Gonna steal a page from
@Gardener1850 's book and put a disclaimer here:
I have only ever posted to Websleuths with details on this case, anyone claiming to be me is lying. If I ever do make statements or posts outside of Websleuths I will post the link to it myself.
With that out of the way, here's another three and a half hours of catching up:
I'm the VI you reference. I have no concrete knowledge of where Chad and Lori were married, all I know is that my side of the family found out about the marriage at the same time Chad said he was in Hawaii.
The only source claiming Chad has been excommunicated is Daily Mail, which does not have a stellar reputation. Based on precedent from the LDS Church, unless Chad or someone close to him speaks out we will never know if he has been excommunicated. They will likely never make a statement about this case either (from what I've read they could get in legal trouble if they did). Having the LDS Church make a statement will likely have no impact on this case, in large part because your everyday practicing LDS member already agrees that Chad and Lori should just show us the kids. The people who may be involved in hiding the kids have likely already stopped listening to most LDS practice.
I have a screenshot I will try to attach that outlines AVOW's first-layer paywall. You can find this info easily on their official website. I do not know what the deeper, second-layer paywall looks like.
Edit: Despite reminding myself multiple times I forgot to attach it. It should be there now, sorry.
An Elder has no authority to speak for the LDS Church. Even the ward's Bishop or one of his counselors does not have the authority to speak for the church. It'd be like the cashier at the corporate grocery store also serving as the spokesperson.
Not making public statements about situations such as this case is well in precedence of the LDS Church. See my previous post.
My family, friends of my family, and many others in my life are LDS. They all want Chad and Lori to show us the kids. Only the people who have cut contact with me and my family have unclear stances.
Hi I'm one of Tammy's relatives. On the Douglas side of things we are in full support of finding the missing kids and cooperating with law enforcement wherever they ask us (I don't know how much they've contacted anyone in the family). We haven't been public because we don't want to lose the Daybell kids, and making public statements condemning their father is a pretty good way to lose them. As it stands the family has been displeased with my activity here on WS.
The Daybell kids have likely been instructed by the lawyer Chad set them up with to not get involved. I wish they would cooperate with LE, but I'm in no position to convince them to.
I've never heard anything about the Daybells being against autopsy, though the topic certainly never came up. The reason everyone was ticked off about Tammy's exhumation was no one was notified, so we first heard about it through the news weeks after it happened.
I'm the VI you reference. The Daybell kids have cut contact with the Douglas side of the family, with very little exception. We were lucky enough to be invited to the re-dedication of Tammy's grave, where only 1 Daybell kid attended. Even if I had contact with them though, I would not dare get near asking them about Tammy's death. It's been 2 months, and if I haven't finished grieving her there's no way they have.
I have been saying this from the beginning but people won't drop it.
I want to clarify/reiterate that it is totally possible that the Daybell kids are only in contact with Chad via lawyer. I haven't heard anything to suggest they've had direct contact with him, and the fact they're now pointing people to the same lawyer as Chad makes me think that lawyer has a lot going on right now.
The fact he referred them to Chad's lawyer makes me think that Sean Bartholick is the lawyer Chad set them up with.
I'm trying to recall the context to this quote but if I'm remembering right: (The money from Chad's paywall shenanigans)
Chad's involvement in AVOW and PAP was a surprise to the family (please recall that AVOW is where his paywall exists). Everyone was surprised when he skipped town and told us he remarried. He's been hiding things from everyone already, to think he also hid such things from Tammy isn't that far fetched. I personally like to think that based on Tammy's character she would have been displeased in Chad monetizing his "visions", especially since he was supposedly putting reference of his visions in his books.
Alrighty, another catch-up post down. As always, if you feel I missed your post or need further clarification throw me an
@Maxxer500 or quote me. I've been sick for a day now but I won't let that keep me from responding.
