Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #49

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  • #141
A while ago I posted that on the day in question wind was blowing strong from the south west. Nothing for miles toward the NE from the burn pit.
 
  • #142
And/or seen it. That’s exactly where’s he’s going!

I think that's where he's going too but we know neighbors did see bonfires and noted them as unusual. How does he know there will not be testimony from a neighbor later about seeing fires or smelling weird smells?

MOO.
 
  • #143
Prior is pretty much showing what the dichotomy of a straw mans argument is. He can’t attack the substance so he misrepresents and attacks a position not taken by the witness.


Interesting how defense takes the crime...then works backward to create a different beginning that does not include their client.

Didn’t work for Henry Segura...
Ultimately it was the phone pings.
 
  • #144
Shallow graves...Chud was a grave digger and couldn't have done that! /sarc

Huh? A body that was taped horizontally around the mouth/head, taped vertically around the head, taped around to bind the hands and arms both in cross position, ankles taped together and bound. Then, after this "package for burial" is ready... put a bag on head, then put in another bag..

Then.. put 2 flat pieces of cabinetry on it (nope, not just wood.. yet cabinetry iirc). And then....

so animals don't dig through it... put flat rocks on such to prevent even more that someone doesn't find when digging a garden years and years from now.

Pffft. SMDH, I believe that your post was tongue in cheek and rhetorical.

Yep................
 
  • #145
As much as I think Woods presentation is weak, Prior has made no points of substance. His suggestions are not believable at all. He’s got nothing for this witness.

Prior is just flat annoying.
 
  • #146
As much as I think Woods presentation is weak, Prior has made no points of substance. His suggestions are not believable at all. He’s got nothing for this witness.
I agree. Wonder if Chad will pull out his pendulum during lunch.
 
  • #147
This is a bit gruesome, so be warned that you may want to avoid reading if you'd prefer:

I'm wondering whether the duct-taped arms and repeatedly duct-taped wrists and hands of JJ has to do with what happened to TR's body when they attempted to burn it. I did some research after the bodies were recovered about what happens with a burning body and apparently, as a body is burned, the limbs often move as though the burning person is still alive and is pulling their arms up and outward.

I wonder whether that was experienced by AxC and CD when burning TR's body and it frightened AxC and CD. They may have been considering burning JJ as well and so prepared his body to avoid re-experiencing that movement, but then ultimately decided to bury his body without burning.

Gunshot?
 
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Anyone else find Prior extremely accusatory? Jmo
Yes. He’s annoying and a bully. I appreciate some of his legal points but jurors aren’t going to be a fan of this man IMO.

I also think Means would have been sunk if he had to do Lori’s prelim first.
 
  • #150
It was weird to watch CD pass a note to get Prior to ask about a list of people who could have been interviewed and recorded. Is there alterior motives here? Trying to find out what the prosecution knows? It’s almost like CD is driving the bus. All jmo
 
  • #151
I’d like to know why they didn’t request a search warrant on the 26th. November 26th
Probably because they weren't able to speak to MG until late in the evening. They didn't know before that JJ wasn't with her.
 
  • #152
Huh? A body that was taped horizontally around the mouth/head, taped vertically around the head, taped around to bind the hands and arms both in cross position, ankles taped together and bound. Then, after this "package for burial" is ready... put a bag on head, then put in another bag..

Then.. put 2 flat pieces of cabinetry on it (nope, not just wood.. yet cabinetry iirc). And then....

so animals don't dig through it... put flat rocks on such to prevent even more that someone doesn't find when digging a garden years and years from now.

Pffft. SMDH, I believe that your post was tongue in cheek and rhetorical.

Yep................
Yes, it was.
 
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I think Prior is trying to suggest that if a body were burned there, neighbors would have smelled it.
I bet he is trying to get to the remains NOT being burned on Chad’s property. He had no knowledge of it or participating in it. That would have to mean no fragments found in burn pit.
 
  • #155
It was weird to watch CD pass a note to get Prior to ask about a list of people who could have been interviewed and recorded. Is there alterior motives here? Trying to find out what the prosecution knows? It’s almost like CD is driving the bus. All jmo
I'm sure Prior will try to bully Chad's ex friends on the stand. Chad will provide him with their weaknesses.
 
  • #156
I think it’s interesting that Prior keeps referring to Lori as Ms. Vallow even though a legal marriage certificate was presented in court today as proof that Chad and Lori are married. That makes me think that he is trying to distance Chad from Lori. MOO
 
  • #157
I’d like to know why they didn’t request a search warrant on the 26th. November 26th
I got the impression they did request it on the 26th but didn’t get it granted until the 27th.
 
  • #158
Probably because they weren't able to speak to MG until late in the evening. They didn't know before that JJ wasn't with her.
I hope that’s it. But he said he was suspicious with the answers already. I noticed the state didn’t ask why he didn’t get it on the 26th. It’s not like it was denied, I don’t think. I just want to know why it wasn’t pursued then.
 
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I think that common white kitchen trash bag was placed over JJ’s head after he was bound with duct tape so they didn’t have to watch that poor child’s face while he was dying,
 
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