Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #20

[Teche]

Not sure if this has been posted

SEE IT: ‘Doomsday’ mom Lori Vallow struts her stuff in ‘Mrs. Texas’ pageant, wins $17K on ‘Wheel of Fortune’ [VIDEO]

I don’t think her clothing meets LDS standards. Looks like she’s had breast implants (IMO).

 

[Teche]

Telling people that your husband died of a heart attack sounds a lot better than telling people your brother killed your husband.

Best post of the day!

 

[alter idem]

TY for the explanation. Clear as mud isn't it?

If Lori was sealed to CV and he is now dead, does she still need an annulment? So presumably she cannot be sealed to Chad without such an annulment. However, Lori claims she is sealed to the prophet Moroni, so she would not be able to be sealed to anyone else. Does she therefore believe Chad is (a reincarnation of) the prophet Moroni?

I'm not sure anyone but Lori and/or Chad could explain this, it's absolutely bizarre what they seem to believe. As an active member of the church, I think I'm safe to claim that no member today would be 'sealed' to moroni, he died about some 1,600 years ago, we don't do sealings of this manner. And we don't believe in reincarnation, so Chad can't possibly be Moroni, or anyone else that lived before. A normal widow who was sealed to another man, can be remarried civilly if she chooses, but not sealed to a second husband, that I know of.
And if Lori wasn't sealed to anyone, and Chad is now free to be sealed to someone else, I don't expect their Bishops would ever give them recommends to be sealed, given all the controversy surrounding their dead spouses. MOO

 

[BigAl16]

Just out of ignorance--I ask this question. Is there any way to "sneak" into National Parks like YNP? You know ...like a professional truck driver in a jeep???

It depends on the park and where exactly they want to sneak. For example, if they wanted to sneak to the banks of the Colorado River in Grand Canyon National Park, I'd say no, it can't be done. If they want to sneak into the short stretch of US 191 that enters Yellowstone between Bozeman and West Yellowstone, MT, then yes, it would be a trivial feat and I've done it in a sedan.

 

[Campizi67]

Thank you for taking the time to type this up! It is very informative and insightful, especially for those of us who are not that familiar with the Book of Mormon.

Thank you, for your response! I have a very good friend who is Mormon, so out of respect for her beliefs, I try to research as much as possible and in this case, having a little perspective when sorting through the published info, is pretty much a requirement!

 

[utahobserver]

Oh good grief..Now another facet to this woman!

I simply cannot keep up with this. Plus, the Wheel of Fortune? You can’t make this stuff up!!!

So... What did I miss?

This is what you missed

Not sure if this has been posted

SEE IT: ‘Doomsday’ mom Lori Vallow struts her stuff in ‘Mrs. Texas’ pageant, wins $17K on ‘Wheel of Fortune’ [VIDEO]

 

[Christ is Truth]

Replying to myself but here is information on Lori first husband thats public knowledge.

"Her first marriage was in 1992 to a young man with the last name Nelson. This marriage was right out of high school and both sets of parents paid for the divorce. "

Hahaha my own theory is out window if this is right. (Not the news report I first read but has the same name as I do.)

What is known so far: Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow

It looks like that reporter did NOT verify her facts before going to print. Colby was born out of the second marriage and adopted by Joseph Ryan. (Most everybody here already knows all of this). And then she was married to CV much longer than “several months”. It’s just a little irritating to see misinformation in these news reports. This isn’t the only one. It’s like the reporters don’t care if they have their facts straight or not. MOO

 

[alter idem]

I don’t think her clothing meets LDS standards. Looks like she’s had breast implants (IMO).

That may be, but in case you were wondering, there's no prohibition against cosmetic surgery for members of the LDS church.

 

[tresir2012]

Then why not just tell LE that? Instead, she's in jail on felony charges.

Right to remain silent I guess. And being bloody minded. Maybe the kids are in hiding and this is all to publicise Chad's new book. We don't know do we?

 

[BigAl16]

That could be. I've considered Chad and Lori both know they're wasting everyone's time fighting this extradition. My theory is he's moving to somewhere he can leave quickly and get back on a plane to the mainland. You suppose he rented a storage unit? Or is mailing boxes back to the mainland somewhere? Jmo

I hadn't thought about whatever things they have there that they want to keep. (The boxes they shipped to the townhouse.) I'd think one of your theories probably fits and which one it is (ship to the mainland or get a storage unit in Hawaii) would indicate where Chad thinks he (or maybe Lori) is going to be long term. Does he think one or both of them will be returning to Hawaii in the near term or not. Of course if he really thinks the world is going to end in July then my logic might fall apart.

 

[tresir2012]

That may be, but in case you were wondering, there's no prohibition against cosmetic surgery for members of the LDS church.

ROFLMAO.
(Maybe it is even encouraged IMO)

 

[Hippoinatutu]

This is my own opinion. I wouldn't trust Dr. Phil's opinion as far as I can throw him. His advice can be downright dangerous. Here is an article from a legitimate Psychologist that has an excellent article pointing this out:

Dr Phil and Domestic Violence: He Just Doesn't Get It - Shrink4Men

MOO

I'm not disagreeing with you.

It looks like that reporter did NOT verify her facts before going to print. Colby was born out of the second marriage and adopted by Joseph Ryan. (Most everybody here already knows all of this). And then she was married to CV much longer than “several months”. It’s just a little irritating to see misinformation in these news reports. This isn’t the only one. It’s like the reporters don’t care if they have their facts straight or not. MOO

Feel a bit ashamed I didn't look at the rest of article. I knew the name of Nelson. So just googled- lori vallow cox ryan "nelson" (using speach marks only brings up articles with that one word) and picked one of the first articles that came up. As I said it was not the article I first got information from.

 

[jjenny]

It looks like that reporter did NOT verify her facts before going to print. Colby was born out of the second marriage and adopted by Joseph Ryan. (Most everybody here already knows all of this). And then she was married to CV much longer than “several months”. It’s just a little irritating to see misinformation in these news reports. This isn’t the only one. It’s like the reporters don’t care if they have their facts straight or not. MOO

More than a little irritating.

 

[BigAl16]

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Lori Vallow’s son tells me he is trying to get a hold of his mom. He wants answers. Vallow is in custody at KCCC in Kauai and her extradition hearing is on Monday 3/2. #fox10phoenix



3:27 PM · Feb 25, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Are you trying to make me cry? :'(

 

[tresir2012]

I hadn't thought about whatever things they have there that they want to keep. (The boxes they shipped to the townhouse.) I'd think one of your theories probably fits and which one it is (ship to the mainland or get a storage unit in Hawaii) would indicate where Chad thinks he (or maybe Lori) is going to be long term. Does he think one or both of them will be returning to Hawaii in the near term or not. Of course if he really thinks the world is going to end in July then my logic might fall apart.

I think being on an already dead volcanic island is probably the best place to be when the earthquake hits in July so Lori needs to waive extradition, get a plea deal or produce the kids so they can get back there asap.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

I simply cannot keep up with this. Plus, the Wheel of Fortune? You can’t make this stuff up!!!

This is what you missed

I lead such a boring law abiding life ..This chick Lori Nelson Cox Lagioia Ryan Vallow Daybell has been a hot mess for a good 20 so odd yrs. MOO

Edit...I had to add in a husband (Nelson)

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Just out of ignorance--I ask this question. Is there any way to "sneak" into National Parks like YNP? You know ...like a professional truck driver in a jeep???

Some parks, for example Zion, have two or more gates. The back gate at Zion closes about 5 or so. I reckon you can come early too. If you come in that way, there is no record unless they have cameras. In YNP, IIRC we came up from the south through Teton NP, the gate was dark and I think it was only about 4 pm(?) It's not Disneyland, but nowadays you might think so once inside!

 

[alter idem]

Thanks for the note.

I've read Ostling's book (and thought it was pretty well done), but haven't read Krakauer's. Despite being interested in the Daybell case, my real interests are not connected to extremist religious groups/violence, and so I can't claim any special expertise on this.

I've been reluctant to get into the Krakauer book partly because some (though not all) who read the book seem to take away the message that there's something about Mormonism that's uniquely prone to violent extremism. I prefer your position, and think there's plenty of backing for it historically and sociologically. That is, virtually any religion -- indeed any almost any complex system of thought, whether religious or non-religious -- can lead people to countenance and sometimes become involved with unspeakable horrors.

But it is true that each system of thought creates its own pathways that are useful to understand in specific situations.

I've read Jon Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven, It was a compelling read, but you have to take it with a big grain of salt, as he isn't accurate with his facts at times. He's got his own beliefs on things and he writes to support those beliefs. I kept wishing he'd had a member of the church do a sensitivity read/ edit of his book for him, to keep it accurate. He was also not careful in writing his book 'Into thin Air' also, which was a great read, but afterwards, I found out about all the inaccuracies, which he'd put in to make the story more of a interesting controversial event, rather than a tragedy. I started to read his book, 'Missoula' and had to give up, it was the same kinds of problems as the other two books.

 

[BigAl16]

I lead such a boring law abiding life ..This chick Lori Cox Lagioia Ryan Vallow Daybell has been a hot mess for a good 20 so odd yrs. MOO

Do you mean Lori Cox Nelson Lagioia Ryan Vallow Daybell or some other Lori?

Edit: See you fixed.

MOO

 

[DoctorAttorney]

This is my own opinion. I wouldn't trust Dr. Phil's opinion as far as I can throw him. His advice can be downright dangerous. Here is an article from a legitimate Psychologist that has an excellent article pointing this out:

Dr Phil and Domestic Violence: He Just Doesn't Get It - Shrink4Men

MOO

Dr. Phil is incredibly toxic. That being said, I'll watch the interview anyways because I'm curious...