Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #4

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  • #481
Betcha Chad thinks he's Moroni
 
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  • #483
How is it that reincarnated people always come back as the really cool guys? lol
 
  • #484
No, I think that's how these documents are. Charles is the father of JJ, and Lori is the mother of JJ, so they are referred to as father and mother.
I see, thanks, so court speak. Is this the custody court battle that is not supposed to exist? Anyway, it was still madness being spoken by her. What a messed up pair Chad and Lori are.
 
  • #485
New info from reporter Justin Lum

“Court documents we’ve obtained reveal Lori allegedly said “she was a God assigned to carry out the work of the 144,000 at Christ’s second coming in July 2020.” If Charles got in her way, “she would murder him.” ‬

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

(Edited because I’m new to posting & clarifying my post. :))
Oh boy.
 
  • #486
I keep thinking of Alex and his "Looney Tunes" bit...
 
  • #487
I see, thanks, so court speak. Is this the custody court battle that is not supposed to exist? ...
Police said there was no ACTIVE custody battle when children have gone missing. As Charles is dead, no active custody battle is completely accurate. He can't fight for custody because he is dead.
 
  • #488
So, um. That's not just cultish. That's more like psychosis or drug fueled crazy. :( JMO
 
  • #489
That's interesting. Are "Emotional Code Practitioners" also popular with AVOW? A lot of profiles / social media all vanished yesterday, including a LinkedIn profile.
Someone is clearly reading here and following the LE investigation closely.. LE will already have it though so it doesn't matter what they delete does it? LE will just get the info direct from LinkedIn. What are these idiots hiding if not criminal behaviour. It is sickening. I hope they are watching the search being enacted in Rexburg.
 
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Oh my! Now I'm gravely concerned.
 
  • #491
Referring to the 12 Tribes


Book of Revelation

The number 144,000 has religious significance for Christians because of its use in the Book of Revelation, where it appears three times:
  • Revelation 7:3–8:
... saying: "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads."
And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:
12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed,
12,000 from the tribe of Reuben,
12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
12,000 from the tribe of Asher,
12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali,
12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
12,000 from the tribe of Simeon,
12,000 from the tribe of Levi,
12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun,
12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,
12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed
 
  • #492
Isn't the 144,000 number a Jehovah's Witness thing? Did AVOW steal/borrow/plagiarize that from them? MOO.

Take your pick. Lori seems to lie somewhere between LDS and New Age. There are other groups too, including Islam and Unification Church. Highlights from Wikipedia:

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that the sealing of the 144,000 relates to the high priests, ordained unto the holy order of God, to administer the everlasting gospel; for they are they who are ordained out of every nation, kindred, tongue, and people, by the angels to whom is given power over the nations of the earth, to bring as many as will come to the church of the Firstborn.[16]


New Age movements[edit]
The number 144,000 is also significant in various New Age religious movements.


144,000 - Wikipedia

 
  • #493
I see, thanks, so court speak. Is this the custody court battle that is not supposed to exist? Anyway, it was still madness being spoken by her. What a messed up pair Chad and Lori are.

I think it is the divorce (which when there is kid involved is also a custody) case that Charles filed, then later dropped.
 
  • #494
Police said there was no ACTIVE custody battle when children have gone missing. As Charles is dead, no active custody battle is completely accurate. He can't fight for custody because he is dead.
He can't unfortunately no, but his family certainly can and will win if these documents are anything to go by and if it is hopefully not too late. Things are becoming a little clearer.
 
  • #495
Isn't the 144,000 number a Jehovah's Witness thing? Did AVOW steal/borrow/plagiarize that from them? MOO.
No it's from Revelation 7.
 
  • #496
WOW those documents are cuckoo bananas. It seems like she genuinely believes what she is saying, which makes her very dangerous IMO. If you truly buy into the idea that you are a god-like being with angels on your side, you can justify ANY action to yourself, including murder. :(

Admittedly, I am a newbie. I hope you will be patient. This story has intrigued and sickened me. I live in Utah but am Not LDS. I have family and friends that are, and am very familiar with LDS faith. They are law abiding, rules oriented people. The mainstream LDS would be and are sickened by this. Please can we drop that.


The 144,000 is not unique really to any religion. It’s a number in the Bible, what is unique is claiming that you are one of them, or a God before a “judgement” Or even a second coming.

As I have followed this. I totally thought Chad was the leader, but as developments continue, and I see the trail of carnage around Lori... I really wonder.

The metal detectors they were using would probably reach 12 inches below the coil. They are looking for something metal on the surface. Not deep. As someone already said. Dogs would be better for that.

Let’s pray for the best!
 
  • #497
Referring to the 12 Tribes


Book of Revelation

The number 144,000 has religious significance for Christians because of its use in the Book of Revelation, where it appears three times:
  • Revelation 7:3–8:
... saying: "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads."
And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:
12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed,
12,000 from the tribe of Reuben,
12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
12,000 from the tribe of Asher,
12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali,
12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
12,000 from the tribe of Simeon,
12,000 from the tribe of Levi,
12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun,
12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,
12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed

Thanks. If I'd ever heard of this number outside of JW's who (if I remember what I've heard) believe that many will be chosen to move on to the next round when this world is no more. The 12 tribes, I remember hearing about in my Mormon days.
 
  • #498
Here is another twist! She now sees herself as God...

Goes along with social media chatter that she also referred to herself as the reincarnated wife of Joseph Smith (Emma Smith?) ?
 
  • #499
Goes along with social media chatter that she also referred to herself as the reincarnated wife of Joseph Smith (Emma Smith?) ?

Have you seen someone say she specified Emma? There has been talk of that, but nothing specific I've seen that specified which of Joseph's wives.
 
  • #500
Thanks. If I'd ever heard of this number outside of JW's who (if I remember what I've heard) believe that many will be chosen to move on to the next round when this world is no more. The 12 tribes, I remember hearing about in my Mormon days.

This whole thing is so weird and twisted. I am just over trying to be a nice person and serve others and these people are leading the 12 Tribes to the 2nd Coming.
 
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