Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #44

[MsBetsy]

I agree. I have no doubt that the majority of people who commit violent sexual crimes against women are probably watchers of porn, but so are a large segment of the population in general, both male and female, and they do not go out and commit crimes. Likewise, a very large percentage of young males play video games regularly, and yes, many of those are violent games, but again, they don't go out and commit murder. I liken it to the argument that marijuana use leads to harder drugs. In all likelihood, most hard drug users started with or continue to smoke weed, but look at the large number of potheads that never try anything harder. I think pointing to porn or video games is a cop out to transfer blame to something other than the killer. "The porn made him do it" or "Violent video games made him do it" remind me of Flip Wilson as Geraldine, saying "The devil made me do it". No addiction is healthy, but I think CR is to blame for this murder, not porn, and not GTA or any other video game. JMO

I agree. I also think that Ted Bundy's claim about porn, which led many people to believe porn to play a roll in murder, was just another ploy to buy himself a little more time.

 

[kpm]

I agree. I have no doubt that the majority of people who commit violent sexual crimes against women are probably watchers of porn, but so are a large segment of the population in general, both male and female, and they do not go out and commit crimes. Likewise, a very large percentage of young males play video games regularly, and yes, many of those are violent games, but again, they don't go out and commit murder. I liken it to the argument that marijuana use leads to harder drugs. In all likelihood, most hard drug users started with or continue to smoke weed, but look at the large number of potheads that never try anything harder. I think pointing to porn or video games is a cop out to transfer blame to something other than the killer. "The porn made him do it" or "Violent video games made him do it" remind me of Flip Wilson as Geraldine, saying "The devil made me do it". No addiction is healthy, but we do not even have any indication that CR had such an addiction. I think he is to blame for this murder, not porn, and not GTA or any other video game. JMO

Totally agree

 

[kpm]

I agree. I also think that Ted Bundy's claim about porn, which led many people to believe porn to play a roll in murder, was just another ploy to buy himself a little more time.

It’s placing blame on something other than where it belongs

Obviously people who commit heinous crimes are hardwired differently than the majority

 

[TL4S]

I agree. I have no doubt that the majority of people who commit violent sexual crimes against women are probably watchers of porn, but so are a large segment of the population in general, both male and female, and they do not go out and commit crimes. One poll I read estimated that about 75% of males and 30% of females watch porn. Likewise, a very large percentage of young males play video games regularly, and yes, many of those are violent games, but again, they don't go out and commit murder. I liken it to the argument that marijuana use leads to harder drugs. In all likelihood, most hard drug users started with or continue to smoke weed, but look at the large number of potheads that never try anything harder. I think pointing to porn or video games is a cop out to transfer blame to something other than the killer. "The porn made him do it" or "Violent video games made him do it" remind me of Flip Wilson as Geraldine, saying "The devil made me do it". No addiction is healthy, but we do not even have any indication that CR had such an addiction. I think he is to blame for this murder, not porn, and not GTA or any other video game. JMO

I fully agree. I think the fact that CR listed GTA as a favorite on FB only served for the image he was trying to project, along with a lot of the other things he had listed, like Narco, and the gun picture. None of it, in and of itself, makes him a murderer, but he chose to represent himself a certain way.

 

[MsBetsy]

I really hope playing those games doesn't increase the risk of killing people. My nephews are playing those games.

My daughter was into one of those games for awhile and she is one of the most docile and compassionate kids I know. It's kind of like the idea that heavy, hardcore music with violent lyrics will lead to violence. I used to listen to Eminem in the nineties when there was so much criticism of his lyrics and I don't think I've ever done anything violent or even very aggressive. I just like the music.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I fully agree. I think the fact that CR listed GTA as a favorite on FB only served for the image he was trying to project, along with a lot of the other things he had listed, like Narco, and the gun picture. None of it, in and of itself, makes him a murderer, but he chose to represent himself a certain way.

Seems like he wanted to look like he was a BillyBad^ss. I will never understand why people think it's a cool look....

 

[rebel123]

Mollie's clothing was found at the location where her body was found. How does he explain that? She was wearing clothes when she was abducted, and according to the warrant they were found at the same location as her body. Are the sharp object cuts only on the body, or also on the clothing?

How much blood is in the trunk? Where is it located? Does it suggest multiple injuries, or a head wound (known to bleed profusely).

"In clinical circles, it is well known that even “trivial” lacerations of blood-rich areas such as the scalp may bleed profusely and persistently."

Fatal hemorrhage from simple lacerations of the scalp

If there was one head injury prior to arrival at the cornfield, there should be one pool of blood indicating the position of her head in the trunk. If she had multiple fatal knife injuries when she was in the trunk, there should be several blood pooling areas in the trunk.

I'm confident that the prosecution will be able to prove that Mollie was attacked with the sharp object at the cornfield.

You've put forward a 'theory'; I've basically stated, that if your 'theory' (essentially your saying that Mollie was stabbed with a sharp object - multiple times where her body was found) is correct; then CR stating that his 'blocked memory' is a made up and lie. I'm not sure why you've listed all those questions in your post if your sure about what your saying.

 

[Boro55]

I drink soda...it doesn't give me the "nerve" to do things I wouldn't normally do, because my life is pretty normal, in general. But it does give me a little boost in the morning and I like the taste.

Same here since when does drinking a Soft-drink cause me to do things* i normally wouldn't do? i happen to drink cherry pepsi daily.
you have been warned!! LMAO!

 

[kpm]

You've put forward a 'theory'; I've basically stated, that if your 'theory' (essentially your saying that Mollie was stabbed with a sharp object - multiple times where her body was found) is correct; then CR stating that his 'blocked memory' is a made up and lie. I'm not sure why you've listed all those questions in your post if your sure about what your saying.

Hope you don’t mind me butting in on one of the questing

JMO

I think Otto is questioning if her body just received the “stab wounds” or if both body and clothes have the cut marks.

If not, it would indicate she was not wearing clothes when she was killed

 

[MsBetsy]

You've put forward a 'theory'; I've basically stated, that if your 'theory' (essentially your saying that Mollie was stabbed with a sharp object - multiple times where her body was found) is correct; then CR stating that his 'blocked memory' is a made up and lie. I'm not sure why you've listed all those questions in your post if your sure about what your saying.

The questions are meant to get people thinking, imo., the rest is based on the theory many have that he attacked her at the first sight in order to subdue her and put her in the trunk, then transported her to the cornfield where he continued the crime. He is saying he thinks the evidence in the trunk will show whether or not she was killed at the location of the body or before. He thinks the former, is the way I read it. And yes, I believe his black out story is a lie. We can't trust his story so trying to figure out how it fits in is just useless, imo. It just confuses things, making it difficult to put the pieces together, which was probably the intention in the first place. His story of not remembering what happened is everything that LE does not know. The rest of the details he gave is everything he knows they do know, or can prove. How convenient.

 

[Jaclin]

You've put forward a 'theory'; I've basically stated, that if your 'theory' (essentially your saying that Mollie was stabbed with a sharp object - multiple times where her body was found) is correct; then CR stating that his 'blocked memory' is a made up and lie. I'm not sure why you've listed all those questions in your post if your sure about what your saying.

good point. I was considering that the stabbing could have taken place in the cornfield. MT is confronted by CR. MT is knocked out (head wound). MT is taken to the cornfield used, abused, and killed with knife. It would be a lot cleaner if it happened this way and less chance of witnesses with everything essentially being done in the corn. The idea that she was butchered on the street would fit with his "block out" statement, but unless he carefully planned everything by covering up in plastic and covering his trunk in plastic, there would be a big mess on his body and in/on the car he would need to explain.

 

[rebel123]

What do you think happened after he abducted her and put her in the trunk?

After his alleged 'blocked memory', he found earbuds; then found body in boot; he then took the body to the cornfield; and hid the body with stalks. Any assault and the fatal attack took place elsewhere.

 

[The Farm]

Seems like he wanted to look like he was a BillyBad^ss. I will never understand why people think it's a cool look....

I don't know there might be some truth there, after all we know very very little about CR. Look at LE, that had to find out who he really was.

 

[kpm]

good point. I was considering that the stabbing could have taken place in the cornfield. MT is confronted by CR. MT is knocked out (head wound). MT is taken to the cornfield used, abused, and killed with knife. It would be a lot cleaner if it happened this way and less chance of witnesses with everything essentially being done in the corn. The idea that she was butchered on the street would fit with his "block out" statement, but unless he carefully planned everything by covering up in plastic and covering his trunk in plastic, there would be a big mess on his body and in/on the car he would need to explain.

JMO

He is smart enough to claim block out, as if it negates premeditated murder, he wanted the cops to think it was spur of the moment because of some trigger

 

[MsBetsy]

Same here since when does drinking a Soft-drink cause me to do things* i normally wouldn't do? i happen to drink cherry pepsi daily.
you have been warned!! LMAO!

Yikes! I thought replying three times already was enough! The "it" in the post refers to the alcohol and drugs, not the soda! Didn't mean to start rumors! Yes, my daughter drinks too much soda sometimes and if anything it makes her a little hyped up and silly. But it was alcohol that I was referring to that can make one uninhibited. Sorry to have to explain four times!

 

[Jaclin]

After his alleged 'blocked memory', he found earbuds; then found body in boot; he then took the body to the cornfield; and hid the body with stalks. Any assault and the fatal attack took place elsewhere.

well, I suppose there could have been a 3rd location we aren't aware of that would have allowed for less mess in the car and on CRs body before the final transport.

 

[rebel123]

I'm not sure how you can come to such a conclusion so early in this case. The judge has already said CR may have to go on the sex offender registry so clearly she knows something we don't. JMO.

Yes, but LE has said that it's a big jump from not being on their radar at all; to committing murder.
I don't think she knows; she's just covering all angles. You even say in your post 'may have to go'.

 

[cody22]

Yikes! I thought replying three times already was enough! The "it" in the post refers to the alcohol and drugs, not the soda! Didn't mean to start rumors! Yes, my daughter drinks too much soda sometimes and if anything it makes her a little hyped up and silly. But it was alcohol that I was referring to that can make one uninhibited. Sorry to have to explain four times!

Does that mean it is safe for me to drink this Dr. Pepper now ?......LOL !

 

[TL4S]

The questions are meant to get people thinking, imo., the rest is based on the theory many have that he attacked her at the first sight in order to subdue her and put her in the trunk, then transported her to the cornfield where he continued the crime. He is saying he thinks the evidence in the trunk will show whether or not she was killed at the location of the body or before. He thinks the former, is the way I read it. And yes, I believe his black out story is a lie. We can't trust his story so trying to figure out how it fits in is just useless, imo. It just confuses things, making it difficult to put the pieces together, which was probably the intention in the first place. His story of not remembering what happened is everything that LE does not know. The rest of the details he gave is everything he knows they do know, or can prove. How convenient.

When CR chose this story about blocking his memories, than I wonder why he didn't just say he came out of his blackout and found her laying in the cornfield at his feet, so he covered her with corn leaves. Why open himself up to being aware of everything that took place in the cornfield if he had murdered her there? It doesn't make sense to me. JMO

 

[rebel123]

Nothing has been stated about the type of sharp object he used. I have considered that he used a sharp instrument on her head or skull?

I haven't named an object; I'm assuming the multiple fatal wounds were caused with a stabbing motion.