ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #27

[ZooSleuth]

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We also know that PI Klein and PI Vilt were both hired by family and both were fired. Both have publicly stated their suspicions wrt little Deorr's parents. IMO this seems contrary to your opinion that Klein has presented a skewed opinion due to financial interest. Would have been much more in his/their financial interest to publicly support the parents while continuing to receive money.

According to Vilt, he left on his own accord and was not fired. Remember that letter that leaked from Vilt to the parents where he removed himself from the case? The family may say different, but I don't trust a thing they say.

 

[Boxzer96]

http://www.ktvb.com/news/toy-cars-camo-jacket-found-in-deorr-kunz-jr-case/275711120

 

[Sillybilly]

According to Vilt, he left on his own accord and was not fired. Remember that letter that leaked from Vilt to the parents where he removed himself from the case? The family may say different, but I don't trust a thing they say.

Thanks for that ZooSleuth. I was remembering that the parents said they had fired him and forgotten what Vilt had said.

from:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...round-10-July-2015-17&p=12314929#post12314929

02:57
FV: Well, because they spread the rumor they fired me, uh, and that&#8217;s not true, and I got that from the guys making the documentary on missing children. They told me that Deorr and Jessica told them that they dismissed me &#8211; that they fired me.

 

[Mickshawn]

With all due respect all we know is Klein "said" VDK's story was fabricated. We don't know that it was, it is not an established fact, it is an opinion of someone who has a valid financial interest in giving skewed opinion as facts.

What we KNOW about that day is very little. We KNOW four adults and one child went to Timber Creek CG Thursday evening. We KNOW 2 adults and the child went to Leadore sometime mid-day on Friday (date & time stamped receipt). We KNOW that not long after they returned to the camp site there were three 911 calls made. We KNOW the child is missing.

So what we KNOW and what we think/believe/feel are facts are not really because 1) we weren't there & 2) LE has not made a conclusion yet in this matter. When LE does they will let the public know. Anything else is pure speculation on incomplete information.

Butler, I respectfully disagree with some of your statements about what we KNOW. Of the things you mention, we KNOW 3 911 calls were made and we KNOW a child is missing. Perhaps the adults were in all these places but we DON'T KNOW that the child was with them.

 

[Deleted member 278]

Watch video.
cars were found in a bag that was in another bag in a couch.

http://kboi2.com/news/local/investigators-find-missing-jacket-toys-at-deorr-kunzs-old-apartment

 

[neesaki]

Watch video.
cars were found in a bag that was in another bag in a couch.

http://kboi2.com/news/local/investigators-find-missing-jacket-toys-at-deorr-kunzs-old-apartment

Omg, they were hiding them ? Then they just left them behind ? WTH....

 

[mommylicious]

Watch video.
cars were found in a bag that was in another bag in a couch.

http://kboi2.com/news/local/investigators-find-missing-jacket-toys-at-deorr-kunzs-old-apartment

I can't watch any videos with this little guy's picture without crying. I just want to scoop him up and hold him tight, keep him safe. It sounds like they believe the cars and jacket found are THE cars and jacket that were described as missing. I'm guessing that the credit card and insurance tracker were in the bag with them and that's what the fuss about those is - the seeming attempt to hide them, too.

 

[boston5]

I can't watch any videos with this little guy's picture without crying. I just want to scoop him up and hold him tight, keep him safe. It sounds like they believe the cars and jacket found are THE cars and jacket that were described as missing. I'm guessing that the credit card and insurance tracker were in the bag with them and that's what the fuss about those is - the seeming attempt to hide them, too.

Really good point that you bring up about the credit card and insurance tracker. I wish they could have been more specific about where those two items were found. If they were all hiding together in the same bag, then it seems to me that it is important.

 

[neesaki]

Really good point that you bring up about the credit card and insurance tracker. I wish they could have been more specific about where those two items were found. If they were all hiding together in the same bag, then it seems to me that it is important.

Maybe the bag of cars was inside the other bag along with the other items hiding out in the couch. Now I'm waiting to hear what that credit card was used for, and who used it, and what size that camo jacket is. And now I'm wondering where the boots are.

 

[charminglane]

I was reading about insurance tracker devices.
Some of them use text message.

 

[Lillahazel]

Watch video.
cars were found in a bag that was in another bag in a couch.

http://kboi2.com/news/local/investigators-find-missing-jacket-toys-at-deorr-kunzs-old-apartment

Staching a bag in a couch seems like something someone would do if they knew their every move outside closed doors was being watched and also knew they were going to have their house searched.

 

[Lillahazel]

Maybe the bag of cars was inside the other bag along with the other items hiding out in the couch. Now I'm waiting to hear what that credit card was used for, and who used it, and what size that camo jacket is. And now I'm wondering where the boots are.

Maybe the card belongs to whomever the person is that Klein publically reached out to on one of his posts?

 

[Mickshawn]

Staching a bag in a couch seems like something someone would do if they knew their every move outside closed doors was being watched and also knew they were going to have their house searched.

Wasn't it reported that the landlord cleaned out the house and all the contents were sitting next to a dumpster outside?

 

[Inthedetails]

Watch video.
cars were found in a bag that was in another bag in a couch.

http://kboi2.com/news/local/investigators-find-missing-jacket-toys-at-deorr-kunzs-old-apartment

IN the couch? IN it?!

Now would be a good time to fess up to the truth of what happened.

And, can anyone clue me in to what an insurance tracker is? TIA

 

[neesaki]

Maybe the card belongs to whomever the person is that Klein publically reached out to on one of his posts?

I must've missed that post. But wouldn't they know who used the card, since they said a family friend?

 

[Deleted member 278]

Wasn't it reported that the landlord cleaned out the house and all the contents were sitting next to a dumpster outside?

yes but I don't think all the contents were there

 

[Deleted member 278]

I must've missed that post. But wouldn't they know who used the card, since they said a family friend?

who knows what cockamamie story they told Klein

 

[Paulas88]

The credit card is strange. Why would they have someone else's card? Wouldn't this someone want the card back?

 

[Lillahazel]

Wasn't it reported that the landlord cleaned out the house and all the contents were sitting next to a dumpster outside?

Yes, the bag was found in the pile of stuff after the eviction but Butler pointed out that their place was searched right after he disappeared. Seems like something that could have been missed if it was in several bags and hidden in a couch.

 

[Lillahazel]

I must've missed that post. But wouldn't they know who used the card, since they said a family friend?

I'm sure they do know I was just trying to guess who it might be.