Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #45

[Jaclin]

The affidavit is a few pages back, it does ask and he doesn’t answer

oh, I see. up top. They should have forced him to fill it out completely.

 

[TL4S]

The affidavit is a few pages back, it does ask and he doesn’t answer

What I'm even more curious about is the car payment. Surely he isn't paying $270/month for that Nissan, is he? If it's the Malibu, which isn't registered under the CR name we know from LE, than what name is paying the bill, and who is it being paid to? I'm wondering if somebody else registered that car in their name (uncle, IM) and he was paying them each month. He claimed that payment, anyway.

 

[MistyWaters]

He's stuck with 'Diminished Capacity'; that's the story he has to stick with; unless they can get experts to state with reports that it's something else.

Yeah but what I get from the article to make a strong case he’d require a proven prior medical history of memory block outs. If he doesn’t there’s no evidence to prove it and everyone knows not all defendants tell the truth.

I think his case is very weak because he admitted to stalking her, running along side of her, then getting mad when told to buzz off and he admitted to the earbuds reminding him the body was in the trunk and weeks later knew where he’d left the body. That’s very different than someone claiming diminished capacity because they lost memory of what they did for an entire day or evening. So therefore if he does testify, given his statement, I think the prosecution has enough to toast him.

 

[kpm]

oh, I see. up top. They should have forced him to fill it out completely.

Yes, which makes it another lie, IMO

 

[kpm]

What I'm even more curious about is the car payment. Surely he isn't paying $270/month for that Nissan, is he? If it's the Malibu, which isn't registered under the CR name we know from LE, than what name is paying the bill, and who is it being paid to? I'm wondering if somebody else registered that car in their name (uncle, IM) and he was paying them each month. He claimed that payment, anyway.

Good question!

 

[Deleted member 718]

oh, I see. up top. They should have forced him to fill it out completely.

Oh, but he only has a grade school education. I see how this is going to pan out. Maybe the farm provided him housing and trained him to work with cattle --- as a favor --- to help out a mentally deficient person.

 

[kkdj]

John Budd and CR are the same person, his attorneys know that and so does the court.

Just because you have an alias it doesn’t mean you can say John Budd worked but CR committed the murder so CR is exempt from answering any John Budd questions, it’s the same person

Sounds like a technicality that will eventually get straightened out but for now CR was not technically paid. He gave a false name and a false SS# that belongs to someone else. That SS # paid taxes on that income.

 

[Deleted member 718]

DA will have to prove there was only one person in the car. The video identified the car, not the occupant/s.

 

[MistyWaters]

My question: Is someone with diminished capacity truly capable of closing a body into a trunk and driving for approximately, at least twenty minutes in his diminished state?

The defence lawyers who contributed to that article didn’t appear overly optimistic regarding diminished capacity and qualified their opinion by what is presently known about the case. What is known is really only what’s written on the affidavit to support the homicide charge. LE hasn’t revealed any of the evidence they’ve accumulated during the course of their investigation and that will matter greatly.

 

[TL4S]

Sounds like a technicality that will eventually get straightened out but for now CR was not technically paid. He gave a false name and a false SS# that belongs to someone else. That SS # paid taxes on that income.

Right. I basically see it like if a thief robs a bank and gets caught with a bag of cash, he doesn't get to keep it.

 

[The Farm]

But if he was paid under the table there is no paper trail.

 

[1987]

What I'm even more curious about is the car payment. Surely he isn't paying $270/month for that Nissan, is he? If it's the Malibu, which isn't registered under the CR name we know from LE, than what name is paying the bill, and who is it being paid to? I'm wondering if somebody else registered that car in their name (uncle, IM) and he was paying them each month. He claimed that payment, anyway.

the car may not have been registered at all. the pic shows tags on it that does not equal the tags must belong to that car and vin number. this whole situation is like thinking in a spiral, things that seem obvious may not be what they seem at all. I think that applies to the whole thing. it is just like one of the pictures we have all seen, you look and it looks like it is one thing and then you look closer and see that no it is something else. the case is filled with illusions.

 

[Kensie]

More than likely he was paid cash.

 

[MistyWaters]

DA will have to prove there was only one person in the car. The video identified the car, not the occupant/s.

The SODDI Defence wouldn’t fly as by his own statement CR admitted to being present. Even if he pointed to another party, his involvement equally implicates him.

 

[kkdj]

But if he was paid under the table there is no paper trail.

I think he was paid by a paycheck. He gave a name and SS# that was not his, but the employer requested information in order to put him on the payroll and W/C reports.

 

[Deleted member 718]

The SODDI Defence wouldn’t fly as by his own statement CR admitted to being present. Even if he pointed to another party, his involvement equally implicates him.

Wouldn't it negate the murder one charge? Obviously he's going to jail, but for how long. Those two coworkers who left town when CR was arrested.

 

[MistyWaters]

the car may not have been registered at all. the pic shows tags on it that does not equal the tags must belong to that car and vin number. this whole situation is like thinking in a spiral, things that seem obvious may not be what they seem at all. I think that applies to the whole thing. it is just like one of the pictures we have all seen, you look and it looks like it is one thing and then you look closer and see that no it is something else. the case is filled with illusions.

I don’t understand how an arrest warrant and court file can name a person of one birth date, and a financial disclosure allegedly completed by the defendant contains a different birth date. Something has to come together as he can’t have been born three years apart.

 

[TL4S]

But if he was paid under the table there is no paper trail.

It's possible, and I'm not that knowledgeable about this, but it seems to me the IRS would know about employees since SS#s were verified through the old SSA system. IMO, that would leave a questionable void in the farm's payroll, but not sure.

 

[kkdj]

More than likely he was paid cash.

This would surprise me as he furnished all the required documentation his employer requested so as to be put on payroll.

 

[MistyWaters]

But if he was paid under the table there is no paper trail.

If he was paid under the table I highly doubt the owners of the farm would’ve arranged a press conference with the media to acknowledge he was employed by them.