GUILTY ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #104

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  • #701
And as for this "other potential suspect,"
AT said she needs more time to view discovery, Judge was not happy about that.

Judge just called AT out. Reminding her she asked for a delay, which he granted, so why are they waiting until NOW to do this?

AT said they haven't had time to look at discovery.

She whined that there was hundreds of hours of street traffic to look through, and it wasn't all labeled w/specifics, so she has to try and look at each one to see when and where...

And I think she had expected the state to have looked at each one and put a label with date and location. 🥴

Hippler reminded AT she had taken on a new DP case since this one began - he asked why she would take this additional case on when she was already overwhelmed with BK’s. Ouch!!
Haha 😆 BBM That's when the judge told AT to hire 5 or 6 more paralegals before trial LOL
 
  • #702
There is definitely evidence we know nothing about, but in regards to this particular social media connection, I recall it being put to bed by both parties during the discussion regarding the juror questioner. The prosecution took issue with a question about stalking a victim, saying it was false.

As for the ID's, it just makes no sense on its face. This guy didn't have the time to be fishing around for victim ID's.
I was thinking of the possibility that the id(s) might have some important meaning we know nothing about because no one filed any motions regarding them. Back in the day, I carried my ID, a single credit card and some cash in my pocket when I went out. When I came home, it went on the nightstand. I put it away the next day. So my life experience is no fishing for a victim id would be required, it was right there.

Absolutely not saying that is the case here. If there were victim ID's, I have hard time believing AT wouldn't have tried to file a motion to get them squelched,, but who knows? There is a possibility they might have a different importance.

Thank you for answering.
 
  • #703
I was thinking of the possibility that the id(s) might have some important meaning we know nothing about because no one filed any motions regarding them. Back in the day, I carried my ID, a single credit card and some cash in my pocket when I went out. When I came home, it went on the nightstand. I put it away the next day. So my life experience is no fishing for a victim id would be required, it was right there.

Absolutely not saying that is the case here. If there were victim ID's, I have hard time believing AT wouldn't have tried to file a motion to get them squelched,, but who knows? There is a possibility they might have a different importance.

Thank you for answering.
I can remember doing this also, but I always had my medical insurance card. LOL. I would be surprised if he had one of their IDs because he was focused, and in and out so fast. I guess we’ll find out.
 
  • #704
I have a relative who is a horder...compulsively. She has kept every ID and every driver's license in one rubber band. When I asked why she told me she was worried about motor vehicle department making a mistake and not being able to provide her with one. She needed them as back up. It made no sense to me. But it did to her. 😐
 
  • #705
I have a relative who is a horder...compulsively. She has kept every ID and every driver's license in one rubber band. When I asked why she told me she was worried about motor vehicle department making a mistake and not being able to provide her with one. She needed them as back up. It made no sense to me. But it did to her. 😐
I had a smaller wallet that if I was an vacation or weekend trip, I would just take the essential items.
 
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Know what else requires fine motor coordination?

Here's the church, here's the steeple....

1000046198.webp

Bet he has no trouble touching his nose, touching his toes, separating wee bits of personal trash from bigger bits of trash. Bet he did just fine using his smartphone too. You put your right fingers in, you put your right fingers out, you do the hokey pokey, and you type yourself out. Little keyboard, I bet TA, PhDer BK could operate his cellphone one-handed in his sleep. Well, while the rest of us sleep, I mean.

He picks up a pen, he writes, he types. On a doctoral level. And he shaves.

He obviously has some fine moral impairments, but fine motor ones? Nah.

JMO

 
  • #708
I was thinking of the possibility that the id(s) might have some important meaning we know nothing about because no one filed any motions regarding them. Back in the day, I carried my ID, a single credit card and some cash in my pocket when I went out. When I came home, it went on the nightstand. I put it away the next day. So my life experience is no fishing for a victim id would be required, it was right there.

Absolutely not saying that is the case here. If there were victim ID's, I have hard time believing AT wouldn't have tried to file a motion to get them squelched,, but who knows? There is a possibility they might have a different importance.

Thank you for answering.
If the IDs were not his own, but from different, previous residents of 1122 for instance, or actually taken from any other person.
 
  • #709
And as for this "other potential suspect,"
AT said she needs more time to view discovery, Judge was not happy about that.

Judge just called AT out. Reminding her she asked for a delay, which he granted, so why are they waiting until NOW to do this?

AT said they haven't had time to look at discovery.

She whined that there was hundreds of hours of street traffic to look through, and it wasn't all labeled w/specifics, so she has to try and look at each one to see when and where...

And I think she had expected the state to have looked at each one and put a label with date and location. 🥴

Hippler reminded AT she had taken on a new DP case since this one began - he asked why she would take this additional case on when she was already overwhelmed with BK’s. Ouch!!
Absolutley.
 
  • #710
Know what else requires fine motor coordination?

Here's the church, here's the steeple....

View attachment 578809

Bet he has no trouble touching his nose, touching his toes, separating wee bits of personal trash from bigger bits of trash. Bet he did just fine using his smartphone too. You put your right fingers in, you put your right fingers out, you do the hokey pokey, and you type yourself out. Little keyboard, I bet TA, PhDer BK could operate his cellphone one-handed in his sleep. Well, while the rest of us sleep, I mean.

He picks up a pen, he writes, he types. On a doctoral level. And he shaves.

He obviously has some fine moral impairments, but fine motor ones? Nah.

JMO

MOO Doing the power Steeple move with his hands as is taught on YT.
 
  • #711
As for the ID's, it just makes no sense on its face. This guy didn't have the time to be fishing around for victim ID's.
Agree.

It makes sense to me that LE took those ID cards into evidence when they found them because they wouldn't have known whether the cards might turn out to be significant, regardless whether the cards were BK's (valid or fake) or belonged to others.

Initially LE would not have been able to say with certainty that BK hadn't, say, stalked or made aborted attempts on others before settling on these individuals from this specific house. Or perhaps they might have discovered that the IDs were related to other crimes actually completed by BK.

But as the investigation proceeded it became apparent the IDs had no connection to this crime. At least that's my assumption. MOO
 
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Another tidbit from hearings: AT indicated they think they have a lead on another potential assailant in this case. Wonder what will develop with this — either a co-conspirator or an alternative murderer? Or no one — just excuse to stall or another attempt to confuse. OMO.
Author Howard Blum spent time embedded with the defense investigator while preparing to write and wrote in his book, "When the Night Comes Falling," that the defense investigator found a clear linkage to the organized crime/drug world that apparently made sense and allegedly had evidence that fits with this case. So that is what I am expecting will be brought up. JMO.

What would be interesting, and theoretically may actually be possible, is if the prosecution presents the same theory, but with BK as the enforcer for the OC group. JMO.

Eventually we will find out if Howard Blum was right or wrong. JMO.

All JMO.
 
  • #714
Haha 😆 BBM That's when the judge told AT to hire 5 or 6 more paralegals before trial LOL
That's what I thought when she said she cant go through the footage.
 
  • #715
Author Howard Blum spent time embedded with the defense investigator while preparing to write and wrote in his book, "When the Night Comes Falling," that the defense investigator found a clear linkage to the organized crime/drug world that apparently made sense and allegedly had evidence that fits with this case. So that is what I am expecting will be brought up. JMO.

What would be interesting, and theoretically may actually be possible, is if the prosecution presents the same theory, but with BK as the enforcer for the OC group. JMO.

Eventually we will find out if Howard Blum was right or wrong. JMO.

All JMO.
Been enough time to fill that out, starting now is just delay tactics.
 
  • #716
Hippler reminded AT she had taken on a new DP case since this one began - he asked why she would take this additional case on when she was already overwhelmed with BK’s. Ouch!!
Is AT working as a private attorney right now in private practice? I vaguely remember some discussion about her leaving her position as a public defense attorney. I don't think the judge would make this comment if she was still a public defense attorney for the state and had taken on another DP case, given her being one of the limited DP-qualified defense attorneys in the state. Seems odd that he would make this kind of remark, IMO.
 
  • #717
Eventually we will find out if Howard Blum was right or wrong. JMO

Howard Blum wasn’t there. He can only theorize.

He isn’t part of the legal teams who have reviewed the actual evidence, not the purported evidence.

Bryan WAS there, because his DNA is on a critical part of the weapon housing, beneath the body of someone slashed with a knife, which fits the sheath whose snap BK touched.

Therefore I hold very little stock in any theory that absolves Bryan of this quadruple murder.

JMO
 
  • #718
Is AT working as a private attorney right now in private practice? I vaguely remember some discussion about her leaving her position as a public defense attorney. I don't think the judge would make this comment if she was still a public defense attorney for the state and had taken on another DP case, given her being one of the limited DP-qualified defense attorneys in the state. Seems odd that he would make this kind of remark, IMO.
<<snipped>>

"Anne Taylor is the lead attorney for defendant Bryan Kohberger, who is accused of killing four University of Idaho students in Latah County in November 2022. She’s now also been assigned the lead attorney role for Idaho prisoner Skylar Meade in his murder case in Nez Perce County.

<<snipped>>

Taylor left her position last month as chief of the Kootenai County Public Defender’s Office and has transitioned into private practice, court records showed."

 
  • #719
Here is the church, here is the steeple...
MOO Doing the power Steeple move with his hands as is taught on YT.
@Boxer Thx for the ref to youtube.

During those Sunday morning classes 60+ years ago, if I had realized that there would later be a Power Steeple Move, I would have paid more attention. LOL.


eta: Whoops, forgot to include post by @Megnut TYVM.
Know what else requires fine motor coordination?

Here's the church, here's the steeple....

View attachment 578809

Bet he has no trouble touching his nose, touching his toes, separating wee bits of personal trash from bigger bits of trash. Bet he did just fine using his smartphone too. You put your right fingers in, you put your right fingers out, you do the hokey pokey, and you type yourself out. Little keyboard, I bet TA, PhDer BK could operate his cellphone one-handed in his sleep. Well, while the rest of us sleep, I mean.

He picks up a pen, he writes, he types. On a doctoral level. And he shaves.

He obviously has some fine moral impairments, but fine motor ones? Nah.

JMO

 
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IMO

There are people out there with tens of thousands of zombie social media accounts that almost immediately switch their names and pictures as soon as a suspect is announced. either by human intervention or automation. IMO it was an account with BK's name and face following the accounts but it was likely done by a spammer, again MOO.

They'll wait until they get enough followers and typically sell the boosted account or switch the name and start spamming. This is why we saw hundreds of fake BK accounts shortly after the murders up until Meta started banning them.

MOO
 
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