IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #43

[MistyWaters]

I've only skimmed the last thread, is that for real? The fake name he used was John Budd?

It appears so, although not officially confirmed by either LE nor Yarrabee Farms. The information was initially reported to came from three unnamed sources who asked for confidentiality.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I've only skimmed the last thread, is that for real? The fake name he used was John Budd?

Yes, but I don't believe it's been confirmed by LE.

 

[Al Hoffman]

Earlier there has been a lot of discussion pertaining to CR “blaming” Mollie because she threatened to call police, according to his story.

Just an observation, now the “blame” has shifted away from CR’s personal accountability to blame Yarrabee Farms by an unverified allegation that they provided him with the vehicle he used in connection to her murder.

Interesting, the theme of blame in this case....

I don't think that there has been any shifting of blame here, as it is two entirely different conversations, as I see it.

First, the discussion we have had over these past 43 threads is that there is a clear presumption of guilt that CR killed MT. Also, that while MT may have said 'go away or I'll call the police" or done any number of things that may have angered CR, she has no blame for causing her own death. The onus of that blame is clearly on CR, as I think we all agree.

Secondly, there is tonight's discussion about the possibility of a Civil liability against Y Farms, or the owners, concerning the fact that CR used a car which may have belonged to the Farm (this pending further MSM confirmation) in the commission of MT's murder.

Two different discussions, two different court cases, one a certain Criminal case against CR. One a hypothetical Civil case against Y Farms.

No blame placed on MT, no alleviation of CR's guilt.

JMOO

 

[Al Hoffman]

The public forms opinions. Perception is reality.

Especially yours! Lip Balm?

 

[scarlettbones]

Holy cow. I mean, I think the farm knew he/countless others who have come through weren't entirely on the up and up, but that is a major red flag, imo. He might as well have called himself Uncle Sam.

 

[MyBelle]

Is that like the old saying “Don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind’s made up!”? But no, I’m quite certain the public is smarter than that.

Don't bet on it. The concept of "Perception is reality" is the foundation of public relations. After the John Budd bombshell from yesterday, I'd say Yarrabee Farms should be seeking the counsel of a professional spinmeister. Initially claiming they used E-Verify and then having to backtrack was not helpful to their public image. JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

If the story of the Yarrabee Farm vehicle ownership was ever posted on this thread, it’s possible it’s been removed for the reason it wasn’t sourced from MSM.

Appears yv.news is a “cooperative” effort compiled by students.
YC - About Us | YC.news

 

[otto]

I don't think that there has been any shifting of blame here, as it is two entirely different conversations, as I see it.

First, the discussion we have had over these past 43 threads is that there is a clear presumption of guilt that CR killed MT. Also, that while MT may have said 'go away or I'll call the police" or done any number of things that may have angered CR, she has no blame for causing her own death. The onus of that blame is clearly on CR, as I think we all agree.

Secondly, there is tonight's discussion about the possibility of a Civil liability against Y Farms, or the owners, concerning the fact that CR used a car which may have belonged to the Farm (this pending further MSM confirmation) in the commission of MT's murder.

Two different discussions, two different court cases, one a certain Criminal case against CR. One a hypothetical Civil case against Y Farms.

No blame placed on MT, no alleviation of CR's guilt.

JMOO

Why would there be a lawsuit related to a car that was used during the abduction? There's no reason to believe that this is the only car he could have used. Maybe there were other cars that he could borrow, or he could steal a car.

 

[scarlettbones]

Out of curiosity....if we could ask LE three questions what would you ask them?

I'd like to know how they will be affected going forward. This is such a small town, with nothing like this before (afaik). I wonder how the hispanic community will be affected.

 

[scarlettbones]

Don't bet on it. The concept of "Perception is reality" is the foundation of public relations. After the John Budd bombshell from yesterday, I'd say Yarrabee Farms should be seeking the counsel of a professional spinmeister. Initially claiming they used E-Verify and then having to backtrack was not helpful to their public image. JMO

Their FB rating is a 1.4. People are bombarding them with 1 star and leaving bad reviews. They are going to have a hard time recovering from this. I imagine a name change is in their future.

 

[MyBelle]

It appears so, although not officially confirmed by either LE nor Yarrabee Farms. The information was initially reported to came from three unnamed sources who asked for confidentiality.

If the story of the Yarrabee Farm vehicle ownership was ever posted on this thread, it’s possible it’s been removed for the reason it wasn’t sourced from MSM.

Appears yv.news is a “cooperative” effort compiled by students.
YC - About Us | YC.news

Your link states it is an American news agency. It doesn't say it is "compiled by students" but even if it was, it seems to be a legit source.

 

[MyBelle]

Why would there be a lawsuit related to a car that was used during the abduction? There's no reason to believe that this is the only car he could have used. Maybe there were other cars that he could borrow, or he could steal a car.

CR had no driver's license. He shouldn't have been driving any car on public roads.

 

[scarlettbones]

Your link states it is an American news agency. It doesn't say it is "compiled by students" but even if it was, it seems to be a legit source.

That link directly quotes a page saying it is compiled by students.

"We give students the opportunity to gain experience in journalism by simply contributing content to our platform. "

edited to add link: YC - About Us | YC.news

 

[MyBelle]

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[Kal-EL]

This is the best I can figure out so far.

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Thank you, that’s better than nothing.

 

[MyBelle]

That link directly quotes a page saying it is compiled by students.

"We give students the opportunity to gain experience in journalism by simply contributing content to our platform. "

edited to add link: YC - About Us | YC.news

Some stories may be written by journalism students. Most J-schools link with news organizations to provide internships for students. They get college credit for it. An invaluable learning experience. But it is clearly not all written by students. From the link:
About Us

YC is an American news agency based in Philadelphia that operates as a cooperative. Our mission is to organize the information provided to us by people and organizations around the world, thus making it universally accessible and useful to readers, students, professors, researchers and of course the curious general public.


We give students the opportunity to gain experience in journalism by simply contributing content to our platform. Throughout their college career, students create articles and network with major power players in the media industry to line up amazing internships and potential careers following graduation.

 

[Al Hoffman]

Their FB rating is a 1.4. People are bombarding them with 1 star and leaving bad reviews. They are going to have a hard time recovering from this. I imagine a name change is in their future.

Milk is milk, beef is beef, veal is veal. While the general public may rant with pitchforks, the industry that conducts itself in the same manner as Y Farms will not care.

Who buys Y Farm milk? Have they been boycotted yet? Cow meat is used for hamburger and other "stuff" like hot dogs. Veal comes from unwanted calves (many, as cows must have calves to produce milk). Has anyone boycotted Y Farms meat processor? And other Daries and ranchers and farmers who buy their prize bulls and cows and semen will not care. They rely on migrants too!

 

[wary]

If the story of the Yarrabee Farm vehicle ownership was ever posted on this thread, it’s possible it’s been removed for the reason it wasn’t sourced from MSM.

Appears yv.news is a “cooperative” effort compiled by students.
YC - About Us | YC.news

The story was posted in this thread about twelve hours ago. You can find it by searching the thread for the word 'Malibu.'

I know it's been reported, with a question as to whether YC is MSM or not. It hasn't been removed yet, for whatever that's worth.

 

[MistyWaters]

I'd like to know how they will be affected going forward. This is such a small town, with nothing like this before (afaik). I wonder how the hispanic community will be affected.

I couldn’t help but feel the community’s pain upon reading this - not only over the death of Mollie but involving the aftermath as well.
Brooklyn, Iowa, wanted to mourn, but politics instead brought division

 

[scarlettbones]

Sorry I can't find the original post by otto, but in reply to this map:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/upload_2018-9-6_18-47-4-png.145929/

There has been some theories about the route taken and how the carwash/boundry/385ave/truckstop/last ping/body site fit together with the abduction and where he traveled etc.

What if the Carwash and truck stop were the before and after pinpoints of his car?

As in, after reviewing security tapes, they were able to put together a time line of the malibu and mollie. Malibu spotted at the carwash around 6:30pm (my speculation on time, just an example), then circling around boundry area 7:45 (shows he was cruising around looking/following), mollie going by 8-8:1515pm, both seen near 385th 815:-8:28pm (abduction/possible end of fitbit data), down 200th ave where her phone pings one last time then drops off body (and whatever else). Then he leaves and heads back towards Brooklyn and the malibu is seen again at/near the truckstop by 10:15. Since they didn't know who they were looking for I'm assuming he didn't get out of the car but it was seen on video.

Anyway, all moo, I'm done writing fanfiction , back to lurking/reading....