IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #41

[zecats]

Legitimate question: Do we know for certain that her mom didn’t check on her? I’m searching through these threads and the media threads, but I’m unable to find it. It doesn’t mean it isn’t there, though!

I mean, we know Mollie’s coworkers reported her when she didn’t call in or come to work.

I’ve seen reports from Dalton Jack, the boyfriend, who says he didn’t realize she was missing until he was contacted by her coworkers. He also said he then contacted her parents and friends, who (he says) hadn’t heard from Mollie since the night before.

But are we just assuming the parents didn’t attempt to contact her at all? Or are they on record stating that?

To be abundantly clear, I’m not questioning the parents or their actions at all. They are victims, too.

I’m just asking if it’s known as a fact that they didn’t check in on her. (I’m not asking whether or not they called police.) I believe they could have and likely might have, and it seems reasonable that they were worried about her.

Apologies if this has been answered already. This thread moves at lightning speed, and the substantial news coverage sometimes makes it even more challenging to find specific info! Thanks for any help answering this.

I'm thinking that we would know if her mom texted her any more that evening. We've been given the info that her brother texted her the next morning and that her boyfriend did as well (or Snapchat). We've also learned about the text between her mom Mollie about brats. I find it hard to believe that wouldn't have come up though during all the weeks she was missing. Mom let some info go without LE confirming anything, so again, I think she would have mentioned it. jmo

 

[Crystal Regan]

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Its really not that important! Some people prefer to look only at the facts, and not just how a reporter interprets statements in an article. There is no evidence that Mollie ever stated " yes, I will be home for dinner." That's all. I'm not sure why it's so important to you. What exactly is your point and how is it helping to determine what happened in this case? Maybe if you explain your reasoning behind it people will understand. Restating what someone wrote in an article isn't helping anyone to understand what you are trying to get at.

I put dinner in the microwave if my grown kids don’t make it home in time to eat with us. May be the same type of situation. I get up in the morning and it looks like a pack of wolves has attacked the kitchen.

 

[MsBetsy]

Well, facts, ideally, would inform any opinions or speculation someone might have. To ignore facts isn’t particularly helpful, imo. This is a fact-based forum, after all.

Generally, we aren’t encouraged to entertain unsubstantiated rumor or grand hypotheticals that lack some sort of fact-based source. We are encouraged to state opinions as opinions so they’re not confused for assertions of fact.

I’m sorry if I’m misunderstanding your point. Lol. Maybe I’m agreeing with you?

It sounds like you are! My only concern is when there is so much speculation, based on something that we don't know is fact, and rumors start to form, and stories go a bit wild. There was a little bit of that many threads ago. Some very creative stories about what " may" have happened to Mollie. Jmo

 

[Crystal Regan]

A few things for those interested. Anything I should add?

1) My map of key locations.
2) Cell Phone Towers
3) LE's points of interest map
4) Affidavit
5) Malibu and Nissan towed photo

I am impressed with the number of towers.

 

[kpm]

Actually Mollie did confirm she was coming for dinner:

"Calderwood said she had exchanged several text messages with her daughter that afternoon.

“She had sent me a shopping list for a dessert she wanted to make and take to work,” she said. “I texted her that I got the ingredients and asked if she was coming home for dinner.”

According to Calderwood, Tibbetts said she would be home and asked what they were having. “Brats,” she replied. “Ok,” Tibbetts responded.

But dinner came and went, Calderwood said, and Tibbetts didn’t come home."

Disappearance of University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts remains a mystery

At the very least her Mom believed she would be home for dinner.

ETA: That’s not to say college kids stick to what they say or that it raises any red flags

 

[Crystal Regan]

I still think it would look creepy if his intention was to pickup teenage girls between the ages of 16-18.

I believe he make have been cruising. Do kids still do that? It was a big thing when I was a teen in the eighties.

 

[kpm]

A few things for those interested. Anything I should add?

1) My map of key locations.
2) Cell Phone Towers
3) LE's points of interest map
4) Affidavit
5) Malibu and Nissan towed photo

Thanks, really helps put things into perspective

 

[claire_parker]

A few things for those interested. Anything I should add?

1) My map of key locations. (Pig Farm is the green circle at the bottom - forgot to label)
2) Cell Phone Towers
3) LE's points of interest map
4) Affidavit
5) Malibu and Nissan towed photo

Maybe

A few things for those interested. Anything I should add?

1) My map of key locations. (Pig Farm is the green circle at the bottom - forgot to label)
2) Cell Phone Towers
3) LE's points of interest map
4) Affidavit
5) Malibu and Nissan towed photo

Maybe he was driving around in the Nissan after the crime because he didn't want to get noticed or get stopped for some reason in the black car

 

[kpm]

Thanks, really helps put things into perspective

Very curious about who owns the Nissan, it could just be they towed two cars in but I doubt it

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Actually Mollie did confirm she was coming for dinner:

"Calderwood said she had exchanged several text messages with her daughter that afternoon.

“She had sent me a shopping list for a dessert she wanted to make and take to work,” she said. “I texted her that I got the ingredients and asked if she was coming home for dinner.”

According to Calderwood, Tibbetts said she would be home and asked what they were having. “Brats,” she replied. “Ok,” Tibbetts responded.

But dinner came and went, Calderwood said, and Tibbetts didn’t come home."

Disappearance of University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts remains a mystery

This makes sense. Thank you!

 

[Seattle1]

<modsnip> from what we have come to learn of Mollie, she definitely did not seem racist or snobbish in any way. Instead of asking why Mollie would ever know an immigrant farm worker, I think we could just as easily ask, why wouldn't she? They co-existed in the same small physical area for several years, so it seems likely, at least to me, that they would have encountered each other by happenstance on occasion, if not by plan. And I don't get that Mollie would automatically assume an evil ulterior motive and shun a hello or smile from someone, just because they don't look exactly like her. JMO

Completely agree!
And Wow, if taking the position of "why would a college student know a dairy laborer," the same could be said about why would Mollie know a "construction laborer" (i.e, DJ). From what I recall, not even his employer knew CR was undocumented until arrested. MOO

 

[Followfacts]

I never said it was the right way, it’s just how I do it.

And after this incident I will be even more vigilant when I think someone is supposed to be somewhere and doesn’t show up, but that’s how I am.

I don’t tell someone I’ll be over and then never just show up, I know lots of people are like that though.

And I can’t find any article yet that says the dessert was for Friday, only this article, stating it was for work.

Disappearance of University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts remains a mystery

I think one of her coworkers said that one of the daycare kids had a birthday and that Mollie wanted to bring it on Friday to celebrate the child’s birthday.

 

[MsBetsy]

This makes sense. Thank you!

I think she had every intention of going to dinner, picking up the car, collecting the ingredients from her mom, and possibly grabbing one of the red shirts for the trip the next day. That may very well be where she was headed when she was attacked. Jmo

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

It sounds like you are! My only concern is when there is so much speculation, based on something that we don't know is fact, and rumors start to form, and stories go a bit wild. There was a little bit of that many threads ago. Some very creative stories about what " may" have happened to Mollie. Jmo

Ha! OK. I hear ya loud and clear now. Thank you!

 

[Warwick7]

I've read this a couple of times on WS and don't know where it comes from that MT was going to mom's?

Everything I've read states that it wasn't till the following morning when MT didn't show up for work that staff contacted her boy friend who then called her family. It was after family going to the house where she was staying and not finding MT that police were called.

If mom was expecting MT the previous night and didn't arrive wouldn't mom have tried to determine why she hadn't?

I'm sure her mother lives with everday.
Sad...

 

[kpm]

I think she had every intention of going to dinner, picking up the car, collecting the ingredients from her mom, and possibly grabbing one of the red shirts for the trip the next day. That may very well be where she was headed when she was attacked. Jmo

I think so too!

Do we know if they ever found a red shirt at DJ’s ?

I know she could have gotten it in the morning but I wonder

 

[SteveP]

Completely agree!
And Wow, if taking the position of "why would a college student know a dairy laborer", the same could be said about why would Mollie know a construction laborer (i.e, DJ). From what I recall, not even his employer knew CR was undocumented until arrested. MOO

Yes, I agree. I was only making reference to the question of why Mollie would ever know an illegal immigrant farm worker because another poster had asked it. I agree, unless she knew him, she couldn't possibly know if he was legal or not, and frankly I don't think it would matter to her. I think the OP was basically implying that they were from two different worlds, and would never have been known or friends to each other. I do not necessarily agree with those thoughts.

 

[TL4S]

Maybe


Maybe he was driving around in the Nissan after the crime because he didn't want to get noticed or get stopped for some reason in the black car

Here are some of my wild speculations about that Nissan:

• He drove it after the crime while the Malibu's trunk was getting cleaned (by himself or elsewhere)
• He had access to both cars regularly (they belonged to the farm or his uncle)
• Evidence was found inside that Nissan (whoever bought MT's phone off CR owned the car?)
• It was the car described in the 2017 SA cases in neighboring counties and CR was involved

Let the hate posts begin...

 

[MsBetsy]

Immigrant Student’s Rights to Attend Public Schools


I think one of her coworkers said that one of the daycare kids had a birthday and that Mollie wanted to bring it on Friday to celebrate the child’s birthday.

I thought it was a co-workers Birthday, but none-the- less, it was stated somewhere to be on Friday. It may have even been stated somewhere else that it was the next day, who knows? There was so much inaccurate reporting!

 

[kpm]

Immigrant Student’s Rights to Attend Public Schools


I think one of her coworkers said that one of the daycare kids had a birthday and that Mollie wanted to bring it on Friday to celebrate the child’s birthday.

Thanks

Others were kind enough to post links too, I came in so late to this crime that I had missed that and thought it was for the next day.