AMBER ALERT ID - Allen Fischer, 13, Rachelle Fischer, 15, poss to Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints Mendon, UT, *religious beliefs*, 23 Jun 2025

[imstilla.grandma]

“I believe they could have been watching and it’s my guess that they were lingering around in the neighborhood somewhere waiting for a chance to grab the children,” Roundy explains. “I’ve seen their vehicles driving past my place, up and down the roads, even past the shop the kids got picked up at just barely on Friday.”

“Wherever they’re at, they’re in hiding. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re close by and waiting until things settle down,” Roundy says. “They hope things settle down a little, and then they’ll maybe take them (somewhere else).”

The concerned mother says she’s “kicking myself for letting them go like I did” as she’s been vigilantly watching and staying with her kids constantly for years. She’s especially concerned with revelations Warren Jeffs, the president of the FLDS Church, released saying FLDS children need to die so they can resurrect as pure beings.

“It’s very scary and a very big concern to me,” Roundy says. “Back when I was a part of it, things they were telling us to do were so erratic and manipulative. You just never know what they’re going to do.”

“I’m just so thankful for so many good people in the world that care,” Roundy says. “I’m very concerned about their well-being, and of course, I’m missing them very badly. I’m heartbroken they’re gone.”

'I'm very concerned.' Mother reveals fears after her teenagers vanish - East Idaho News

MONTEVIEW — Elizabeth Roundy returned from her family Bible class Sunday night and immediately knew something was wrong. She had been gone around two hours and her two teenagers, Allen Larand Fischer, 13, and Rachelle Leray Fischer, 15, were gone. “My children asked if they could go down to the...

www.eastidahonews.com

 

[GraceG]

The info about whether they may be in the stated car or not was already posted from the Sheriff's department but a supporting article from MSM. New details released on missing Idaho teenagers

 

[Serononin]

Roundy, a former FLDS member, reportedly told law enforcement she believes her children were taken in response to recent, alarming statements made by imprisoned FLDS leader Warren Jeffs. Jeffs, who is serving a life sentence in Texas for child sexual assault, has reportedly claimed recent "revelations" directing that FLDS children must die to be resurrected as "pure beings."

Holding Out HELP, a Utah-based non-profit helping people escape polygamous backgrounds, says that Jeffs and other FLDS church leaders have instructed followers to retrieve their children by "any means necessary" and prepare them for an impending "end of times." FLDS children are reportedly intended to "gather" to assist in building Zion, where they will then "die and become 'pure' and 'translated beings.'"

Mother fears missing Idaho teens taken by FLDS amidst disturbing revelations - Local News 8

Jefferson County Sheriff's Office is looking Allen Larand Fisher, 13, and Rachael Leray Fischer, 15. They were reported missing on Sunday, June 22, 2025.

localnews8.com

Holding out HELP, an organization dedicated to helping survivors of polygamy, believes the children may have been abducted as part of a revelation to members of the FLDS faith to prepare for the end of times by returning their children to the church in order to become “pure” and “translated beings.”

“The revelations say that within five years, the children will be translated to heaven. But the problem is… you have to die first,” Roger Hoole, an attorney involved in multiple FLDS cases, said.

Holding Out HELP - For Those Leaving Polygamy

HELP for those leaving polygamy. We are a on-profit organization in Utah that provides physical, emotional, and educational needs to help those transitioning from a polygamous background.

holdingouthelp.org

Just when I thought Warren Jeffs couldn't get any worse, jfc

 

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June 24, 2025 article

Sheriff's office unable to find evidence about car missing Idaho teens may have left in

The car believed to be involved in the disappearance of the Idaho teenagers reportedly never left Idaho.The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office has been "unable t

kutv.com

[…]

"At this time, we are unsure if they have left the immediate area or are still close by," the sheriff's office said.

[…]

 

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June 24, 2025 article

Sheriff's office unable to find evidence about car missing Idaho teens may have left in

The car believed to be involved in the disappearance of the Idaho teenagers reportedly never left Idaho.The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office has been "unable t

kutv.com

[…]

"At this time, we are unsure if they have left the immediate area or are still close by," the sheriff's office said.

[…]

That "church" of Latter Day Saints is a scary bunch. You really never know what they are going to do. What a way to live. MOO. Katt

 

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Idaho mother reveals fears after her teenagers vanish

Elizabeth Roundy believes Allen and Rachelle's older siblings, along with other members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were involved in abducting her teenagers.

www.ksl.com

 

[Bipolar Express]

If Warren Jeffs made a statement about killing kids then why the hell arent we doing raids on these people and taking kids from that situation????

 

[iamshadow21]

If Warren Jeffs made a statement about killing kids then why the hell arent we doing raids on these people and taking kids from that situation????

Historically, raids on these kinds of isolationist groups range from PR nightmares/embarrassments for LE (2008 YFZ ranch of FLDS based on hoax call - Link) to outright catastrophe (Waco).

What I would question is how Jeffs is able to communicate so freely and command things that overtly encourage violence against children without censorship to his followers from a high security facility.

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*Dates are important* *Anniversaries are important*
Rachelle & Allen disappeared JUNE 22, 2025
Article re: Elintra posted JUNE 22, 2023
Jeff's new revelations JUNE 2022
Coincidence?: I think not...

Another mother, Elizabeth Roundy, 49, agrees. She believes her daughter Elintra, who ran away on January 1, 2023, was told how to run away.

"I am positive that FLDS are hiding Elintra," Roundy said.

The church is best known for its prophet – Warren Jeffs – who was convicted in 2011 to life in prison for sexually assaulting girls as young as 12. But he remains the church's prophet from behind bars, according to experts and former members that ABC News spoke with.

Last year, experts say Jeffs began to release new revelations, or prophecies, which ABC News has obtained, including one last June that calls for children of ex-members to come back into the fold, and another in August calling for members of the FLDS to die in the next 5-1/2 years in order to reach heaven.

Roundy believes the case may connect to broader developments within the FLDS church. In 2022, Warren Jeffs, the sect's imprisoned leader, began issuing new "revelations," including one in June 2022 calling for children of ex-members to return to the fold, according to the messages, which ABC News obtained.

Experts of the FLDS church, as well as the mothers of the eight missing children, fear an event similar to Jonestown, when more than 900 people died in a murder-suicide orchestrated in 1978 by Jim Jones, leader of the Peoples Temple cult.

Former FLDS members fear their children's disappearance is part of Warren Jeffs' prophecy

Former members of FLDS fear their missing children are part of a suicide pact orchestrated from behind bars by the church's leader, Warren Jeffs.

abcnews.go.com

 

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"He wanted all the children, especially, to be consecrated back to the church," said former FLDS member Tonia Tewell.

Authorities say 24 of Jeffs' 78 wives were underage.

Now, Roundy believes Jeffs' so-called prophecy could mean plans for mass suicide in the sect, and worries that two more of her children are in danger.

"You just never know what they're gonna be told to do," Roundy said. "It's just ridiculous. Just right out manipulation to see what they can get away with basically."

Mother says religious, cult-like group could be at center of sudden disappearance of 2 Idaho teens

Rachelle Fischer, 15, and Allen Fischer 13, were last seen on the evening of Sunday, June 22, 2025, in Monteview, Idaho, according to the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office.

abc7chicago.com

“Their father’s been trying to get them away from me because I left the FLDS and he believes that I’m an apostate,” she said.

Amber Alert issued for missing Idaho teenagers feared to be with religious group in Utah - Local News 8

By Rebekah Riess and Taylor Romine, CNN (CNN) — Idaho State Police have issued an Amber Alert for two missing teenagers believed to be headed to a Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints group in Utah from eastern Idaho. Siblings Allen Larand Fischer, 13, and Rachelle Leray...

localnews8.com

 

[Tricia]

Hello my friends,
I am looking for anyone who is a former member of the FLDS church. I would like you to come on our YouTube livestream and discuss what life was like. You do not need to show your face or give your name publicly. Please email [email protected] or text or call 435-647-6896
Thank you,
Tricia

 

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That "church" of Latter Day Saints is a scary bunch. You really never know what they are going to do. What a way to live. MOO. Katt

I completely agree. (JMO) I do think it's worth clarifying that the phrase "Church of Latter-day Saints" is most frequently used as shorthand for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is the "LDS Church." The FLDS church/cult, which this family left, is a separate sect, dating back to a split after the LDS Church banned polygamy in the 1890s.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The reward is being offered by the Uvalde Foundation For Kids, a national nonprofit dedicated to advocacy and violence prevention.

Daniel Chapin, founder of the Uvalde Foundation For Kids, says that this case hits close to home for him, having had personal experience with a religious cult in Tennessee.

“There is a unique, particularly elusive form of psychological violence which we believe has been the force behind these two youth missing," said Chapin. "We believe they have been abducted by this highly dangerous, religious group and we will go to every means possible to locate and bring them home safely.”

National nonprofit offers $5k reward for missing Idaho teenagers

The Uvalde Foundation is offering $5,000 for information leading to the safe return of two teens missing from Jefferson County since June 22.

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*History and timeline updated Aug 2024:

https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/31/us/fundamentalist-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints-fast-facts

*“Their mother was previously an FLDS member,” Jennifer Fullmer, a public information officer with the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office, tells PEOPLE. “She was exiled and had to leave the children there. And then when she finally got custody of them, she brought them back to her hometown of Monteview.”

“We believe that [her children] wanted to go back to the FLDS lifestyle,” she says.

“There's no buses,” says Fullmer. “There's no trains. It's out in the middle of the desert. Mom's belief is that somebody from the FLDS picked up the children.”

“What the information we got was about this revelation that the children are supposed to gather to assist in the building of Zion so that they can die and become pure and translated beings,” says Fullman. “We don't have any concept of when, how quickly children should be gathered and brought back to the church so that they can die and become pure beings

Amber Alert for Missing Idaho Teens — and Mom Fears They're Heading to Fundamentalist Sect She Left Years Ago

Idaho authorities are looking for two teens who are linked to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

people.com

*Daniel Chapin, founder and national director of the Uvalde Foundation For Kids, has experience with religious extremist groups. As a teenager, he was brought into The Twelve Tribes Cult in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and eventually had to be rescued by family and friends.

"This case hits home to me on a personal and a foundational level," Chapin said in a news release. "There is a unique, particularly elusive form of psychological violence which we believe has been the force behind these two youth missing. We believe they have been abducted by this highly dangerous, religious group, and we will go to every means possible to locate and bring them home safely."

Reward now being offered for return of missing Idaho teenagers

A reward is now being offered for the safe return of two missing Jefferson County, Idaho, teenagers.

www.ksl.com

*"It encourages them to gather their followers, and they get to become translated beings, but they must die first, and then they'll be risen like Jesus Christ in two to three days and made pure," Tonia Tewell, executive director of Holding out HELP, a group that supports people leaving polygamous groups, told ABC4

Missing teens feared to have returned to polygamous group—sheriff

Law enforcement in Idaho issued an Amber Alert after teenagers Allen Larand Fischer and Rachelle Leray Fischer went missing.

www.newsweek.com

*'It's a five-year revelation. We're three years into it. And so I think she [Roundy] is worried that her kid's life may be taken at the end of the day.'

Jeffs' influence, according to some experts, mirrors that of infamous cult leaders like Jim Jones and David Koresh - radical figures who led followers to mass death under the guise of spiritual purity.

The case of Allen and Rachelle may not be isolated. Holding Out HELP and other advocacy organizations report an uptick in missing youth linked to FLDS enclaves, often tied to disturbing new teachings that reframe death as a path to redemption.

Idaho teens 'taken' from home part of terrifying PROPHECY, mom claims

Two Idaho teens vanished Sunday, and their mother believes they were taken by extremist group following a chilling prophecy from imprisoned cult leader Warren Jeffs.

www.dailymail.co.uk

*mom speaks with Nate about Elintra's disappearance 8 months ago:

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The Uvalde Foundation for Kids says it’s adding search efforts out of its Tuscon, Arizona chapter after a tip suggested the teens may be headed to Fredonia.

The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office in Idaho told ABC4.com that it is unaware of any information that would lead their investigation to Fredonia.

*Why Fredonia?​

Officials with the foundation say an “overnight tip” is leading search parties to continue their search in the small Arizona town. They say they’ve learned of several cases, since Nov. 2024, of FLDS youth going missing in Utah before being relocated to Fredonia.

In a separate case, on Sept. 1, 2024, three children were found living with members of the FLDS Church in Fredonia, which lies just 10 minutes south of Kanab, Utah. The recovery operation was conducted by police agencies from both Arizona and Utah.

Prior to their recovery, the children had been missing for over two years from Beaver, Utah. Fredonia Police Department suspected the father, along with help from members of the FLDS Church, had orchestrated their disappearance

https://www.abc4.com/news/missing-in-utah/search-two-idaho-teens-flds-church-arizona/

 

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The Uvalde Foundation for Kids says it’s adding search efforts out of its Tuscon, Arizona chapter after a tip suggested the teens may be headed to Fredonia.

The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office in Idaho told ABC4.com that it is unaware of any information that would lead their investigation to Fredonia.

*Why Fredonia?​

Officials with the foundation say an “overnight tip” is leading search parties to continue their search in the small Arizona town. They say they’ve learned of several cases, since Nov. 2024, of FLDS youth going missing in Utah before being relocated to Fredonia.

In a separate case, on Sept. 1, 2024, three children were found living with members of the FLDS Church in Fredonia, which lies just 10 minutes south of Kanab, Utah. The recovery operation was conducted by police agencies from both Arizona and Utah.

Prior to their recovery, the children had been missing for over two years from Beaver, Utah. Fredonia Police Department suspected the father, along with help from members of the FLDS Church, had orchestrated their disappearance

https://www.abc4.com/news/missing-in-utah/search-two-idaho-teens-flds-church-arizona/

Ugh. I was in Fredonia last month. Wierd.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Ugh. I was in Fredonia last month. Wierd.

...and from the link in the referenced post might be a telling tip:
Police also apprehended the children’s grandmother and aunt who “appeared to be overseeing the children,” the release states

 

[jillolantern]

That "church" of Latter Day Saints is a scary bunch. You really never know what they are going to do. What a way to live. MOO. Katt

I would just suggest that people educate themselves. What is mostly being discussed here is the FLDS, not the LDS. To just make such a broad statement is pretty shocking. One can hide behind MOO but I hope people making and reading such comments are educated rather than just making uneducated assumptions. IMO