IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #43

[Al Hoffman]

If it is a farm vehicle maybe the company may plead the 5th if he had authorization or say it was stolen (which begs the question when it was reported stolen). However, this is a fairly long term worker & there will be witnesses whether he had access or didn't, over using vehicles or "this" vehicle. Willing to bet IF he did have access there will be many people that witnessed how often & if it was OK'd by the company. Bottom line, I don't think a company would be able to get away with saying after 4 years, this employee suddenly stole a vehicle on the very night he killed someone. I believe it is going to be a court case IMO.

Do you really think that MT's family will go there? RT does not seem to roll that way. A tort against Y farms could bring a lot of hurt for the family. However, only time will tell for sure.

 

[MyBelle]

The more I read in these threads pertaining to Mollie and her horrific death, I think the will rot in prison for the rest of his sorry life.

Hopefully, the young child's mother can get the child far away from the .

The State of Iowa will keep the CR locked up but if the mother wants the child to see her incarcerated father, the state likely will allow it. It is a lot of emotional baggage for a small child to carry. JMO

 

[Al Hoffman]

It isn't an LLC. It is a corporation which is a separate legal entity from the people who own it. That said, I can't remember if the article said the car was registered to Yarrabee Farms or to one of the owners of Yarrabee.

RIGHT, so even a regular corporation gives a measure of liability protection to the people who own it.

 

[MyBelle]

Do you really think that MT's family will go there? RT does not seem to roll that way. A tort against Y farms could bring a lot of hurt for the family. However, only time will tell for sure.

For public relations reasons, I think it is more likely Yarrabee Farms will quickly reach a settlement with Mollie's family much the same way Disney quickly resolved $$$ with the parents of Lane Graves, the child killed by the alligator at Disney World. No lawsuit was ever filed. JMO

 

[MyBelle]

RIGHT, so even a regular corporation gives a measure of liability protection to the people who own it.

I suppose the estate could decide to sue the owners personally as well as sue the corporation. Too many facts about this case are still unknown. JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

I found no other media link regarding the Malibu belonging to the farm except for the one on Yc news. Appears Yc news is out of Philadelphia and has a history of releasing info that turns out not to be true. I won't take this as fact until it shows up on a reputable news link
I also think the distinguishing features this car has don't appear to be in line with what the farm would probably purchase. JMO

Thanks very much for that because I didn’t find anything. If a farm provided a vehicle to an employee, I’d also wager heavily on it’d being a crew cab truck to assist with other types of farm work as opposed to a Chevy Malibu with chrome trim.

 

[Jaclin]

Do you really think that MT's family will go there? RT does not seem to roll that way. A tort against Y farms could bring a lot of hurt for the family. However, only time will tell. for sure.

I don't think so, either. The Tibbetts and the Langs were reported to be friends. The Tibbetts no doubt believe in good faith that the Langs did not see this coming from their farm hand, and I don't believe they hold the Langs responsible. The car helped transport MT off-site to the secluded area, but there is nothing to indicate it as a murder weapon. CR could have still killed MT without access to a car. If she was able to get to the secluded area on foot, then so could've CR. It just would have been a lot more difficult to move her very far afterwards.

 

[Jim G]

I think a lot more Americans would do these farming jobs if we eliminated entitlements to the healthy

 

[Dee10]

Do you really think that MT's family will go there? RT does not seem to roll that way. A tort against Y farms could bring a lot of hurt for the family. However, only time will tell for sure.

I have no idea...and there maybe or not be a case. Following cases over the years, some families do not want to go to court & other families are all over going to court. Yes, time will tell.

 

[kpm]

For public relations reasons, I think it is more likely Yarrabee Farms will quickly reach a settlement with Mollie's family much the same way Disney quickly resolved $$$ with the parents of Lane Graves, the child killed by the alligator at Disney World. No lawsuit was ever filed. JMO

That would be the right thing to do

 

[MistyWaters]

What has it released that has turned out not to be true? I'm just curious. I think if it wasn't true, Yarrabee would have immediately issued a PR discrediting it instead of failing to return their call.

I doubt Yarrabee Farms would lose sleep over a speculative media report from Philadelphia. The truth will come out soon enough and meanwhile the general public awaits. It’s not up to Yarrabee Farms to keep us informed given LE is releasing nothing.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't think so, either. The Tibbetts and the Langs were reported to be friends. The Tibbetts no doubt believe in good faith that the Langs did not see this coming from their farm hand, and I don't believe they hold the Langs responsible. The car helped transport MT off-site to the secluded area, but there is nothing to indicate it as a murder weapon. CR could have still killed MT without access to a car. If she was able to get to the secluded area on foot, then so could've CR. It just would have been a lot more difficult to move her very far afterwards.

Pretty difficult to abduct someone without a vehicle.

 

[MyBelle]

I doubt Yarrabee Farms would lose sleep over a speculative media report from Philadelphia. The trust will come out soon enough and meanwhile the general public awaits.

Yarrabee was given the opportunity to comment and chose not to do so. That's up to them. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over worrying about their reputation.

 

[Jim G]

Yarrabee farms bears no responsibility. Talk of a lawsuit is ill-regarded.

 

[MyBelle]

I think a lot more Americans would do these farming jobs if we eliminated entitlements to the healthy

Several states have dairy farm training for inmates who could fill these jobs. I know Wisconsin does. No need to import illegal workers and it could help cut down on recidivism rates.

 

[MistyWaters]

Pretty difficult to abduct someone without a vehicle.

Earlier there has been a lot of discussion pertaining to CR “blaming” Mollie because she threatened to call police, according to his story.

Just an observation, now the “blame” has shifted away from CR’s personal accountability to blame Yarrabee Farms by an unverified allegation that they provided him with the vehicle he used in connection to her murder.

Interesting, the theme of blame in this case....

 

[Jaclin]

Pretty difficult to abduct someone without a vehicle.

I don't doubt the car made it easier for him. He could have still killed her, though, and left her in the ditch next to the road.

 

[Jealoushe]

How long will theLE keep theMalibu? For testing? Will it be returned to Yarbee Farm owners once processed by forensics or do they keep it until trial is over or conviction by a plea deal? Just wondering how long evidence in general like automobiles are held?

In my experience they keep evidence until after trial.

 

[Al Hoffman]

For public relations reasons, I think it is more likely Yarrabee Farms will quickly reach a settlement with Mollie's family much the same way Disney quickly resolved $$$ with the parents of Lane Graves, the child killed by the alligator at Disney World. No lawsuit was ever filed. JMO

Why? What is their liability? Could a reasonable and prudent man have known that CR would kill MT. We are not talking about an auto accident here. The fact that CR was an unlicensed driver had nothing to do with MT's death. Yes, CR should not have been driving. But we do not know if CR showed a fake (not in the system) DL, or a real but altered Iowa DL with DR's picture and name on it to management. Iffy at a traffic stop, but suffecent to pass muster with the owner. Or, the farm/car owner could represent that CR did show him a "Licence". Prove otherwise.

We do not even know who gave him permission to use the car. What is the "chain of command" at the farm. Could CR's uncle who works at the farm be his immediate supervisor and gave CR permission to use the car? And could the uncle have represented to the Farm management that his nephew was licenced?

I would be curious as to what a Civil Attorney would recommend in this situation. Pay or hold tight? Or if there will be any such case.

Only time will tell what happens next, or down the road.

 

[Jealoushe]

Yarrabee Farms' commercial insurance provider sure wouldn't pay any claims if that uninsured driver plowed into another car. That business has opened itself to huge liability in Mollie's death, imo.

Exactly.

Absolutely huge liability.

This was really really careless of the farm, not to mention the farm owner is a politician and should know better.