ID - DeOrr Kunz, Jr., 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #28

[Inthedetails]

For those who have been following cases for years (OK, anybody!), what's your gut feeling here? Will this get resolved??

I think the truth will eventually come out, continually at this p a i n f u l l y s l o w pace....but either someone will break tell the truth or will screw up and the truth will emerge. I do think the case will be resolved.

Once the truth comes out, I think the whole story will fall into place quickly. And, the person who finally breaks/makes a mistake will be relieved. The other person, not so much.

just my (hopeful) opinion

 

[seventeenseconds]

Imo... gross parental neglect


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[katydid23]

I don't know what to think about the resolution of this case. :fence:

There are so many previous ones where it seemed that the case was just about to be resolved. And then ....crickets..... Dylan Redwine, Hailey Dunn, Isabel Celis....the little baby girl at home with her father, his girlfriend and her baby and his mother...I cant believe I forgot the precious baby's name...

 

[The Apparition]

I don't know what to think about the resolution of this case. :fence:

There are so many previous ones where it seemed that the case was just about to be resolved. And then ....crickets..... Dylan Redwine, Hailey Dunn, Isabel Celis....the little baby girl at home with her father, his girlfriend and her baby and his mother...I cant believe I forgot the precious baby's name...

I think you might mean baby Ayla? I also wonder how the father (JD) can still walk among the free. I'd like to "accidentally" fall down a staircase with him and see if he fares better than his daughter did. How a man who broke his kids arm and let her disappear is free truly baffles the mind.

 

[Groundwork]

I see similarities to the Haleigh Cummings case, and unfortunately I think the 'outcome' might be the same...no answers, no justice.

 

[Karinna]

For those who have been following cases for years (OK, anybody!), what's your gut feeling here? Will this get resolved??

I certainly hope so, and i think Deorr's case will be resolved one day. Every missing child deserves to be found and properly laid to rest if they are deceased, if for no one else but the family members that did love them in life and still love them and miss them, and at least go to that resting place to put flowers and to have that closure that they have been found.

 

[Karinna]

I think you might mean baby Ayla? I also wonder how the father (JD) can still walk among the free. I'd like to "accidentally" fall down a staircase with him and see if he fares better than his daughter did. How a man who broke his kids arm and let her disappear is free truly baffles the mind.

Oh little Ayla Reynolds is such a sad case, and i agree with what you say about JDP. I prayed for a long time she would be found for her mommy's sake. My heart goes out to her,

 

[KatieLiz]

Klein certainly has kept us on the edge our seat waiting for any information in which to glean more information. I ponder is it fair to deem the parents guilty of maliciously having something to do with sweet Deorr's disappearance with no concrete evidence. What if you were in this situation, and you were lambasted because you did not explain your statements and observations In a way that they could not be twisted....
All I am trying to relay is that we should treat others as you would want to be treated- and- but for the grace of God go I.

Y'all can beat me up- have at it.😀

I won't beat you up for that. You sound like a good person.

Personally, I ALWAYS give people the benefit of the doubt. And I almost never assume someone is guilty until they have their day in court. I gave Jessica and Vernal all the room in the world to make this right. They had my compassion, sympathy, and understanding from day 1. But then it got very hard to "understand", because their stories kept changing and making no sense. I lost my sympathy when they didn't appear to be grieving as hard as we strangers were grieving. I even tried to give them the benefit of the doubt when they were named as suspects. But in my opinion, it is not us who have convicted thems. It is them, their actions, their behaviours... Their lack of ANYTHING a normal parent would do in the case of a missing child. They brought suspicion on themselves.

To me, they are the ones who have shown their true colours. They could be pleading their innocence. They could be freaking out and scheduling interviews with any news source in the country to defend themselves and get Deorr's face and name out there. But they aren't. We can't change the way we think about them without THEM trying to change it. We have made our judgements based solely on their actions. Hell, we even tried to prove that their son could have been taken by a mountain lion or a Sasquatch! We TRIED to believe them. Unfortunately, it proved impossible.

I hate that I think they are guilty. I WISH they were innocent, grieving parents. I wish...

 

[KatieLiz]

Yes, the whole thread on Chelsea Brentzel KIFI KIDK FB page appears to have been deleted sometime last night.
Chesea's original post was that people had been messaging her, asking if it was true that the Washington DC FBI was involved in the case.
She checked with Deputy Penner of LCSO and said that no, it was not true.
She went on to say that the regional FBI continues on the case. (Office in Pocatello, regional headquarters is Salt Lake City.)
Posters questioned why she was making this post, who was making the rumors about the DC FBI, and why was it relevant.
Chelsea responded that she was trying to answer the rumors, and that it was relevant because: something to the effect of: an organization involved in the case was stating the rumors.
Posters then wanted to know what organization? They speculated that it was Klein, or one of the parent supporter FB pages.
Then there was a back-and-forth between Chelsea and posters about various places people get information about the case. Chelsea talked about how reporters do sometimes join various groups to get info. Some posters didn't think that was right.
About this time I thought, I don't think this is what Chelsea had in mind when she made the post.
Then it was gone. IMO, she was referring to Klein group as where the rumor about the FBI was coming from. I could be wrong. If anyone else saw the thread and correct what I've said, please do.
ETA: There was also a post by a relative of one of the suspects, saying that their relative was not a liar. Other posters responded with well reasoned rebuttals. :winko:

Thanks for recapping.

I saw all this too and thought she was referring to Klein as well, but when I went and scrolled his page I couldn't find any comment by him referring to Washington FBI, which made me think maybe she wasn't referring to him. But I obviously could have missed it on his page. I didn't thoroughly read every single thing by any means.

Has anyone else found reference to different FBI offices in any of Kleins posts? It's not a big deal, but would question the credibility of whoever said it if it's not true. Hopefully it didn't come from Klein.

 

[Angiebla]

For those who have been following cases for years (OK, anybody!), what's your gut feeling here? Will this get resolved??

I was really hoping this case was going to be resolved by now. But, that was under the assumption that he wandered away from the campsite, and fell into the nearby creek.

I want to remain optimistic, but I think this case is going to go cold. That's just my opinion though.


I have a question for anyone who knows the answer: Vernal said his dog (Missy I believe is the dogs name) was tied to the back bumper and Deorr Jr. was playing with her at some point. Has there been any news regarding Missy and her whereabouts today? I think it's very unusual that dog(s) werent mentioned for a long time. I also don't see a point in bringing a dog to a campground that can't stay in the local area without running off.

 

[boston5]

I was really hoping this case was going to be resolved by now. But, that was under the assumption that he wandered away from the campsite, and fell into the nearby creek.

I want to remain optimistic, but I think this case is going to go cold. That's just my opinion though.


I have a question for anyone who knows the answer: Vernal said his dog (Missy I believe is the dogs name) was tied to the back bumper and Deorr Jr. was playing with her at some point. Has there been any news regarding Missy and her whereabouts today? I think it's very unusual that dog(s) werent mentioned for a long time. I also don't see a point in bringing a dog to a campground that can't stay in the local area without running off.

I can only comment to your last sentence. We go camping often and brings our lab. We tie our lab up often, even though he won't go five feet from us.
I don't see how the dog could be involved though. Wouldn't you just say it was a dog accident and shoot the dog?? Why all of the cover up for a dog??


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[Angiebla]

I can only comment to your last sentence. We go camping often and brings our lab. We tie our lab up often, even though he won't go five feet from us.
I don't see how the dog could be involved though. Wouldn't you just say it was a dog accident and shoot the dog?? Why all of the cover up for a dog??


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thank you for answering my question.

I don't think the dog hurt Deorr in any way, I'm just wondering why they failed to mention her for so long. If anything, I would think the dog was possibly tied to the back of the car, and perhaps accidently backed over. It would just be interesting to know how she is doing.

 

[The Apparition]

thank you for answering my question.

I don't think the dog hurt Deorr in any way, I'm just wondering why they failed to mention her for so long. If anything, I would think the dog was possibly tied to the back of the car, and perhaps accidently backed over. It would just be interesting to know how she is doing.

Maybe they did like the old Vacation movie and forgot to untie Dinky (or in this case Missy) before they drove away.

All kidding aside I believe they didn't mention the dog publicly because it doesn't work with the narrative they were trying to spin. As many other posters have mentioned a dog would most likely go bananas if a stranger or wild animal came into the camp site. If anything or anybody actually snatched little Deorr the dog would freak out so bad everyone would know something was going on. I have long since moved past believing the parents but if it had come out at the beginning a dog or dogs were present I would have never even entertained the idea of their abduction story.

 

[Inthedetails]

Maybe they did like the old Vacation movie and forgot to untie Dinky (or in this case Missy) before they drove away.

All kidding aside I believe they didn't mention the dog publicly because it doesn't work with the narrative they were trying to spin. As many other posters have mentioned a dog would most likely go bananas if a stranger or wild animal came into the camp site. If anything or anybody actually snatched little Deorr the dog would freak out so bad everyone would know something was going on. I have long since moved past believing the parents but if it had come out at the beginning a dog or dogs were present I would have never even entertained the idea of their abduction story.

I never heard of this dog until recently (like others), but find it curious they didn't use the dog in their story....the dog wandered off and Deorr followed him. Dog came back, but Deorr didn't.

jmo

 

[The Apparition]

I never heard of this dog until recently (like others), but find it curious they didn't use the dog in their story....the dog wandered off and Deorr followed him. Dog came back, but Deorr didn't.

jmo

Not a terrible idea (for this group) but I think in the hierarchy of babysitter choices old man > dog. They wouldn't want to seem irresponsible and it would be hard to say with a straight face we left the baby with a dog and he disappeared.

 

[Inthedetails]

Not a terrible idea (for this group) but I think in the hierarchy of babysitter choices old man > dog. They wouldn't want to seem irresponsible and it would be hard to say with a straight face we left the baby with a dog and he disappeared.

Well, I didn't think they would say they left the dog in charge of the boy, just that the boy followed the dog away from camp and got lost.

But, doesn't matter since it didn't happen.

 

[renarde]

I never heard of this dog until recently (like others), but find it curious they didn't use the dog in their story....the dog wandered off and Deorr followed him. Dog came back, but Deorr didn't.

jmo

They didn't use IR in their original story either.

 

[neesaki]

They didn't use IR in their original story either.

Yeah, I think it's odd how they left IR completely out of their first interview, as though they didn't want him to exist, or anyone to know he was there. Then come to find out they completely left the dog out as well. Strange... so what else did they leave out ?

 

[The Apparition]

Yeah, I think it's odd how they left IR completely out of their first interview, as though they didn't want him to exist, or anyone to know he was there. Then come to find out they completely left the dog out as well. Strange... so what else did they leave out ?

Copious amounts of alcohol, I am sure they forgot to mention that.

Observing them in various interviews I am not so sure they don't dabble in other forms of "recreation". If and when this all comes out I'm pretty confident the guilty parties will be accused of not being sober when whatever happened, happened. Obviously there is nothing that makes this tragedy ok, but if the guilty parties were not in their right mind at least it would make more sense.

 

[kammiemc]

I was really hoping this case was going to be resolved by now. But, that was under the assumption that he wandered away from the campsite, and fell into the nearby creek.

I want to remain optimistic, but I think this case is going to go cold. That's just my opinion though.


I have a question for anyone who knows the answer: Vernal said his dog (Missy I believe is the dogs name) was tied to the back bumper and Deorr Jr. was playing with her at some point. Has there been any news regarding Missy and her whereabouts today? I think it's very unusual that dog(s) werent mentioned for a long time. I also don't see a point in bringing a dog to a campground that can't stay in the local area without running off.

Seems that LE would know straightaway whether there was a dog (dogs) at the campsite when first responders arrived. I am kind of thinking someone asked Klein about this in a q and a. But I can't recall the answer. Will hunt later!


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