Found Deceased ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow *Arrests* #74

[nodamselindistress]

I think she was upset that Archibald basically called CD a loser and unattractive and pointed out what a bad decision she made killing CV and ending up with CD.

 

[BUF]

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[nhmemorymaker]

She's who I've been following. She's been awesome

Pizzaman.... I have been out of town and travelling for a week.... so so much to catch up on....
Remind me of who Gigi is????? and where to go to get....
thanks

 

[formerlyme]

once this is over she isn't gonna be the center of attention , until the next trial.

 

[formerlyme]

I think she was upset that Archibald basically called CD a loser and unattractive and pointed out what a bad decision she made killing CV and ending up with CD.

yeah, I agree and I am sure she fought defense every step of the way on what they could do.....

 

[TheLoadedGoat]

I have never heard this before … alternates can go home but must be reachable.

They usually have them stay in the courthouse until a verdict is reached.

I do not believe anyone, including the judge, thinks this will take long enough to lose any jurors.

 

[longtimereader]

I think she was upset that Archibald basically called CD a loser and unattractive and pointed out what a bad decision she made killing CV and ending up with CD.

Yes. He made fun of their beliefs and their intimate names for CD too. Really just made her look very stupid.

 

[mickey2942]

Given the fact that there was basically no defense presented, I wouldn't be surprised by a quick deliberation.

 

[pizzaman12]

Pizzaman.... I have been out of town and travelling for a week.... so so much to catch up on....
Remind me of who Gigi is????? and where to go to get....
thanks

She's with Pretty Lies And Alibis & a correspondent for Law & Crime Network. She was recently booted off here which is unfortunate. I dig Nate but I thought she was my favorite through this trial but I followed both. Nate's tweets were used on WS so it was nice to watch her Twitter and see the discussion on WS

 

[pizzaman12]

Did JB state how late they would let them deliberate?

 

[MyJoey]

How long has the jury been out ?

 

[TigerLou]

Did JB state how late they would let them deliberate?

I'm positive I read earlier today from one of the reporters that he was letting the jurors decide how late they would deliberate but I haven't gone back to find that tweet so take that with a grain of salt for now.

 

[Emi]

Did JB state how late they would let them deliberate?

no he said that it was up to the jury to decide how long

 

[sassyblue]

How long has the jury been out ?

An hour and 15 minutes or so.

 

[SteveS]

I thought the closing arguments had no real surprises. Each side touched all the bases in about the same way I thought they would, with the focus for each side on the best strategic points they had.

I have no doubt she's going to be found guilty. I don't think she personally got her own hands dirty on any of the killings, but she was cooperating with Chad and Alex and knew what was happening, and that makes her guilty for all of it, even what Alex and Chad did. The jury only has to see proof in the evidence that she was intending and working to see those 3 people killed, along with some financial intent, and she's guilty on all counts. They will look for it and find enough to be satisfied.

I expect she will receive huge sentences -- the jury won't want her brand of crazy to be on the streets again, endangering what could be their family and friends. [ETA - Noted below that in ID the judge not jury sets the sentence. I do think he will lock her up for good. He gets it.]

But I am not expecting a verdict soon. It's just too much data for them to consume, and too many separate charges to consider, for them to weigh quickly imo.

Just my 2c.

PS - I think Chad will get the DP if he doesn't get a plea offer for less. I do think the state might make him an offer, to save the expense and uncertainty of a jury trial, and also because Lori won't be getting DP for the same crimes (equity in sentencing) which might make a DP have grounds for appeal. But he should be dead-ified for this madness he invented and used to kill innocent people who had done him no harm. This type of crime is exactly why you have a DP.

 

[nodamselindistress]

CTV said JB will check with the jury right about now to see if they want to continue or go home.

 

[BUF]

Listening to Law & Crime and sounds like dinner may be brought in for the jury tonight.

 

[Gardenista]

Listening to Law & Crime and sounds like dinner may be brought in for the jury tonight.

That's a good sign

 

[LaborDayRN]

That's a good sign

I think so too.

 

[Tortoise]

I thought the closing arguments had no real surprises. Each side touched all the bases in about the same way I thought they would, with the focus for each side on the best strategic points they had.

I have no doubt she's going to be found guilty. I don't think she personally got her own hands dirty on any of the killings, but she was cooperating with Chad and Alex and knew what was happening, and that makes her guilty for all of it, even what Alex and Chad did. The jury only has to see proof in the evidence that she was intending and working to see those 3 people killed, along with some financial intent, and she's guilty on all counts. They will look for it and find enough to be satisfied.

I expect she will receive huge sentences -- the jury won't want her brand of crazy to be on the streets again, endangering what could be their family and friends.

But I am not expecting a verdict soon. It's just too much data for them to consume, and too many separate charges to consider, for them to weigh quickly imo.

Just my 2c.

PS - I think Chad will get the DP if he doesn't get a plea offer for less. I do think the state might make him an offer, to save the expense and uncertainty of a jury trial, and also because Lori won't be getting DP for the same crimes (equity in sentencing) which might make a DP have grounds for appeal. But he should be dead-ified for this madness he invented and used to kill innocent people who had done him no harm. This type of crime is exactly why you have a DP.

The judge decides on the sentence, not the jury, in Idaho.

https://isc.idaho.gov/overview.pdf