Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #23

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  • #501
100% believe this to be the case. Per Justin Lum’s reporting, the email CD sent to LV “Seven missions to accomplish together” happened in Jan. 2019. The email from “CV”(aka LV) to CD was sent around June 28th 2019 according to MSM article linked below. Clearly a cover for CD and LV to rendezvous in AZ. JMO.

Arizona Police Investigating 'Suspicious' Email In Connection To Lori Vallow's Former Husband's Death
I bet you 100 percent that’s the reason why TD isn’t here anymore. CV probably threatened LV to send TD an email or contact her through phone and she didn’t like that. Who knows if he ever did.
 
  • #502
100% believe this to be the case. Per Justin Lum’s reporting, the email CD sent to LV “Seven missions to accomplish together” happened in Jan. 2019. The email from “CV”(aka LV) to CD was sent around June 28th 2019 according to MSM article linked below. Clearly a cover for CD and LV to rendezvous in AZ. JMO.

Arizona Police Investigating 'Suspicious' Email In Connection To Lori Vallow's Former Husband's Death
My questions: Did CD stay at Charles and Lori's house in November 2018 or was that part of the cover story meant for Tammy? Where did the family live back then? Were there other witnesses to Chad's stay? Did Charles talk to anyone about wanting to write a book?
 
  • #503
This entire post is only my opinion and my thoughts based on my life experience. I am doing my best to just touch on the highlights.

Ok, so according to this file this is saying that "translation" is referring to a "translated" being.
The only thing that I have heard taught about this is that people will change from being "mortal" to an "immortal", as it were a twinkling of the eye, instead of dying. This is after a bunch of events happen that is referenced in the book of Revelation. The chronological series of events, always confuses me though.

Apparently they believe that being an immortal is some type of ordination that can jump start this process, if I am understanding this correctly.

LMAO - "authorized immortal non-telestial beings" compared to what? an unauthorized immortal being. Yea, we can't have that, can we? :rolleyes:

Apparently the 144,000 they believe will all become these "translated" beings. Are we sure this isn't an elaborate retelling of "Highlander". Remember there can only be One!:mad:
It goes on to say that these 144,000 "immortals" will rescue all of us ordinary folks around the entire world (assuming we are LDS or "good" people). Which explains why they look down at us mere mortals. Apparently we are all singing songs of "everlasting joy", how did this become a musical, I thought this was Highlander?:confused:

OK, this is where they are getting one of their strange ideas from. Refer to D&C 77:11-12. Doctrine and Covenants 77
Evidently they forgot to read the very next verse that explains that this will happen after the opening of the 7th seal. I don't pretend to be an expert on all of this last day stuff, but I am pretty sure we aren't that far yet.

"Angels who have a charge from God, ortranslated beings fromthe City of Enoch are charged with administering this ordinance"

Well they have conveniently circumvented the need for actual Angels. According to this, Angel means 'messenger. Really, how convenient. :mad:

City of Enoch? Had to google that one. "According to a Samaritan tradition, Enoch was buried in Mount Ebal."

ROFLMAO. " So, apparently when we get baptized there are angels there and little flames that are spinning above your head. I literally can't make this up, I almost fell out of my chair.:D

I quote: " these men and women who are sharing their experiences give us information that you just can't find anywhere in the scriptures, and that you can’t find in the history the church." You think? :mad:

So, they specifically state that they are trying to "pierce the veil". Should ask them if they have ever heard the Bible story of when people tried to build the "Tower of Babel" to reach Heaven. The irony.

Ok, he goes on forever. The gist from what I can tell is that he thinks that "The Church of the Firstborn" can only be obtained by going to the Temple. The only way to get access to the Temple is through the COJCOLDS, and holding a valid temple recommend. They need access to the temple to become "immortal", supposedly. He explains his "mental gymnastics" and the groups personal interpretation of how this all fits together.

That is the brief overview, Questions?

MOO
Do you think many people will believe this? Is there money involved?
 
  • #504
Oh dang! It's two emails, one makes it sound like Charles was going to tell Tammy what was going on!
Additional motive for both murders of Charles and Tammy and proof of conspiracy to murder for Chad, IMO.
 
  • #505
Charles' letter to Adam also mentions the need to question Tylee. I wonder what was her knowledge of Lori's suspicious activities and if her disappearance is linked to it.
I take it to possibly mean that Tylee could know when the affair with Chad began or when their friendship began. Tylee could also have knowledge of the conspiracy to murder. No wonder she did not use social media very much. MOO.
 
  • #506
So Chad had stayed in Charles and Lori's guest room? But didn't know about the kids? Whatevs! MOO
I don't think he had actually stayed but it was a cover to give Tammy for Chad to be in Arizona to see Lori IMO. Devious b'stards.
 
  • #507
Wait! They need to question Tylee? Somehow she is involved in this email? Could this be more info that she somehow witnessed? And also, somehow Lori’s brother Adam was pulled into this evidence of an affair??? There is a lot of new info buried in this statement!

ETA clarity on Adam’s evident role in this email exchange.

I'm pretty sure the desire to question Tylee comes from the fact that she would have been living with CV and LVD when CD paid his visit.

To be fair, as far as we know, it was simply that Charles felt comfortable enough with his brother in law, Adam, that he could discuss this potential crisis in his marriage with him.

ETA: the screenshot provided by Leney, showing the actual email confirms this.

Talk about the wolf in sheep's clothing... poor CV confided in exactly the wrong person when he went to AC.

As to the Tylee question above, I'm guessing this adds a lot more to LE's need to talk with her, because it also opens up the fact that CV and AC clearly had, according to CV, a good relationship prior to Alex randomly up and killing Charles. They probably want Tylee, at minimum, to say what she thinks or knows about when the relationship changed; and why this didn't come up in part of her witness statement to the Chandler police.

An issue I have with your version is that if Tylee did piece together a plot of some type, it would be reasonable for her to confide in someone. We have no evidence that she told anyone that she had concerns. Thats odd to me. How would you explain that?

Maybe this will open some doors in CR's mind about some of his texts and chats with Tylee, retroactively.
 
  • #508
This is directed at the mods...

Your policies are in place for good reasons and I understand that. Protecting victims and protecting yourselves is very important. But this case is unique. There are a huge number of people on the periphery of the POIs that are engaged in activity which is highlt relevant. Your policies in this case are essentially harboring criminals. That's all I will say here but please contact me by PM if you'd like to know more.
I think you should contact LE not the mods. MOO.
 
  • #509
CV was confiding in Adam, not Alex. I would think CV obviously knew better than to confide in Alex.
 
  • #510
Looking at the recipe I wondered if the name was because they CAUSED funerals or were SERVED at funeral. But I am a thrillseeker at times and took a big scoop! I can affirm, they are "to die for!"

Now I want that recipe. I bet they're heavenly.
 
  • #511
I do. This is big. Unfortunately our hands are tied on this website because of policies.
You can post opinion. You are not allowed to post suggesting inside info as that is called baiting and against TOS, as is asking for someone to PM you. Too late for you to delete but just saying,
 
  • #512
Hopefully LE is monitoring here and will act accordingly.
How do you mean? If you know or suspect anything you need to go to LE.
 
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Rexburg, Idaho, is a micro-climate for this area. We are often 10-20F colder than surrounding areas, and still receiving snow. Decomposition is slow due to cold temperatures most of the year. Google would have the daily temperatures for the dates in question (I do not remember them, tired).
The storage was not rented till 1 October so where were Tylee and JJ from 8th/23rd Sept till 1 Oct?
 
  • #515
Sorry, I misunderstood that then completely in your original post.

I apologize also for being snippy, I did not realize until last night where we were misunderstanding each other. Thank you for explaining.
 
  • #516
Maybe Chad never travelled to Arizona because Charles intercepted the letter. What would have happened if he hadn't and Charles found Chad staying at Lori's place a week later?
This was June 29th right? I wonder if something similar happened in May 2019 when Chad cancelled a conference attendance due to a "family emergency"?
 
  • #517
I believe Chad is just as guilty as Lori, he knows about everything and participated.
That e-mail was probably a cover for Chad so he could come to Arizona without Tammy asking too many questions.
 
  • #518
I apologize also for being snippy, I did not realize until last night where we were misunderstanding each other. Thank you for explaining.
No problem. Glad we sorted it anyway.
 
  • #519
I think Tylee had to go so quickly (before JJ) to stop her communicating with Colby. She was old enough to understand the madness going on around her and was probably not holding back after Lori got rid of Bailey and started lying to more and more people about everything like college and jobs, and all the conspiring going on with Chad, Alex, MB and others. She couldn't be managed like JJ could, put to bed early with medicine, sent to school all day, iPad taken away. I expect Lori had a BIG problem with Tylee having wheels and a phone.

MOO
 
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