ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #17

[iluvmua]

4 hours??? yeah, I'm going to say he was already gone by the time Jessica made that 911 call.

jmo

 

[Beezneez]

Just thinking out loud here- on google maps the road from Idaho Falls to Leadore follows along the Snake river for the first 30 minutes or so. Mud Lake (Jefferson County- there are several Mud Lakes in Idaho) is just off the way, maybe 50 minutes into the trip. The one way trip from IF to Leadore is 1 hour 50 minutes. Mud Lake has one inlet (the Snake) and no outlets- it's shallow and used for irrigation collection. Has there been any mention of searching this area?
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Ida...5aae776524aecf!2m2!1d-113.358091!2d44.6802005
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_Lake_(Jefferson_County,_Idaho)

 

[desert-blue]

I wish Isaac had been able to say more about the last time he saw DeOrr. It would also be helpful to hear from the GGPA. If the window is 4 hours, then I am going to assume that someone saw DeOrr alive on the morning of the 10th. I wonder what condition he was in.

I think that whatever happened to DeOrr, it happened before the store visit. It seems like getting the store receipt (to "prove" DeOrr was alive and with them) may have been the last step for them before they drove back to the campground and "noticed" he was missing and called 911.

I don't feel that they left DeOrr with GGPA and Isaac when they went to the store. I think DeOrr went with them, but whether he was alive, injured, or deceased is anyone's guess.


I guess the other option is that maybe the store receipt time stamp is much earlier than we've been told - maybe it's at like 10:00, in which case, there would be a lot of unaccounted time after the visit the store. I don't know what to think. (other than I wish we knew the time stamp!).

 

[iluvmua]

I remember reading in an article that the store clerk can't remember if she saw Deorr or not but remembers hearing the parents talk about him. So maybe he was not at the store with them.

jmo

 

[Onebest]

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Well, I hope someone is monitoring JM. This is a hideous situation and no matter what happened we need to know the truth. She is one of the keys and so for that reason I am hoping she is not dealing with this alone and to her own devices. JK now has an attorney for what that is worth, and she does not. Her decision making seems questionable at least from the outside looking in, I have not a clue what she is in person. I honestly believe no matter what she has or has not done, IF the trust is to come out she needs to be helped and supported to move in that direction. And by help, I DON"T mean telling her she is all right and everyone else is all wrong. It might seem odd to some but that is my opinion if the truth is to come forward. JMO

 

[pappa rob]

It sounds to me like somebodies just stirring the pot. No new information just innuendo and assumptions. Give me some hard new facts...

 

[iluvmua]

Can someone clue me in as to why the 17 minutes are so important and what is with the 4 hours?

Thank U

 

[iluvmua]

I have a feeling JM and DK are no longer together. IMO only! Nothing to back that up.

They are no longer friends on facebook, so I would assume so.

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

They are no longer friends on facebook, so I would assume so.

If they are no longer together, that speaks volumes to me.

 

[iluvmua]

Correct me if I'm wrong: the 4 hours is when they (JM & DK) last saw him to the time the first 911 call came in? is this correct?

 

[kimi_SFC]

It sounds to me like somebodies just stirring the pot. No new information just innuendo and assumptions. Give me some hard new facts...

Taking a virtual seat next to you on this one pappa rob.

:gathering:

#JusticeForLittleDeOrr!!!



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[relay]

They are no longer friends on facebook, so I would assume so.

As of right now JM and DKS are facebook friends on JM's new facebook page.

 

[Beezneez]

There is a break in the timeline that Deorr was last seen by parents, according to the statements given and shared with the public. Apparently it covers the time spent looking for him before calling 911. Initially it was determined to be 17 minutes. Yesterday it was announced by PI Klein that the window was opened up to 4 hours. It is not known how these exact times are determined, but the time of the 911 call and the timestamp on the receipt from Leadorre are likely good indicators, in my opinion. Whether there is a four hour difference in time between the two or how that four hour window when the baby is not accounted for is not clear.

 

[FinallyRegistered]

Here's my theory:
Mom, dad, & baby go to the store in their truck, get food stuffs, and then head back to camp.
According to dad's interview, it was near baby's naptime.
Baby fell asleep in the truck during the drive.
Mom & dad don't want to wake baby, so they leave baby to sleep in the truck and leave the doors open so baby doesn't get too hot.
Mom & dad go down to the water.
GGP notices the truck doors open and shuts them.
Mom and dad return to camp.
According to dad's interview, baby's blanket, sippy cup, and toys were found in the truck - items he never goes without.
Dad got rid of the body during his call to 911.

 

[ILOKAL]

Can someone clue me in as to why the 17 minutes are so important and what is with the 4 hours?

Thank U

No one knows, but it might be discrepancies in all of the POI's timelines up until Jessica placed the 911 call. For example, IR wouldn't answer those questions and we don't know why. From the "witnesses" Klein purports to be interviewing, the whereabouts of all the parties may be different than what the POI's originally told and their various whereabouts from about 10:30 on all need to be reinvestigated. JMOO

 

[Deleted member 718]

http://www.localnews8.com/news/deor...d-at-the-campground-hasnt-cooperated/37525180
Jan 25, 2016


At 2:10 in this video, the reporter states Klein said he was hired by Deorr's grandfather.

We don't know which grandfather though. By hired I guess the grandfather signed the contract. Numerous others have contributed monies.

 

[iluvmua]

nobody would wait 4 hours to call 911 if thier child is missing. that means they had a 4 hour headstart to get rid of evidence and possibly little deorr's body.

These two "Parents" make my blood boil. jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Here's my theory:
Mom, dad, & baby go to the store in their truck, get food stuffs, and then head back to camp.
According to dad's interview, it was near baby's naptime.
Baby fell asleep in the truck during the drive.
Mom & dad don't want to wake baby, so they leave baby to sleep in the truck and leave the doors open so baby doesn't get too hot.
Mom & dad go down to the water.
GGP notices the truck doors open and shuts them.
Mom and dad return to camp.
According to dad's interview, baby's blanket, sippy cup, and toys were found in the truck - items he never goes without.
Dad got rid of the body during his call to 911.

This could very well be what happened.

It also could be why LE is asking for people to come forward who have witnessed them as parents - were they known to have left him in the car in the past?

 

[desert-blue]

Here's my theory:
Mom, dad, & baby go to the store in their truck, get food stuffs, and then head back to camp.
According to dad's interview, it was near baby's naptime.
Baby fell asleep in the truck during the drive.
Mom & dad don't want to wake baby, so they leave baby to sleep in the truck and leave the doors open so baby doesn't get too hot.
Mom & dad go down to the water.
GGP notices the truck doors open and shuts them.
Mom and dad return to camp.
According to dad's interview, baby's blanket, sippy cup, and toys were found in the truck - items he never goes without.
Dad got rid of the body during his call to 911.

Seems very plausible. Not sure why Klein would be questioning intent if this was the scenario, but I'm not sure I believe everything he says.... I think his statements have ulterior motives...

 

[scmom]

http://www.localnews8.com/news/deor...d-at-the-campground-hasnt-cooperated/37525180
Jan 25, 2016


At 2:10 in this video, the reporter states Klein said he was hired by Deorr's grandfather.

We don't know which grandfather though. By hired I guess the grandfather signed the contract. Numerous others have contributed monies.

Yes, hired by the baby's grandfather but the client is baby DeOrr. So who does the PI report to?