Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #46

[Twistinginthewind]

I think we’ve pretty much established that some of us think First Degree has already been proven and some of us don’t. No real need to continue beating a dead horse, is there?

Nothing has been proven. This is a forum for members of WS to discuss their ideas, thoughts, opinions on the case of Mollie Tibbett's murder.

 

[The Farm]

I know the case is at a standstill until that happens. I can only go over the same old so many times! I need fresh information and it will come but not for awhile.
I wonder how CR is doing in his little prison cell?

 

[girlhasnoname]

I know the case is at a standstill until that happens. I can only go over the same old so many times! I need fresh information and it will come but not for awhile.
I wonder how CR is doing in his little prison cell?

I'd like to think he is feeling bad or remorseful and would save everyone the pain/expense of long, drawn out trial...…
In reality......I'm pretty sure he's happy with "3 hots and a cot" and counting on DT to pull off a Hail Mary.
Oh and I do hope they've taken away his grooming tools

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Hope springs eternal

 

[Seattle1]

CBR's alleged statements do not align with the arrest affidavit because CBR completely deflected any blame from himself from the start!

He told us that Mollie threatened to phone the police, and he became angry, but what did he say to Mollie to elicit this response? I doubt that if he came running behind her waving her phone in the air shouting "hey you dropped this" that she would have threatened to phone the police. Next, he conveniently comes out of his trance without any memory of how Mollie ended up in the trunk of his car, let alone admission that he killed her and placed her there. If we can fill in the blanks, we can establish the degree of murder. On the other hand, I also think it's possible that "lying in wait" satisfies the definition of premeditation but not certain. And in states that follow "felony murder rules," killing someone in the commission of kidnapping -- even by accident, is considered 1st degree murder.

I'm hopeful that this will not go to trial, and that CBR takes a plea. Mollie is dead, and knowing all the details will only add to the pain and suffering her family and community have already suffered. The objective needs to be to take CBR off the streets, and that he's never eligible for parole. He alone sealed his own fate. MOO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

CBR's alleged statements do not align with the arrest affidavit because CBR completely deflected any blame from himself from the start!

He told us that Mollie threatened to phone the police, and he became angry, but what did he say to Mollie to elicit this response? I doubt that if he came running behind her waving her phone in the air shouting "hey you dropped this" that she would have threatened to phone the police. Next, he conveniently comes out of his trance without any memory of how Mollie ended up in the trunk of his car, let alone admission that he killed her and placed her there. If we can fill in the blanks, we can establish the degree of murder. On the other hand, I also think it's possible that "lying in wait" satisfies the definition of premeditation but not certain. And in states that follow "felony murder rules," killing someone in the commission of kidnapping -- even by accident, is considered 1st degree murder.

I'm hopeful that this will not go to trial, and that CBR takes a plea. Mollie is dead, and knowing all the details will only add to the pain and suffering her family and community have already suffered. The objective needs to be to take CBR off the streets, and that he's never eligible for parole. He alone sealed his own fate. MOO

I'm hoping real hard that he does "take a plea" and spares Mollie's family and community from a court trial. I'm thinking that's why "no news is good news" with the 'radio silence' on her case since the arrest press conference. and CR's lawyers dinking along without any real fortitude.

 

[SharonNeedles]

I'm hoping real hard that he does "take a plea" and spares Mollie's family and community from a court trial. I'm thinking that's why "no news is good news" with the 'radio silence' on her case since the arrest press conference. and CR's lawyers dinking along without any real fortitude.

What exactly does that mean?

 

[Twistinginthewind]

What exactly does that mean?

CR's lawyers have been silent (have made no statements) since his arrest.

 

[MistyWaters]

CR's lawyers have been silent (have made no statements) since his arrest.

That’s a good point, now that you mention it. Nothing other than impatience over receipt of discovery.

 

[SharonNeedles]

You would expect the defense to... what?

 

[MistyWaters]

You would expect the defense to... what?

It’s often common for defense attourneys to make boisterous remarks to the media, exhibiting confidence in some sort of positive outcome of a future trial “when the truth is known!”.

 

[SharonNeedles]

It’s often common for defense attourneys to make boisterous remarks to the media, exhibiting confidence in some sort of positive outcome of a future trial “when the truth is known!”.

CR ain’t no celebrity.

 

[Mica]

CR ain’t no celebrity.

Well, he is a murdering newsmaker, an infamous celebrity type. IMO

 

[MistyWaters]

CR ain’t no celebrity.

Right, I don’t recall anyone saying he’s a celebrity nor does an accused have to be one for defense attorneys to elude confidence in their role of legal representation. I’m one who thinks the evidence may be so overwhelming, there will be a guilty plea, no trial. Who knows, maybe he’ll plea to 2nd and the prosecution will be satisfied with that considering he did voluntarily lead LE to the body, even though it wasn’t until after he was cornered. Time will tell.

 

[MistyWaters]

Well, he is a murdering newsmaker, an infamous celebrity type. IMO

Yes, we’re required to ignore the politics so neither am I going there

 

[MyBelle]

It’s often common for defense attourneys to make boisterous remarks to the media, exhibiting confidence in some sort of positive outcome of a future trial “when the truth is known!”.

CR's first attorney certainly did that and also filed motions which the second attorney team withdrew, iirc.
I'm hoping he will spare the family more heartache and he'll enter a guilty plea.

 

[MyBelle]

Yes, we’re required to ignore the politics so neither am I going there

This stopped being about politics and more about serious public safety issues after the young female golfer was murdered on the golf course at Iowa State. There are segments of communities totally off LE radar and that should concern everyone.

JMO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I hadn't seen this article before (link below) in which people allege CR followed two other young women in Brooklyn in his car before he did it to Mollie. <shudder>... so following young women in his car was a pattern of behavior for him. I wish he had been reported to LE for this behavior before he followed Mollie. Maybe a stern warning from LE to cut it out and that people were paying attention and a chat with his employer (old fashioned type of "little talk") might have given him enough pause so he wouldn't have gone after Mollie.
New Details About Cristhian Rivera's Unsettling History — Including How He Followed Another Teen Girl In His Car Before Killing Mollie Tibbetts

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Mollie's murder is very high profile, with LE spending thousands of hours investigating her disappearance, processing over 4,000 tips/leads, and hundreds of articles on her case published in MSM. I would expect a statement from his defense attorneys would have been made by now simply because of the amount of time that has gone by since his arrest, and the enormity of the coverage of this case. That they haven't isn't a big deal, just seems unusual to me compared to other cases I've followed that were similar and the lawyers of the accused did make statements on the behalf of their clients regarding their thinking on the charges.

 

[SharonNeedles]

Mollie's murder is very high profile, with LE spending thousands of hours investigating her disappearance, processing over 4,000 tips/leads, and hundreds of articles on her case published in MSM. I would expect a statement from his defense attorneys would have been made by now simply because of the amount of time that has gone by since his arrest, and the enormity of the coverage of this case. That they haven't isn't a big deal, just seems unusual to me compared to other cases I've followed that were similar and the lawyers of the accused did make statements on the behalf of their clients regarding their thinking on the charges.

You’re from Iowa right? You’ve seen defense attorneys in Iowa murder trials get in front of the camera and act like that? I haven’t, not in Iowa.