ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - # 25

[MzOpinion8d]

Thanks, yes i have been following and understand the parents have now been named suspects. Normally after LE name someone a "suspect" doesn't that usually follow through with charges?
As far as polys go they are unreliable and inadmissable in court. I certainly hope LE have more than that against the parents to call them suspects and consequently charge them?

It's not just the NINE failed polygraph exams, it's their actual WORDS that have come from their mouths that are never the same that cause LE to say they are being less than truthful and name them as suspects.

 

[lauriej]

Thanks, yes i have been following and understand the parents have now been named suspects. Normally after LE name someone a "suspect" doesn't that usually follow through with charges?
As far as polys go they are unreliable and inadmissable in court. I certainly hope LE have more than that against the parents to call them suspects and consequently charge them?

BBM

Not neccessarily.

LE carries on collecting evidence ( that we may or may not be made aware of ) until they feel they have either enough, or all they're going to get-----present it to the DA who will decide if it's sufficient for charges/prosecution, if so, LE then makes the arrest(s).

If all they've got is what we're aware of ----( but I doubt it, LE generally holds back info --we see it later once arrest(s) are made and cases proceed to trial.)---- then we're nowhere close to the arrest stage yet.

Hopefully the search phase in the Spring will produce what LE is looking for.

 

[Karinna]

She said "It's hard to even leave my house to go get gas..." so the implication is that she is leaving her house to go get some gas by herself.

She's most definitely not with her husband buying anything, since she's divorced and hasn't remarried.

Perhaps she hasn't been getting gas on her own since she was, let's say grounded, for that little license issue.

Aren't couples in the U.S. considered in a Defacto relationship if they have been living together for a few years and having children together? I think it is otherwise known as common law husband & wife, but maybe there is no such law in the U.S.?
I have no idea really if JM is driving her vehicle if she has one & putting gas in it, but it doesn't really matter to me anyway.

 

[Karinna]

BBM

Not neccessarily.

LE carries on collecting evidence ( that we may or may not be made aware of ) until they feel they have either enough, or all they're going to get-----present it to the DA who will decide if it's sufficient for charges/prosecution, if so, LE then makes the arrest(s).

If all they've got is what we're aware of ----( but I doubt it, LE generally holds back info --we see it later once arrest(s) are made and cases proceed to trial.)---- then we're nowhere close to the arrest stage yet.

Hopefully the search phase in the Spring will produce what LE is looking for.

Well there was mention of LE bringing charges against the parents so guess it's a matter of wait and see and when? LE can arrest & charge while continuing to build a case against said perps as well as it has happened in other cases.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

I just didn't recall previous coverage by CB...I must've missed it! But I remembered CH publishing something about.

Sorry, I think wires are getting crossed? I am saying CB did very little coverage on the Deorr case until the last month where all of a sudden she exploded with FB Q&A's, interviews and video diaries on the case. Just look at her Facebook timeline.

I was interested in what prompted her sudden upsurge of activity. I would guess one reason was because the Klein situation was getting out of hand? Also I posted this article at the beginning of March http://www.eastidahonews.com/2016/0...stions-youve-asked-about-the-deorr-kunz-case/ it stood out to me because it reads very defensive and not really about Deorr at all. EIN/NE now also seem to have taken a step back from the case too?

Maybe its just me that's seeing this!?

 

[La Louve]

Idaho does not recognize common law marriages formed after January 1, 1996. Wilkins v. Wilkins, 137 Idaho 315, 48 P.3d 644 (2002); I.C. §§ 32-201, -301.

https://www.isc.idaho.gov/jury/.../ICJI_911.doc

 

[Karinna]

https://www.isc.idaho.gov/jury/.../ICJI_911.doc

Thankyou for the clarification.

 

[Rayemonde]

Sorry, I think wires are getting crossed? I am saying CB did very little coverage on the Deorr case until the last month where all of a sudden she exploded with FB Q&A's, interviews and video diaries on the case. Just look at her Facebook timeline.

I was interested in what prompted her sudden upsurge of activity. I would guess one reason was because the Klein situation was getting out of hand? Also I posted this article at the beginning of March http://www.eastidahonews.com/2016/0...stions-youve-asked-about-the-deorr-kunz-case/ it stood out to me because it reads very defensive and not really about Deorr at all. EIN/NE now also seem to have taken a step back from the case too?

Maybe its just me that's seeing this!?

The parents have probably threatened to sue them or something... Remember the Cease and Desist letters they sent out to facebook hate groups, back before they were named suspects?

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

The parents have probably threatened to sue them or something... Remember the Cease and Desist letters they sent out to facebook hate groups, back before they were named suspects?

Possibly. Look at the last two paragraphs in the EIN link I posted:

Everyone has treated me and EastIdahoNews.com with respect and we have not received any major complaints from any of the key players about our coverage.

The investigators should be applauded for their hard work. They are consistent, focused and want to find DeOrr. That’s the same reason we are committed to continued coverage this case – we simply want DeOrr to be found. And until he is, our coverage won’t stop.

Something definitely happened here....I'm just not sure what or by who.

 

[MBK]

I don't know, I'm not privy to his exact health problems and mental state, but what I do know is he is still classed as a victim in this case on websleuths, and as such we should not sleuth him or accuse him of anything. The parents, however, are officially named suspects so those rules don't apply to them. SB could have named GGP a suspect, but he chose not to, and he has much more information than us. So I'm trusting SB, and giving ggp the full benefit of the doubt.

Yes, and I think that he has the propensity to become an even bigger victim. I hope that someone "neutral", so to speak, is checking up on him to make sure that he is, indeed, taking and being given medications that are needed, that he is going to the doctor for check-ups, etc., etc. I had mentioned in another post that the tiny town I am from has an advocate for the elderly who looks our for their best interests. If there are people in a similar position in GGP's town or in the area, then they are checking in on GGP's welfare. Maybe, just maybe, he needs someone to be a voice for him.

 

[Tr.]

http://m.localnews8.com/news/exclus...nded-interview-with-chelsea-brentzel/38478346

My interview interpretations:

- JM knows where Deorr is and it is far away. She hopes that he is o.k.
- "They" did not want to leave there without him...but they had to.
- JM knows that something happened to Deorr that only VDK knows the truth about.
- She wants to know that truth.

- VDK feels responsible for Deorr's demise.
- He too knows where Deorr is and the location is in the area of the mountain.
- He knows that JM can out him and he fears that.
- VDK knows that JM likes chicken nuggets with her fries.

 

[MBK]

Do they EVER call him by NAME in that interview? Doesn't seem to me that they did. Always "my son", "he", etc.

The way that GGP is mentioned is also distancing "a trusted and respected adult" (ummmm . . . who also is your "fiancée's" GRANDFATHER!)

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

I learned something new today. Here is a pic of the socks Deorr was wearing when he "disappeared". Why did it take eight months so learn this?

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/29726

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The boots picture isn't of him. It's his brother.

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

Why do some people think GGP has to talk to the public? Why does his silence bother people?

 

[MBK]

Why do some people think GGP has to talk to the public? Why does his silence bother people?

If he's being "kept quiet" . .. kept under watch . .. kept away from friends . .. kept from driving the car . . .

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

If he's being "kept quiet" . .. kept under watch . .. kept away from friends . .. kept from driving the car . . .

He talked to LE and the FBI. That's good enough for me. For all we know, he could have retained an attorney months ago and has been told to keep his mouth shut. In this age of transparency brought about by the electronic age, we think we need to know all about all.

 

[Jamaica Me Crazy]

This is from the NAMUS page. These are the pajama bottoms he was wearing. I think he looks a lot younger in this picture. Do any of you? I'm asking because would he still have been able to wear these eight months ago? (I also don't think the birthmark picture is of him.)

 

[Openminded]

Well most elder people have memory problems and yes it can be frustrating to not remember finer details, but a little boy is missing and GGP was okay with his memory by giving that statement to LE, so why didn't he just say " i have memory probs. and can't remember" if he is so vague?

The sheriff said GGP tends to agree with what's been said. That indicates to me something considerably more serious than "memory problems". Yes, I might forget on occasion where I put my keys but that's obviously not the same as forgetting what happened to my grandson while he was with me. It's not a question of "finer details" -- apparently he just doesn't remember much (if anything) at all and LE knew his poly wouldn't be useful because of that.

As to why he hasn't spoken out, perhaps he's gone downhill in the last eight months and his ability to remember is even less than it was when this happened. LE has his story. If he's uncomfortable putting that out there for the public, he obviously doesn't have to.

 

[MBK]

He talked to LE and the FBI. That's good enough for me. For all we know, he could have retained an attorney months ago and has been told to keep his mouth shut. In this age of transparency brought about by the electronic age, we think we need to know all about all.

True, and he's from another generation.
However, the distanced way he is mentioned, albeit briefly, "a trusted a respected adult", is very strange. It might be the way that they would talk if, let's say, Deorr was in daycare, and "went missing" from there . . . It's a whole new way of throwing GGP under the bus, just a bit. I mean, not even mentioning that he is Deorr's great-grandfather . ..

 

[MBK]

This is from the NAMUS page. These are the pajama bottoms he was wearing. I think he looks a lot younger in this picture. Do any of you? I'm asking because would he still have been able to wear these eight months ago? (I also don't think the birthmark picture is of him.)

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YES!!!! THANK YOU!!!! Great point! While you can't say that these PJ's are tight, if I look at the photos of the Deorr in the restaurant, he is a much larger and mature looking little boy (is that even Deorr in the PJ's???) I DOUBT that those PJ bottoms would fit.