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Snipped by me--to clarify--the court has not said that there was unlawful use of IGG.
MTS Arrest Facts
Thanks. Could you be clearer on what your interpretation is of Logsden's argument,? I cannot access the criminal complaint doc attributed to PA. There was a fugitive from justice warrant that was executed. Is it attached to this MTS or not? So in summary is it your interpretation Logsden is arguing BK was not arrested at 4am on the basis of that FFJ warrant? Noting the premises search warrant and FFJ warrant are separate warrants serving separate purposes. Is it assumed the PA authorities mislead in their presser or is Logsden saying there was a technical mishap and FFJ warrant was not issued soon enough.? MooMTS Arrest Facts
On December 29, 2022, at 4:44 PM EDT (1:44 PDT), a Magistrate in Pennsylvania issued a search warrant for 119 Lamsden Dr., Chestnut Hill Twp., Monroe County, the home of Mr. Kohberger’s parents.
On December 29, 2022, at 2:22 PM PDT, the Magistrate in this matter signed an arrest warrant for Mr. Kohberger in Latah County. The affidavit for the warrant was signed by Moscow Police Department Cpl. Payne.
At 2:43 PM PDT on December 29, 2022, a criminal complaint and probable cause order were filed in this matter (this is ID)
On December 30, 2022, at 1:14 AM EDT (10:14 PM PDT), Pennsylvania SWAT raided Mr. Kohberger’s parents’ home. During the raid, law enforcement broke the door of home, held the entire family at gunpoint, and seized Mr. Kohberger
At 4:00 AM EDT on December 30, 2023, Pennsylvania State Police filed a criminal complaint against Mr. Kohberger. (this is a request for arrest or summons issue PA (page 3), arrest prior to requisition, approved by the attorney for the commonwealth (page1).
Affidavit in this request (page4): says BK was taken into custody based on an active Idaho arrest warrant.
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§ 9134. Arrest prior to requisition.
Whenever any person within this Commonwealth shall be charged on the oath of any credible person before any judge or issuing authority of this Commonwealth with the commission of any crime in any other state, and, except in cases arising under section 9127 (relating to extradition of persons not present in demanding state at time of commission of crime) with having fled from justice or with having been convicted of a crime in that state and having escaped from confinement or having broken the terms of his bail, probation or parole, or whenever complaint shall have been made before any judge or issuing authority in this Commonwealth, setting forth on the affidavit of any credible person in another state that a crime has been committed in such other state and that the accused has been charged in such state with the commission of the crime, and, except in cases arising under section 9127, has fled from justice or with having been convicted of a crime in that state and having escaped from confinement or having broken the terms of his bail, probation or parole and is believed to be in this Commonwealth, the judge or issuing authority shall issue a warrant directed to any peace officer commanding him to apprehend the person named therein wherever he may be found in this Commonwealth and to bring him before the same or any other judge or issuing authority who or which may be available in, or convenient of, access to the place where the arrest may be made to answer the charge or complaint and affidavit, and a certified copy of the sworn charge or complaint and affidavit upon which the warrant is issued shall be attached to the warrant.
PA search warrants/criminal complaint
JMO
ETA or summons to request for arrest PA
You're not reading the language as I am, at all. I've agreed to disagree with your interpretation, because as I've stated before I don't find it logical. MO
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My post did not say there was. I am only describing the allegations put forth in the docs by the defense. Again, we await Judge Hippler's interpretation of the information.
Agreed. My guess is, though, they may be looking at what he did in a vacuum removed from the context of the murders. There's nothing alarming to any reasonable person about someone driving down a city block or looking at their social media pages, or an individual's fanasizing or obsessing-- because nobody was aware this fantasizing or obsessing even existed, nobody but the person that ultimately became the murderer, who surely is never going to admit to it because he's insisting he's not the perp (because he doesn't want to face a firing squad). He has in reality murdererd, but he was not previously per se "stalking" in the legal context. Death or injury following behavior like his does not mean death or injury had to follow or was likely to follow such behavior in the mind of a reasonable person. The actions involved are probably too obtuse and removed from a per se stalking charge to stand. In the case mentioned by another poster that mentioned letters, the letters are concrete and may well have been alarming enough in their own right to conjure up a fear of death or physical injury in the mind of a reasonable person at the time. Someone driving down the block or viewing social media pages from a desk likely would not be.
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Re your questions, jmo none of the above?
I get what you're saying here, but they already had the legal "goods," so to speak, on the perp in this situation so they could go back and revisit the perp's behavior in that light. With BK, he's saying he didn't murder anyone and hasn't yet been convicted, so he's of course going to say there was no stalking, and any behavior looking like anything resembling anyone's definition of "stalking" will have some alternative and innocent explanation-- and there was no fantasizing or obsessing. MOO and speculation only, but I think the behaviors he engaged in were too obtuse without the context of murder and hindsight to make a case for legal "stalking" per se, and he is not yet convicted of the murders, so that's why right now, there's no per se "stalking." MOO.
Perfectly put and agree 100%
The timing is just my best guess ATM. Not at all sure what docs d is relying on and what docs, if any, were not included in the relevant MTS. Someone might scroll through the PA docket to see what's there if they were inclined lol. I'm more than done for the time being. Out of my depth.
This MTS argument was addressing the search of the parent's home and BKs statements prior to arrest. IMO the arrest warrant/search warrant/criminal complaint dates are included for the timing.
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This is the list of documents in PA - I don't see a seperate FFJ warrant. I looked this up b/c you mentioned it in your first post and to confirm the date/time.
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