; he gave up the right to be called by name when he took Mollie) to spend the rest of his life in the US prison system in Iowa. Yes Iowans will have to pay to feed and house him but there is no chance this will ever happen again by his hand. To me it's a small price to pay for that comfort. He committed the offense here and thus should stand trial and be punished here. The sooner we can get that done with the quicker we can stop all the outlandish interviews from his clown lawyer trying to subvert the fact that his client murdered an innocent person.

God willing, let this come to a quick end with the max sentence for the killer. Both Brooklyn and the Tibbetts family deserve it.

 

[kpm]

You and I, the good people of Iowa? This is something to keep an eye on IMO.

Yes it is!

 

[Al Hoffman]

It should be and that was my whole point when I asked her age. Again, is it possible that the possible sex offender registering is in consideration of her age?

No, and not even on the court's radar at this time.

His congress with his baby's moma is likely legal under Iowa law, and of little or no consequence at this time.

The State has a MUCH bigger fish to fry!

 

[EaglesSpeical]

Oh yes I remember this!

I just want to be clear my comment relates to a female attorney defending a male in a case with a young female victim and the optics of that situation. I have found female attorneys to be very capable advocates and adversaries in the courtroom. MOO

 

[spiritkiss]

I am wondering why they impounded two cars? we knew about the black one, I do think I see damage as if something had fallen on it on the passanger front, but why the Nissan...you know they didn't go to get the black car and just happen to hook a Nissan up to the back on the way. it must be related to the crime in some way.

I would believe they would check all vehicles for evidence due to not knowing where he brought her after abduction as well as how many places she was taken before final spot found. She could have been transferred in another vehicle etc.

 

[Trident]

No, and not even on the court's radar at this time.

His congress with his baby's moma is likely legal under Iowa law, and of little or no consequence at this time.

The State has a MUCH bigger fish to fry!

And you know this, how? Or is this just an opinion?

 

[The Farm]

Unreal.....

I will bite my tongue now

Actually surprised I have not bitten my tongue right off yet. I respect the mods but it is hard sometime!!!

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

Check Mr. Frese's FB page. I've got a feeling we'll be on lawyer number 3 soon.

Very professional

 

[kpm]

Actually surprised I have not bitten my tongue right off yet. I respect the mods but it is hard sometime!!!

Have to admit it’s very tough not to say more.

 

[PrairieWind]

A murder defense could easily cost $100,000 to $200,000. Hard to believe his family is preparing to pay that. The attorneys would likely want a substantial retainer just to get started. There could be some civil rights groups pitching in. I also wonder if the Mexican consulate might be pitching in some.

 

[EaglesSpeical]

You and I, the good people of Iowa? This is something to keep an eye on IMO.

Most states require attorneys to do some "pro bono" work (no fee or greatly reduced). Given the high publicity (future name recognition) and potential for book deal etc. might be situation here. Doubt Iowa paying for these attorneys. MOO

 

[TL4S]

I'm wondering, though, if that would have to be considered in a separate court case since IM and her child are wholly unrelated to the case against CR for the death of MT.

However, if IM is confirmed to have been 14-15 years at the time she got pregnant, and CR was 20, that might help show a pattern of behavior.

 

[kpm]

A murder defense could easily cost $100,000 to $200,000. Hard to believe his family is preparing to pay that. The attorneys would likely want a substantial retainer just to get started. There could be some civil rights groups pitching in. I also wonder if the Mexican consulate might be pitching in some.

Spot on!

Strictly MOO, any group that pays for his legal fees makes me sick to my stomach

It’s one thing to do it pro bono, it’s a whole other beast for someone to pay his expenses

 

[Trident]

Most states require attorneys to do some "pro bono" work (no fee or greatly reduced). Given the high publicity (future name recognition) and potential for book deal etc. might be situation here. Doubt Iowa paying for these attorneys. MOO

True. The attorneys I worked for were on a roster, everyone had their turn defending those who couldn't afford counsel. However, one way or another, the state will be paying, the judge, the prosecution, the pittance the jury will make, the courtroom, ad nauseum. Plus more we can't even think of right now.

 

[kpm]

Most states require attorneys to do some "pro bono" work (no fee or greatly reduced). Given the high publicity (future name recognition) and potential for book deal etc. might be situation here. Doubt Iowa paying for these attorneys. MOO

No, they said they were privately hired

 

[Al Hoffman]

This isn't uncommon. You get charged, prelim hearings are set and you need an atty. You call through the yellow pages, get someone who can show on short notice for the prelim hearing knowing that after that you can look around and find a better atty.

There's a vending machine in the Courthouse lobby for this, right next to the shark tank....No, wait, the shark tank IS the vending machine! You puts in your C-note, you sees what you get.

 

[jillycat]

Philip Chism. There was a female attorney, and I won't say any more.
Philip Chism Found Guilty Of First-Degree Murder

From the link:
"Lawyers for Chism are due back in court Wednesday on separate charges. Chism faces charges including attempted murder and assault and battery with a dangerous weapon stemming from an attack on a state Department of Youth Services worker while he was awaiting trial.

Chism had been in a youth detention facility in Boston in June 2014 when prosecutors said he followed a worker into a locker room and choked and beat her before other workers intervened. The worker suffered injuries to her face, jaw, neck and back."

This is how bold these kinds of predators are and I will not be surprised if Mollie's killer is cut off the same cloth.

 

[MsBetsy]

And you know this, how? Or is this just an opinion?

It's likely legal because there is a good chance she was around age 16 at the time, it happened about 3 years ago and due to the fact that viciously assaulting and murdering someone is what is on their agenda right now. In my opinion, they wouldn't care if she were underage by a year.

 

[EaglesSpeical]

No, they said they were privately hired

okay thanks

 

[spiritkiss]

If what the perp said is true about events then her fitbit should still be on her and should have been still recording info on it until battery died. It should show the moment she passed away and her heart rate of when he approached her etc. If fit bit is gone then that proves he was of sound mind and had a thought process to take and hide, turn off fitbit while he claims he was not remembering what happened before going to the field where she was found. The phone, where is that located? if in fact his story is true it should be at the location that she was first attacked due to her pulling it out of the arm band. If not pulled out of armband yet then it should be on her as well.