Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #44

[cody22]

Well I know for a fact and the woman at the DMV told me that when people from foreign countries come in such as wearing head turbans and the women with their faces covered??? They can not make them remove them because of their religion......I would like to see if I went in their with my face covered as an American what they would do?

I would like to be behind you in line to watch that one....LOL !

 

[Al Hoffman]

Rats. We only had the lesser apes - gibbons, etc. Old World Monkeys like baboons would be a treat - macaques, mangabeys, mandrills, those. So much for Blockbuster. No wonder it's out of business!

Not quite. There is still one, last standing American Blockbuster open for business in Bend, Oregon. No Great Apes, no Baboons, just video and candy. I don't know if they have a "back room" there.

 

[beebosox]

Not quite. There is still one, last standing American Blockbuster open for business in Bend, Oregon. No Great Apes, no Baboons, just video and candy. I don't know if they have a "back room" there.

The Last Blockbuster Video in America Gets Its Own Craft Beer

Keeps their last few gibbons happy.

 

[rebel123]

We know the start and end location of the incident, and the time range in terms of start and finish times of incident. According to the suspect, when she arrived at the end location she had a head injury (this can be verified with blood evidence in the trunk).

What we know:

• incident timeline: 7:45PM t0 8:28PM
• incident locations: 1900 blk 385 ave, and just off Highway 21 on 460th Ave
• 69% abduction murder victims are deceased in less than 1 hour
• incident time for Mollie: 43 minutes
• travel time between locations: 15-18 minutes
• suspect's time to assault Mollie excluding travel time: 25 minutes

Given the information that we know, the timeline does not allow for a third location, and indeed we know that police are not searching a third location. We do know that the suspect's home was searched, but that does not mean that investigators believe that Mollie was at the dairy farm. According to the information that has been released by police, there are two locations: 385 Ave, and 460 Ave.

Why, without any related facts from police, would we introduce a third location to the timeline where Mollie allegedly received sharp object injuries?

According to the suspect the only injury Mollie suffered at the time he arrived just off Highway 21 on 460th Ave is a head injury. Granted he is most likely lying in much of his statement, but blood evidence should easily identify Mollie's injuries when she was in the trunk.

He may have memory failure between abduction and body location, but according to the suspect, she had one injury at the time his memory recovered. She was found with multiple sharp object injuries, so those must have occurred after his memory recovered.

So are we saying he's lying about his 'blocked memory' but telling the truth about there only being 'blood on Mollie's head's'?

To clarify; Mollie could have been initially attacked on the road; but she might of run towards other areas which are nearby etc.

 

[Al Hoffman]

I don't think Rivera had any reason to smile once he was arrested. But I would think he would show at least a little emotion in court. Guilt, remorse, maybe even fear or anger, but I didnt see anything. Just... nothingness. No emotion at all. He just looked like he was concentrating on what the translater was saying.

Maybe he's keeping the glass cyanide vial under his tongue for a rainy day?

 

[MsBetsy]

There is a LOT of "violent" for free on line (You ), including "Rape Van" that mimics what CR did without the murder. Also, now on some of the violent BD/SM porns the actress do a Q&A after the shooting to say how much they were willing participants, et al. It takes all kinds. And let's not even talk about rape fantasy out of Japan, as that stuff can get "weird".

You seem to know a lot about it, Al .

 

[rebel123]

Hello. I'm not "muddled". There are two locations associated with the abduction/murder, and a 43 minute timeline. Without introducing imaginary information that has no basis in known fact, there is no third location.

According to the suspect, when he arrived at the cornfield just off Highway 21 on 460th Ave., two things happened: he recovered from his memory problem and he discovered that Mollie had a head injury. According to the facts, she also suffered multiple sharp object injuries. Those injuries, according to the suspect, must have occurred after his memory recovered.

Where exactly have I stated a 3rd location? Somebody reading my post started talking about a third location.

 

[cody22]

We are now lost in the DMV and primate petting zoo/ video store.....LOL !...Come on trial !

 

[MsBetsy]

So are we saying he's lying about his 'blocked memory' but telling the truth about there only being 'blood on Mollie's head's'?

To clarify; Mollie could have been initially attacked on the road; but she might of run towards other areas which are nearby etc.

He knew there would be blood found in the trunk, thats why he said she was bleeding, imo. At least that much we can believe. I'm not sure anyone believes the block out story, I certainly don't. Jmo

 

[otto]

So are we saying he's lying about his 'blocked memory' but telling the truth about there only being 'blood on Mollie's head's'?

To clarify; Mollie could have been initially attacked on the road; but she might of run towards other areas which are nearby etc.

I didn't say that he is lying about his memory problems. I have said that, according to the suspect, Mollie had one injury when he recovered from the memory problem. According to the facts, Mollie suffered multiple injuries. The multiple injuries must have occurred after he recovered from his memory problem.

 

[Al Hoffman]

I think this has 'hit him for six' (cricket term); there's is a lot of confusion in his head; he has a lot of 'thinking time' as he isn't doing much; it's playing out in his head; why did I do this?; why did I do that?; why did I say that?; did I say the right thing?; what evidence has LE got?

O/T - in another case - There were some MS17 killers who were in court laughing, joking, waving etc.

Yeah, the MS-13 crowd can be stone hard killers. In some States they will step into MS-13 gang protection inside State Prison, with illicit cell phone contact with the outside gangs. Nobody is beyond their reach. They can afford to laugh, as they are being sent to "College", with their homies.

JMMO

 

[otto]

Where exactly have I stated a 3rd location? Somebody reading my post started talking about a third location.

That's great. Then we agree that there are two locations associated with Mollie's abduction.

 

[MsBetsy]

I didn't say that he is lying about his memory problems. I have said that, according to the suspect, Mollie had one injury when he recovered from the memory problem. According to the facts, Mollie suffered multiple injuries. The multiple injuries must have occurred after he recovered from his memory problem.

Am I the only one who thinks he's lying about his memory problem? Interesting to me how all the things he admitted to police are things they already know or can easily find out but the most gruesome, gory details of all the disgusting things he did to her are contained within his " blocked memory?" I just dont buy it. I think it's him not taking accountability for his actions.

 

[TL4S]

Is it possible the arrest warrant was issued based on his confession but LE had not yet discovered the exact location of the body but knew based on what CR told them that it was in a cornfield.

We do know the affidavit was issued after she was found because it describes the body being found in the location CR said it would be, the location and clothing matched, and ME affirmed a preliminary identification based on certain articles of clothing.

 

[Al Hoffman]

You seem to know a lot about it, Al .

The things I do to research for this thread...

Funny you say that...

Once I was giving a talk, for a group of students taking a National Board Exam, in Davenport, IA. The topic might have been "Microbiology/Public Health, and I was talking about bacterial species that affect the reproductive and urinary tract, questions asked on the exam. The Lady who owned the Board Review Company said the exact same thing to me, as you did...

When I took my Boards, I scored a perfect 800 on my Micro/PH section of the test. My tutorial and my students also raised the overall score on the boards for the entire college...

You might imagine that my diadactic method was a bit unorthodox, but my students did remember the material due to my crazy antics, and passed their boards...

The things I do.....

Nor do I have an urge to go out and kill........

 

[SteveP]

I didn't say that he is lying about his memory problems. I have said that, according to the suspect, Mollie had one injury when he recovered from the memory problem. According to the facts, Mollie suffered multiple injuries. The multiple injuries must have occurred after he recovered from his memory problem.

As someone else has pointed out, the suspect never said that Mollie had one injury. He said he noticed "she had blood on the side of her head". You are making the assumption that the blood would have been from one injury, but that is only an assumption. It could have been from one head wound. multiple head wounds, or, as another poster pointed out, she could have been lying in a pool of blood from an injury or injuries elsewhere. We do not know, and LE has never said. And in my opinion, the odds of her being alive in the trunk are about 50/50 JMO

 

[rebel123]

That's great. Then we agree that there are two locations associated with Mollie's abduction.

Yes; two main locations.

 

[otto]

Am I the only one who thinks he's lying about his memory problem? Interesting to me how all the things he admitted to police are things they already know or can easily find out but the most gruesome, gory details of all the disgusting things he did to her are contained within his " blocked memory?" I just dont buy it. I think it's him not taking accountability for his actions.

I don't think it matters whether he is lying about his memory problems. He admits to experiencing a rage when Mollie allegedly threatened him. He claims that rage led to a memory problem. During that memory problem he put Mollie in the trunk of his car and drove to a secluded cornfield.

When he recovered from the memory problem, Mollie had a head injury and she was in the trunk of his car. He no longer suffered from a memory problem when he removed her from his car, put her in the cornfield, and inflicted multiple sharp object injuries causing death.

 

[MyBelle]

I agree. I have no doubt that the majority of people who commit violent sexual crimes against women are probably watchers of , but so is a large segment of the population in general, both male and female, and they do not go out and commit crimes. Likewise, a very large percentage of young males play video games regularly, and yes, many of those are violent games, but again, they don't go out and commit murder. I liken it to the argument that marijuana use leads to harder drugs. In all likelihood, most hard drug users started with or continue to smoke weed, but look at the large number of potheads that never try anything harder. I think pointing to or video games is a cop out to transfer blame to something other than the killer. "The made him do it" or "Violent video games made him do it" remind me of Flip Wilson as Geraldine, saying "The devil made me do it". No addiction is healthy, but we do not even have any indication that CR had such an addiction. I think he is to blame for this murder, not , and not GTA or any other video game. JMO

The outcome of CR's actions are an indication he had something influencing his decisions. An addiction of any kind messes with brain wiring other than alcohol or drugs. There is addiction, gambling addiction, video game addiction (which the Sandy Hook killer engaged in.)

There is something which influenced CR's brain to decide to commit extreme violence against a woman. If you want to believe CR is just a normal guy, that's fine. I don't share your opinion. JMO

 

[SteveP]

The outcome of CR's actions are an indication he had something influencing his decisions. An addiction of any kind messes with brain wiring other than alcohol or drugs. There is addiction, gambling addiction, video game addiction (which the Sandy Hook killer engaged in.)

There is something which influenced CR's brain to decide to commit extreme violence against a woman. If you want to believe CR is just a normal guy, that's fine. I don't share your opinion. JMO

I believe the fact that I finished my post by stating that HE, not or video games, is to blame for her death would indicate to most people that I do not consider him a 'normal' guy in any way.