Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #44

[MyBelle]

Hold on, I got just three sentences into that and had to stop. 1) I haven’t found anyone he knows best, nor do I expect to. Our social circles don’t really overlap. 2) He felt comfortable enough to ask a lot of girls out. 3) I have no indication from anyone that he drinks or does drugs.

I think his most serious vices were and violent video games.

 

[Al Hoffman]

I still think that the farm owners by letting the unlicensed help use the vehicle resulting in a death, liability it there. The vehicle is what was used to abduct and transport. The vehicle is the one piece of evidence from the film that led LE to Rivera. That vehicle was used to commit crimes by an employee that worked for the farm owners.
I think about my daughter and it would be my decision, in that case it would not matter to me what I had to do to get justice for her, holding the criminal accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Holding the farm owners responsible for their negligence would be based on justice for the loss of my one and only child/ daughter. I recognize that this family may not do this and that is their decision. I on the other hand would make sure to hold every single entity responsible that had any part in or that led to the loss of my daughter.
When I was hit age 27 and badly injured almost killed by a three time arrested drunk driver, my father went and hired the best legal in our town, everyone involved was taken to court, including the bar that served him. It worked out better covering ever base legally. The bar was oh so sorry for their part, my father could have cared less how they felt... the judgement was punitive and sometimes that’s really the only thing these businesses understand monetary loss, which was six figures. The drunk driver well his inheritance was the family home, guess what my dad did? People matter in our family, and so does the law. If your illegal behavior leads to injury or death in my family, just see you in court.

We all deal with grief and anger in different ways.

 

[SharonNeedles]

I think his most serious vices were and violent video games.

Was he a gamer? If you’re talking about GTA I think it’s rep is hyped, my daughters were playing that when they were 10ish. But that’s not really anything I’d expect anyone to be playing in 2018.

And we know he was into ? I hadn’t heard that.

 

[Mica]

Brilliant, post mate, wish we could pin it! Using the post #406 for all future reference. As an employer, I've no doubt that using E-Verify for CR's hiring docs would not yield a different result than the SSNVS system used by employer. 4 years steady employment with same employer is the best indicator his "bogus documents are good."

How is E-Verify different from the Social Security Number Verification Service?

E-Verify confirms the employment eligibility of newly hired employees. The Social Security Administration’s program verifies that a name matches a Social Security number (SSN). A person in the United States may have a valid SSN but not be authorized to work in the United States.

How is E-Verify different from the Social Security Number Verification Service?



Social Security Verification vs. E-Verify

There is some confusion as to the difference between verifying a social security number, and authorizing one’s eligibility to work in the United States (E-Verify). Due to the increased number of “e-raids” that the Department of Homeland Security is conducting on businesses, organizations must ensure that they’re employing applicants who are authorized to work in the United States, which can be achieved in two ways:

The first method is to verify through a Social Security Administration database that the social security number, name of employee, and date of birth all match. The second, and more reliable method, is to validate employment eligibility by enrolling in the E-Verify program, a government database which authorizes eligibility for employment. Once enrolled in E-Verify, employers may check that the I-9 documents provided by the employee (permanent resident card, passport, birth certificate, etc.) are authentic, and provide authorization for the employee to work in the United States.

Social Security Verification vs. E-Verify

 

[MassGuy]

Was he a gamer? If you’re talking about GTA I think it’s rep is hyped, my daughters were playing that when they were 10ish. But that’s not really anything I’d expect anyone to be playing in 2018.

And we know he was into ? I hadn’t heard that.

It’s still one of the best selling video games in the world. Its come a long way since 1997. I don’t buy that video games or had anything to do with this, even if he was into that sort of thing.

 

[MsBetsy]

Was he a gamer? If you’re talking about GTA I think it’s rep is hyped, my daughters were playing that when they were 10ish. But that’s not really anything I’d expect anyone to be playing in 2018.

And we know he was into ? I hadn’t heard that.

No, I don't think we have any indication of that at all, at least not from what I have seen. Imo

 

[crhedBngr]

Not sure what’s acceptable to say here and what’s not so I’ll be intentionally vague. I’ve had connections to many of names associated with Mollie’s case since the day she went missing. I had friend-of-my-friend connections at best, mostly because I’m way older than 20 and don’t live in Brooklyn. My connections to CR’s friends are more distant still because his social circle is almost exclusively Hispanic, but it was inevitable that I could work my way deeper and find connections. That said, I’ve managed to converse with people that have actually been around him and are in a position to say first-hand what he was like. I’ve actually invited one of them to join us on WebSlueths to discuss but I don’t know whether she will or not. At any rate, the picture I’m getting is not at all what’s being described here.

RBBM

Thanks for taking the initiative on this. Hoping she joins us soon.

 

[JenniD]

She's nurturing. She's a Harry Potter fan. We all know Mollie Tibbetts' face, but her friends and family say she's so much more.
This article was written a day or two before mollies body was found. 2 things in the article got my attention. Mollie was trained to work with abused battered woman and men and a Friend indicates a couple of days before she disappeared that she had reached out to a former classmate who was having issues just to check on them. Pure speculation here but what if that person had anything to do with CR and may have been subjected to abuse? I am trying not to sleuth someone we have been instructed not to.
Most likely not relevant in any way but what if CR was angry at MT for interfering?
MOO

 

[MyBelle]

Was he a gamer? If you’re talking about GTA I think it’s rep is hyped, my daughters were playing that when they were 10ish. But that’s not really anything I’d expect anyone to be playing in 2018.

And we know he was into ? I hadn’t heard that.

I think he was into and violent video games. Plenty of games are available. Both are activities that he could do online and not in social gatherings. CR's violent crime didn't emerge out of thin air. JMO

 

[dlharris2712]

I read the opposite, that he only drinks soda. Just wondering if that's true, not suggesting you try to find out! It does tend to give people the " nerve" to do things they wouldn't normally do!

I drink soda...it doesn't give me the "nerve" to do things I wouldn't normally do, because my life is pretty normal, in general. But it does give me a little boost in the morning and I like the taste.

 

[Followfacts]

https://jalopnik.com/why-you-should-think-twice-before-lending-your-car-to-s-1684911505

“Note that your consent is required for the liability to apply”

“I have to give you the full spectrum of legal possibilities, no matter how remote. So let me tell you about Ryan Holle. He is serving a life sentence without a chance of parole because he lent his car to his friends. Granted, those friends went and robbed someone after using that car to drive themselves to the scene of the crime. And there, they killed someone. At the moment of the murder, Holle was at home, asleep. Based on those facts – and the fact that Florida is one of the states that still has a felony murder rule on its books – Holle was sent to prison for life.”

Iowa ?

 

[Kensie]

Wow, that was interesting Followfacts. I never lend my car and nor do I borrow cars.
Unbelievable that someone is spending life in prison for lending jerks his car. That is a hard one to wrap my head around especially since he was not with the people that killed someone.

 

[mtnlites]

I drink soda...it doesn't give me the "nerve" to do things I wouldn't normally do, because my life is pretty normal, in general. But it does give me a little boost in the morning and I like the taste.

I pretty much consider myself a soda addict. I am sure I drink way more than the average person. I like the taste and it gets me over the afternoon slump. I have never heard of it acting like liquid courage, however. That is a new one to me.

 

[MassGuy]

https://jalopnik.com/why-you-should-think-twice-before-lending-your-car-to-s-1684911505

“Note that your consent is required for the liability to apply”

“I have to give you the full spectrum of legal possibilities, no matter how remote. So let me tell you about Ryan Holle. He is serving a life sentence without a chance of parole because he lent his car to his friends. Granted, those friends went and robbed someone after using that car to drive themselves to the scene of the crime. And there, they killed someone. At the moment of the murder, Holle was at home, asleep. Based on those facts – and the fact that Florida is one of the states that still has a felony murder rule on its books – Holle was sent to prison for life.”

Iowa ?

The main point here is that Holle was convicted under the felony murder rule, because he knew his vehicle was going to be used in commission of a crime. He made incriminating statements to that fact.

There is no indication that anyone lent CR the car, knowing he was about to commit a felony (murder).

Holle’s sentence was commuted to 25 years by governor Scott.

 

[SharonNeedles]

It’s still one of the best selling video games in the world. Its come a long way since 1997. I don’t buy that video games or had anything to do with this, even if he was into that sort of thing.

GTA must have had a hell of a run. And I thought it was kind of cheesy...

Agreed that neither had anything to do with it, but we both know how some would latch onto that and open up another unneeded debate.

 

[1987]

The main point here is that Holle was convicted under the felony murder rule, because he knew his vehicle was going to be used in commission of a crime. He made incriminating statements to that fact.

There is no indication that anyone lent CR the car, knowing he was about to commit a felony (murder).

Holle’s sentence was commuted to 25 years by governor Scott.

unless his fake name loaned it to his real name? I don't know if we even know who owned the car. I wonder if it was financed if it was in his fake name. my reasoning for this is if it was lot financed, easiest to finance imo is why I say lot financed, then they would verify employment and doesn't seem he could use real name. there are other complications in this idea though.

 

[Jim G]

Soda? ? Video games? Not sure where all this is coming from, or where it's going. But how about just saying that he was just plain evil? There are those who get no pleasure out of life except Meanness, like killing a man's dog or burning his barn

 

[Al Hoffman]

The main point here is that Holle was convicted under the felony murder rule, because he knew his vehicle was going to be used in commission of a crime. He made incriminating statements to that fact.

There is no indication that anyone lent CR the car, knowing he was about to commit a felony (murder).

Holle’s sentence was commuted to 25 years by governor Scott.

You mean like CR saying to his work supervisor or a member of the family that owns the farm: "Hey, can I have the keys to the car? I'm going out tonight to find a girl to kill. Don't wait up.". I don't think that happened either.

JMOO

 

[MassGuy]

You mean like CR saying to his work supervisor or a member of the family that owns the farm: "Hey, can I have the keys to the car? I'm going out tonight to find a girl to kill. Don't wait up.". I don't think that happened either.

JMOO

Haaaa. Yeah. Highly doubtful.

 

[Followfacts]

The main point here is that Holle was convicted under the felony murder rule, because he knew his vehicle was going to be used in commission of a crime. He made incriminating statements to that fact.

There is no indication that anyone lent CR the car, knowing he was about to commit a felony (murder).

Holle’s sentence was commuted to 25 years by governor Scott.

Yes, you’re right, If people knew that a crime was going to occur. My point is leaving yourself open to liability, allowing unlicensed or licensed persons to use your car can result In further legal action. Negligence through inaction or intentional which results in injury or death.