Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #2

[SuperTmo]

I am also a terrible sleeper because of my ADHD. When I found the right med, that problem went away. Being able to sleep honestly makes me an entirely different person.

ABSOLUTELY!! I take Adderall for my ADHD and often times need a low dose sleeping pill to be able to fall asleep. Sleep matters! My ADHD is controlled on a very low dose of adderall these days because I am able to get proper sleep most nights. Anyone judging someone else for that clearly doesn’t know what it’s like to experience this.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I am trying to just think basically here.
Aside from all the dead people (omg), how do prepppers prep exactly? Supplies would be needed. I am guessing that is what Lori was up to when she went MIA for 45 days (or 2 months or whatever it was)? Maybe? Buying and prepping?

Where are said supplies bought? Online? Wall-Mart? )*side note: I legit expect a Wal-Mart angle in every case at this point. It often happens. Jussayin'

But, if you are bunkering down, what do you need?

To the insiders, what kind of shoppers were Lori and Chad, what stores would they be likely to go to?

As a total aside, I went down some rabbit hole. Probably on twitter. Some girl tweeted that she prayed about her prepping and it was revealed to her she needed more toilet paper in her provisions.

Back to your regular programming.

JMO

 

[BigAl16]

As a total aside, I went down some rabbit hole. Probably on twitter. Some girl tweeted that she prayed about her prepping and it was revealed to her she needed more toilet paper in her provisions.

Back to your regular programming.

JMO

MOO
I'm sure no matter how much someone has, it isn't likely to be enough. (Then these preppers seem to be fuller of toilet paper required materials than the average, so they may need still more. )

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Go to the latest Gray Hughes Investigates video, 12/27/19, these are the second marks for the corresponding bulllll chit. Yay I took one for the team!
1:06:30 Julie deals in human trafficking / soul trafficking // 1:12:15 From 2-3 years ago, visions by both Julie and Chad re/ Tammy's death, even called a daughter // 1:27:20 Julie tells of her psychic vision of the killing of Charles Vallow, but then errs by saying she read the news about it.

EDIT: Before launching the player, just hit the blue hotlink timestamp, it will launch the player at that stamp. Then give it a few seconds to play into the sequence mentioned. Stop and close it to hit another link, or use the hotlinks in one of the comments below in the actual youtube comment section.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

In retrospect I think Julie was less in the know on the Lori plans. I missed when her convo with Chad was about both of them having visions of Tammy's demise tho, was that early this year, or in Oct? Chad was shining her on in March, but for good? I struggle listening to her chit, I despise people who vomit the fake religious garbage, the Dark Side, The Light of the Truth behind the Veil, gag and vomit. The bunch of them are dark side people if you ask me. Just wait, they will tell you how you are missing out if you don't buy their bull. And you can start paying today!

Yeah, I struggled for a while, and then realized that this *sidebar* discussion about this person is one that I will just roll and scroll by as to comments. As Mr. Wonderful says on Shark Tank, she's dead to me. She's white noise and a red herring (behind a white veil, I'm ignoring her)

I'm more focused on THE MISSING CHILDREN and the deaths that occurred prior and around the players, not this person who is throwing herself wanting media attention and promoting herself with her coworker Eric etc and the guy who was so active in comments on her youtube.

Pfft, she doesn't even mention concern.

MOO

 

[mickey2942]

Has anyone had verified MSM regarding life insurance policy on Tammy Daybell?

This is very tragic for the Daybell family members, especially the children, even grown up...their Mom dies, their Father goes to Hawaii and gets married to a gal within weeks of their Mother's death...

And Thanksgiving, a time when families are supposed to gather together, Chad and Lori skip town to avoid the police. There is a very big problem there. Prayers for JJ and Tylee.

 

[jjenny]

Has anyone had verified MSM regarding life insurance policy on Tammy Daybell?

This is very tragic for the Daybell family members, especially the children, even grown up...their Mom dies, their Father goes to Hawaii and gets married to a gal within weeks of their Mother's death...

And Thanksgiving, a time when families are supposed to gather together, Chad and Lori skip town to avoid the police. There is a very big problem there. Prayers for JJ and Tylee.

I can't find anything in msm about Tammy having life insurance.

 

[SuperTmo]

There was talk a few pages back about the vision of tammy’s death being due to a car accident but that she didn’t go that way. Can someone clarify if there was a car accident that almost took, or should have taken Tammy’s life?

 

[Gardener1850]

Oh, what the heck...

The first podcast in this cached page shows Preparing a People podcast Sep 16 2019 with Chad Daybell. They pulled the podcast so you can't listen but it was there.

Listen to Preparing A People Podcast Network podcast on myTuner Radio

It looks like there was a ‘Preparing a People’-affiliated event in Rexburg, ID on Saturday, September 21, 2019. This was right before JJ’s last reported date of school attendance (Monday, Sept. 23).

Link: https://www.preparingapeople.com/copy-of-conference-tickets-1

It was cached (from Nov 2019). I posted it simply to show Prepare A People WAS associated with Chad, Lori and Time To Warrior Up podcasts despite the fact they want distance from Chad & Lori now.

And, he was on the May/June 2019 event list here but had to get a replacement due to "family emergency"

Buy tickets for Sandy, Utah - Preparing A People Event at Salt Lake Community College - Larry Miller Campus Conf. Center, Fri 31 May 2019

Good finds... The above events seem to contradict their recent statement that he last spoke for them at an event in Feb 2019 (BBM):

*Chad Daybell was an author and began publishing books over 20 years ago under the name of "Spring Creek Book Company." He spoke at some of the "Preparing A People" events, but had no ownership in it, nor was he a founder. Mr. Daybell was simply one of many speakers at the events. His last speaking engagement was back in February of 2019, in Boise, Idaho. Like all of our speakers, we helped promote the events by interviewing and podcasting interviews with our speakers, including, but in no way exclusively to, Mr. Daybell.

https://www.preparingapeople.com/

I wonder if maybe he was a no-show in Sept 2019 too? Ignoring the podcasts, if he didn't actually speak at the Sept event (even though he was advertised to) then PAP might *technically* claim Feb was the last "event" that he spoke at... That's pretty sneaky wording though. They are either fudging the truth about when Daybell "last spoke" (only counting events, not podcasts) or they are flat out lying about it to try to salvage their reputation with their mainstream LDS patrons. MOO.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Has anyone had verified MSM regarding life insurance policy on Tammy Daybell?

This is very tragic for the Daybell family members, especially the children, even grown up...their Mom dies, their Father goes to Hawaii and gets married to a gal within weeks of their Mother's death...

And Thanksgiving, a time when families are supposed to gather together, Chad and Lori skip town to avoid the police. There is a very big problem there. Prayers for JJ and Tylee.

I wonder if LE have spoken with the realtor from Hawaii (Kauai) on loris instagram. I wonder if the house she stayed in before is for lease? I guess the only way they couldn’t be tracked there is if they are paying all cash.

Is there some attraction to Hawaii for LDS? I saw Nancy the owner of preparing a people site was there at a conference in 2016. I think the big island if I remember right.

Might be why there is no amber alert. Maybe FBI know through flight records where they could be.
They probably know how many were on that it’s ready too. And, I’m betting it was 2. LE don’t say they are really worried for the children if there isn’t some big clues to be worried.

I wonder if any sibling or relatives have been asked for DNA to compare? I’m betting they are comparing to Alex’s car? He would have dna in the sutra since he was incarcerated correct?

Does anyone have a msm article to Brandon’s attempted murder? I can’t find it and want to know who was investigating besides fbi.

 

[mickey2942]

I wonder if LE have spoken with the realtor from Hawaii (Kauai) on loris instagram. I wonder if the house she stayed in before is for lease? I guess the only way they couldn’t be tracked there is if they are paying all cash.

Is there some attraction to Hawaii for LDS? I saw Nancy the owner of preparing a people site was there at a conference in 2016. I think the big island if I remember right.

Might be why there is no amber alert. Maybe FBI know through flight records where they could be.
They probably know how many were on that it’s ready too. And, I’m betting it was 2. LE don’t say they are really worried for the children if there isn’t some big clues to be worried.

I wonder if any sibling or relatives have been asked for DNA to compare? I’m betting they are comparing to Alex’s car? He would have dna in the sutra since he was incarcerated correct?

Does anyone have a msm article to Brandon’s attempted murder? I can’t find it and want to know who was investigating besides fbi.

There is a very large LDS population in Hawaii, and the Polynesian Center is located very close to BYU Hawaii.

 

[jjenny]

Well since Alex has died and his body was autopsied, I am sure they could get his DNA that way.
Regarding children, Taylee has a half brother they could get DNA from for comparison. Joshua's biological parents are alive as far as I can tell, so they cold get DNA from them for comparison.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I am clueless about LDS really. How does the Polynesian center relate?

There is a very large LDS population in Hawaii, and the Polynesian Center is located very close to BYU Hawaii.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Yes, I realize. I’m wondering if they’ve been asked to supply a sample. Would be informative as to what LE has found. Would also imagine they would want to positively ID Alex so I imagine that was done and possibly compared to his incarceration records or if he is in CODIS. I have t looked to see if a lab is approved near where he was incarcerated or if they take dna.

Well since Alex has died and his body was autopsied, I am sure they could get his DNA that way.
Regarding children, Taylee has a half brother they could get DNA from for comparison. Joshua's biological parents are alive as far as I can tell, so they cold get DNA from them for comparison.

 

[BigAl16]

I am clueless about LDS really. How does the Polynesian center relate?

The Polynesian Cultural center (you can find their website via Google), at least at one time was owned by the Mormon church and I think may have even originally been started by them. There is still a relationship between the two, although I'm not positive what it is. I poked around quickly on their website and on the page about employment it specifically says:

Due to the close relationship of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Polynesian Cultural Center, some believe that one is required to be LDS to become employed at the Center. This is definitely not the case, but the Center does have specific standards of conduct and dress and grooming that are perhaps more stringent than required by other employers. Although many of our employees are members of the LDS Church, it is not a requirement.

Other requirements include a written commitment by the applicant to live by specific standards of conduct and dress & grooming referred to above. This commitment must be submitted to the Polynesian Cultural Center in the form of an "Ecclesiastical Leader Endorsement," or a statement by the applicant's ecclesiastical leader that the applicant is committed to living by the standards the Polynesian Cultural Center requires.

****

Yup, a letter from your bishop, pastor, or priest if you want to work there.

And Wikipedia says it is owned by the church.

 

[mzmarple]

Good finds... The above events seem to contradict their recent statement that he last spoke for them at an event in Feb 2019 (BBM):

*Chad Daybell was an author and began publishing books over 20 years ago under the name of "Spring Creek Book Company." He spoke at some of the "Preparing A People" events, but had no ownership in it, nor was he a founder. Mr. Daybell was simply one of many speakers at the events. His last speaking engagement was back in February of 2019, in Boise, Idaho. Like all of our speakers, we helped promote the events by interviewing and podcasting interviews with our speakers, including, but in no way exclusively to, Mr. Daybell.

https://www.preparingapeople.com/

I wonder if maybe he was a no-show in Sept 2019 too? Ignoring the podcasts, if he didn't actually speak at the Sept event (even though he was advertised to) then PAP might *technically* claim Feb was the last "event" that he spoke at... That's pretty sneaky wording though. They are either fudging the truth about when Daybell "last spoke" (only counting events, not podcasts) or they are flat out lying about it to try to salvage their reputation with their mainstream LDS patrons. MOO.

The Sept. 21 event didn’t have Chad on the schedule, it was just advertised on the same page that listed all 2019 speakers...
Here’s a link to the actual September event schedule: https://c016731e-8d78-4959-b413-a97...d/b30d25_1ebff8f22cbd42518d57c497a9f6f638.pdf (linked from page with 2019 speakers...)

 

[jjenny]

Yes, I realize. I’m wondering if they’ve been asked to supply a sample. Would be informative as to what LE has found. Would also imagine they would want to positively ID Alex so I imagine that was done and possibly compared to his incarceration records or if he is in CODIS. I have t looked to see if a lab is approved near where he was incarcerated or if they take dna.

What do we know about Alex Cox potential criminal record?

 

[Beansie]

Just a thought about the police and FBI seemingly moving slowly on this case. There have been such negative outcomes to say the least when the government has gotten involved in religious groups. Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Short Creek Raid. Maybe this is bigger than we realize and there is so much to investigate along with finding the kids, Chad, and Lori. Surely this "group" has been on FBI radar. How much did they already know before these people went missing? How much will they stir the pot? Just some thoughts. MOO

 

[Gardener1850]

The Sept. 21 event didn’t have Chad on the schedule, it was just advertised on the same page that listed all 2019 speakers...
Here’s a link to the actual September event schedule: https://c016731e-8d78-4959-b413-a97...d/b30d25_1ebff8f22cbd42518d57c497a9f6f638.pdf (linked from page with 2019 speakers...)

Thanks, I misunderstood that page. So I'm thinking he did last speak at a PAP event in Feb 2019, even though he was on podcasts after that... I believe they are trying to distance themselves from Daybell with tricky language about when he was last a speaker at one of their "events" and ignoring the podcasts he did after Feb 2019. MOO.

 

[fred&edna]

The Sept. 21 event didn’t have Chad on the schedule, it was just advertised on the same page that listed all 2019 speakers...
Here’s a link to the actual September event schedule: https://c016731e-8d78-4959-b413-a97...d/b30d25_1ebff8f22cbd42518d57c497a9f6f638.pdf (linked from page with 2019 speakers...)

Right. Chad was on the Sept podcast... Not an event list. I didn't post incorrectly on those things. (Yay me on that... For once!)

ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #2