Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #12

[Lionsanddandelions]

That last warrant Justin Lum posted for LIFE Academy --- probable cause for homicide in the first degree? Does that translate to 1st degree murder? Have they been misleading us, underplaying CV investigation??

 

[squareandrabbet]

Gives me renewed faith in Chandler PD. They have been investigating her for conspiracy to commit homicide since 12/6/19. Woo Hoo!

Yeah, I was gonna say... they haven't really been asleep at the wheel after all, in retrospect, correct?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Also noting on this order of protection LV had a HI drivers license. Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

 

[arizonamomoffour]

That last warrant Justin Lum posted for LIFE Academy --- probable cause for homicide in the first degree? Does that translate to 1st degree murder? Have they been misleading us, underplaying CV invesitgation??

Misleading Lori and Alex? Hoping to trip them up?

 

[Lusitana]

What would be of interest on a elementary school kid's record? Would that include anything discussed between the child and, let's say, a school counselor? That wouldn't be okay, right?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

What would be of interested on a elementary school kid's record? Would that include anything discussed between the child and, let's say, a school counselor? That wouldn't be okay, right?

Sure... or if he went to school on July 11.

 

[Lusitana]

Sure... or if he went to school on July 11.

Really? Would that information be included on his school record?

 

[arizonamomoffour]

What would be of interest on a elementary school kid's record? Would that include anything discussed between the child and, let's say, a school counselor? That wouldn't be okay, right?

Anything, literally. Clothes, parents, if the child is fed, clean, ill health. Schools keep records "for their eyes only" (or the next school).

 

[Colorado303]

Interesting that the school search warrant, Dated Dec 6th gave cause as relating to a murder that took place in July. It was a Chandler PD warrant so someone must have gotten a cattle prod out and poked them a bit. Apparently there was nothing they found in those records or the restraining order CV filed in Feb that caused them to worry their little heads that perhaps they got the self defense thing wrong. The RO detailed two occasions when LV threatened CV’s life. An eye witness could appear and swear they saw Lori or Alex shoot CV in cold blood, and I expect CPD would accuse them of lying and send them on their way.

MOO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Here is a question I have for legal eagles.

The order of protection included JJ. Then CV dropped it. Does our system follow up in any way to know that a child is safe for that order to be dropped? Does CPS investigate or is this a dropped ball or loophole?

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Evidence being searched for conspiracy to commit homicide. Against who?!? Jmo

ETA oh date given July 11. It's against Charles murder.

Well, looks like they didn't necessarily believe it was self defense after all.

 

[Mitch1]

Interesting that the school search warrant, Dated Dec 6th gave cause as relating to a murder that took place in July. It was a Chandler PD warrant so someone must have gotten a cattle prod out and poked them a bit. Apparently there was nothing they found in those records or the restraining order CV filed in Feb that caused them to worry their little heads that perhaps they got the self defense thing wrong. The RO detailed two occasions when LV threatened CV’s life. An eye witness could appear and swear they saw Lori or Alex shoot CV in cold blood, and I expect CPD would accuse them of lying and send them on their way.

MOO

Exactly-Rexburg and FBI had to have them do what they should have done back in July!

 

[CSIDreamer]

Also noting on this order of protection LV had a HI drivers license. Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

Well, well. Maybe it wasn't an ID card after all! Jmo

 

[arizonamomoffour]

Interesting that the school search warrant, Dated Dec 6th gave cause as relating to a murder that took place in July. It was a Chandler PD warrant so someone must have gotten a cattle prod out and poked them a bit. Apparently there was nothing they found in those records or the restraining order CV filed in Feb that caused them to worry their little heads that perhaps they got the self defense thing wrong. The RO detailed two occasions when LV threatened CV’s life. An eye witness could appear and swear they saw Lori or Alex shoot CV in cold blood, and I expect CPD would accuse them of lying and send them on their way.

MOO

My own experience with them and the DV from my ex, was not good. Lacking in DV experience from officers and their supervisors.

 

[arizonamomoffour]

Does anyone think that Lori will use the location of her children to bargain now?

 

[Colorado303]

Gives me renewed faith in Chandler PD. They have been investigating her for conspiracy to commit homicide since 12/6/19. Woo Hoo!

Yes, but since then they’ve publicly stated multiple times that they have no reason to question the original reports and conclusions that it was a self defense shooting. And that the only reason the case is still open is because of the missing kids.

Unfortunately I don’t share your renewed faith. I have no faith at all unless some other LE agency steps in to take over.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Interesting that the school search warrant, Dated Dec 6th gave cause as relating to a murder that took place in July. It was a Chandler PD warrant so someone must have gotten a cattle prod out and poked them a bit. Apparently there was nothing they found in those records or the restraining order CV filed in Feb that caused them to worry their little heads that perhaps they got the self defense thing wrong. The RO detailed two occasions when LV threatened CV’s life. An eye witness could appear and swear they saw Lori or Alex shoot CV in cold blood, and I expect CPD would accuse them of lying and send them on their way.

MOO

Investigations take time, often months or even years.

 

[Mitch1]

Kim Powell on Twitter

Kim Powell: Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell’s #Kauai condo seems quiet right now. Neighbors said they’ve only seen them once since Saturday. All curtains are shut, no answer at the door. I’m live in #Hawaii with the latest on the case of the #MissingSiblings from #Idaho on #azfamily

Oh, hhhmm sounds like maybe the police should do a well fair check

 

[Lusitana]

Anything, literally. Clothes, parents, if the child is fed, clean, ill health. Schools keep records "for their eyes only" (or the next school).

Oh wow. I had no idea.

 

[kye0001]

What would be of interest on a elementary school kid's record? Would that include anything discussed between the child and, let's say, a school counselor? That wouldn't be okay, right?

I know in the UK we record anything that is cause for concern, any off the cuff statements that a child may make that cause alarm but don’t (yet) warrant a call to child and family services.

We would keep records of attendance, records of bruises, anything really that causes concern and may be needed at a later date. The last sentence in the statement from the school was very telling tbh ‘JJ Loved to talk about his family’.

MOO that’s come on advice from the police and it’s to let LV know little JJ said a lot already before she pulled him out of school. All MOO