Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #12

[Ohmeohmy]

Febuary 6,2020
Yellow Ribbons on trees at Laurens Institute for Education in Gilbert, Az. to support missing student JJ & his sister Tylee Vallows safe return ⁦
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[Rush4087]

She had left that job long before the report on JJ was filed.

Wasn't there also a former Chandler, AZ cop (who had reportedly retired for health reasons) who was once affiliated with AVOW?

 

[nopynono]

Wasn't there also a former Chandler, AZ cop (who had reportedly retired for health reasons) who was once affiliated with AVOW?

Also left many years before Charles' shooting. Not that he couldnt still know people in the department, but likely not someone who will help him cover up a murder.

 

[Gardener1850]

I took some time this afternoon to group together some relevant addresses and maps organized loosely by events. These are in the media thread in separate posts for easy reference:

Map and Addresses for reference RE: July 11 2019, The day Charles Vallow was shot to death:

5531 S 4 Peaks Pl, Chandler, AZ 85249 (The home where CV was killed)

1305 S Gilbert Rd, Gilbert, AZ 85296 (LIFE Academy, JJ's School)

1950 S Santan Village Pkwy, Gilbert, AZ (Tru by Hilton, the hotel where CV was staying)

2865 E Ocotillo Rd, Chandler, AZ 85249 (Nearest Burger King Location to the house; Lori suggested CV take JJ to BK instead of the Hotel for breakfast)

MAP: خرائط ‪Google

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Addresses and Map for reference, RE: Oct 2, 2019 the day Brandon B was shot at in his driveway (911 call was abt 9:14 am) :

Cooley Station, Gilbert, AZ 85295 (The neighborhood where the shooting took place)

E Pecos Rd & S Recker Rd, Gilbert, AZ 85297 (BB says the Jeep drove south between Peccos and Recker)

E Phelps St & S Fisher Ln, Gilbert, AZ 85295 (BB gives 911 operator as crossroads of where he is waiting in his car for police to arrive after the shooting).

433 Airport Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Self Storage Plus, where Lori and a man were seen abt 1:28 pm on Oct 2)

565 Pioneer Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Location of 3 Townhouses where welfare check related search warrants were served)

Boise, Idaho (The city Melani told Brandon she was moving to)

All locations mapped: خرائط ‪Google

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Map and Addresses of possible relevance to Tammy Daybell's death on Oct 19th, 2019:

202 N 1900 E, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Salem Home where Tammy died and police served search warrants)

102 Park Ave, Sugar City, ID 83448 (Central Elementary School,where Tammy was libraian)

400 S 200 W St, Springville, UT 84663 (Springville City Cemetery, where Tammy was interred Oct 22 and Chad previously worked as sexton)

2001 N 3000 W, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Henry’s Fork Stake Center where ID memorial service was held for Tammy Oct 23)*

*Correction Tammy's ID memorial was held at Hibbard Chapel, 1508 Ball Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440 per our VI RexburgSleuth, the location was incorrect on her obituary

520 Park Ave, Idaho Falls, ID 83402 (Falls Printing, where Chad previously worked)

565 Pioneer Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Lori's Townhouse location)

433 Airport Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Self Storage Plus where Lori had a storage locker)

Map of all locations: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

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Map and Addresses RE: The disappearance of JJ and Tylee Sept 2019

565 Pioneer Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Lori's Townhouse)

433 Airport Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Self Storage Plus, where Lori had a storage locker)

60 S 5th W, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Kennedy Elementary, JJ's School from Sept 3-Sept 23)

202 N 1900 E, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Salem Home where Chad and Tammy lived)

Brigham Young University-Idaho (Lori told a neighbor she moved to go to school)

25 E Main St, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Rexburg Police Department)

333 Walker Dr, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Health & Welfare Department)

Map of all locations: خرائط ‪Google

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Map and Addresses RE: The Island of Kaua'i, Hawaii

4141 Queen Emma's Dr Apt 3, Princeville, HI 96722 (Location Chad and Lori signed "long term" rental agreement in Dec 2019)

Aloalii Dr, Kalihiwai, HI 96722 (Location Lori previously lived with Charles Vallow between 2014-2017; They also rented 3 different places on Queen Emma's Dr)

Anini Beach, Kalihiwai, HI 96754 (Lori posted a photo from here on her Instagram in 2016)

Kauai Beach Resort, 4331 Kauai Beach Dr, Lihue, HI 96766 (Lori and Chad stopped by LE and served search Warrants Jan 25, 2020; Also Lori's favorite resort per KW)

Kaua'i Marriott Resort, 3610 Rice St, Lihue, HI 96766 (Lori and Chad stayed on Jan 27th, 2020)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 4561 Ohia St, Kapaʻa, HI 96746 (Lori and Chad spotted going to church here on Feb 2, 2020)

Kauaʻi Police Department, 3990 Kaana St #200, Lihue, HI 96766

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I'm sure I've missed some locations as there are so many places to keep straight in this multi-case case. This is like following 5 or 6 crime threads at once but all events intertwine with the two POI's in JJ and Tylee's disappearance. Any suggestions for what else should be mapped?

 

[Avocado49]

I was looking for any official connections between IP and CD, aside from living in the same vicinity, and it looks like they share the same lawyer. IP was represented by SB back in April 2019

https://mycourts.idaho.gov/odysseyp...0pUoOep4szm4F3Q2&tabIndex=3#DispositionEvents

Good old Sean B was probably recommended to Lori by IP. What a skeezy attorney, hope he gets dis-barred after all this.

 

[tealrose]

Thanks for the quantitative analysis. $30k per month seemed doubtful for any writer besides Steven King

An older number (2016,from Forbes) had Stephen King at 40 million/year.

$40,000,000 / 365 would put him at over 109k a DAY, or well over 3 million a month.

And that's in traditional publishing, where royalties are a tiny percentage in comparison to what indie authors currently receive per book.

There's an awful lot more people making six and even seven figures as indie writers than you'd think, if all you know is the starving writer model of traditional publishing.

 

[BigAl16]

An older number (2016,from Forbes) had Stephen King at 40 million/year.

$40,000,000 / 365 would put him at over 109k a DAY, or well over 3 million a month.

And that's in traditional publishing, where royalties are a tiny percentage in comparison to what indie authors currently receive per book.

There's an awful lot more people making six and even seven figures as indie writers than you'd think, if all you know is the starving writer model of traditional publishing.

You're definitely right about this. But Chad Daybell isn't just no Stephen King. He's also no Hugh Howey or Joe Konrath. He's not even a Victorine Lieske (who I happen to know went to college in Rexburg). MOO.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

2001 N 3000 W, Rexburg, ID 83440 (Henry’s Fork Stake Center where ID memorial service was held for Tammy Oct 23)

Correction to your list is needed. There was a misprint in the obituary and program. I imagine this is why many people were arriving late. The correct address is:
1508 Ball Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440
The address listed is the Hibbard chapel, not the Stake Center.
On that note: it had been asked how many were in attendance for her memorial service. I'd say between 85 to 125. The chapel is fairly large and was not full by any means, especially as there was overflow open.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

Alex Cox gun

ALEX COX’S GUN: More details on the initial second-degree murder of Charles Vallow that Chandler Police currently rule as a self-defense homicide. This report details the findings of the fun Cox used in the shooting. A Springfield XD .45 caliber handgun lying on the carpet next to an orange duffel bag. Inside the bag, a black hard sided case with .45 caliber magazines and ammunition. The detective recalls the magazine having five cartridges inside. The magazine indicated 13 cartridges could be loaded. The rest of the report describes the blood found in the kitchen sink, layout of the home and no sign that Charles had been moved.

 

[Gardener1850]

Correction to your list is needed. There was a misprint in the obituary and program. I imagine this is why many people were arriving late. The correct address is:
1508 Ball Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440
The address listed is the Hibbard chapel, not the Stake Center.
On that note: it had been asked how many were in attendance for her memorial service. I'd say between 85 to 125. The chapel is fairly large and was not full by any means, especially as there was overflow open.

Thank you! It was too late to edit my post in the media thread but I made a note of the correction.
Would you say that 85-125 is an average number for funerals/memorials there? I suppose many of Tammy's students/parents came. I'm also wondering about how typical it is for a Tuesday Funeral and Wednesday Memorial? Where I'm from that it is not very common to have funeral/memorials on weekdays. They are almost always on the weekend to allow for out of state family and friends to travel. My circle of friends (Non-LDS) would also have trouble making it to a Wednesday memorial because that is a common night for church activities where I live. Could the day of the week and the speed at which her services were planned have impacted how many people could come? (Again, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend Tammy-- it must still be hard to process all this)

 

[CSIDreamer]

The police officer made the decision to clean the pool of blood. What? Jmo.

 

[Dontknow?]

At Charles probate link, it lists CV's 3 sons, including JJ with c/o Lori. It also says that his 3 marriages ended in divorce, including to Lori. Page 3-4 of 6 filed 1/14/20. Also says CV was unmarried at the time of death.

https://www.cclerk.hctx.net/applica...HfPTAShK/AqYNWI4pwi2adIFFZ+R+A7wi4XJzg/kETg==

 

[RexburgSleuth]

How did we miss this one?
this video states that the group moved to Rexburg and that "Robertson later tracked them there and set up surveillance."
He says: "We saw them unloading a U-Haul that they rented in Arizona and took to Rexburg, and we saw where they were living, uh, but we didn't see the kids."

New details come to light about family members of missing Rexburg kids

Surely, we're not supposed to believe that he was hired by BB to follow the family to Rexburg BEFORE the shooting., are we? When did they see unloading a U-Haul? What would they have left in AZ and needed to move up there? Was that moving AC there? MB? Whenever that was, hopefully that can help establish more concretely, when exactly the children were hidden.
If Oct 2 was the shooting and Oct 16 was MB's text about moving to Boise. I can imagine that's when the PI group followed and surveilled. PI states the kids were missing at that point, so we've got to assume they were disappeared prior to October 16. We see the bikes loaded Oct 28th-snowed that day BTW. We don't know how much of the kids' personal stuff was loaded or when, just prior to Nov 27th Warrant Search.

 

[Rush4087]

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

Alex Cox gun

ALEX COX’S GUN: More details on the initial second-degree murder of Charles Vallow that Chandler Police currently rule as a self-defense homicide. This report details the findings of the fun Cox used in the shooting. A Springfield XD .45 caliber handgun lying on the carpet next to an orange duffel bag. Inside the bag, a black hard sided case with .45 caliber magazines and ammunition. The detective recalls the magazine having five cartridges inside. The magazine indicated 13 cartridges could be loaded. The rest of the report describes the blood found in the kitchen sink, layout of the home and no sign that Charles had been moved.

Was it ever determined how many shots were fired? I remember reading that CV had 2 bullet wounds (I think). But then I remember an officer cam video where one cop asks another cop something like: "how many you got (or count) there, 3, 4, 5..?"

Just thinking if AC knew he'd be using the gun (even if he wasn't anticipating a shootout at the OK Corral), why not have a full mag in it?

He may have removed some cartridges before LE got there to conceal premeditation. Pretty sharp if he did.

ETA: and no mention of a silencer..

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

Alex Cox gun

ALEX COX’S GUN: More details on the initial second-degree murder of Charles Vallow that Chandler Police currently rule as a self-defense homicide. This report details the findings of the fun Cox used in the shooting. A Springfield XD .45 caliber handgun lying on the carpet next to an orange duffel bag. Inside the bag, a black hard sided case with .45 caliber magazines and ammunition. The detective recalls the magazine having five cartridges inside. The magazine indicated 13 cartridges could be loaded. The rest of the report describes the blood found in the kitchen sink, layout of the home and no sign that Charles had been moved.

I am sure others are more qualified to answer but a .45 caliber? Where I come from it isn’t a typical pistol to carry for self-defense unless you are concerned about running into a bear. MOO

 

[Rush4087]

How did we miss this one?
this video states that the group moved to Rexburg and that "Robertson later tracked them there and set up surveillance."
He says: "We saw them unloading a U-Haul that they rented in Arizona and took to Rexburg, and we saw where they were living, uh, but we didn't see the kids."

New details come to light about family members of missing Rexburg kids

Surely, we're not supposed to believe that he was hired by BB to follow the family to Rexburg BEFORE the shooting., are we? When did they see unloading a U-Haul? What would they have left in AZ and needed to move up there? Was that moving AC there? MB? Whenever that was, hopefully that can help establish more concretely, when exactly the children were hidden.
If Oct 2 was the shooting and Oct 16 was MB's text about moving to Boise. I can imagine that's when the PI group followed and surveilled. PI states the kids were missing at that point, so we've got to assume they were disappeared prior to October 16. We see the bikes loaded Oct 28th-snowed that day BTW. We don't know how much of the kids' personal stuff was loaded or when, just prior to Nov 27th Warrant Search.

I think the quote was "we saw them loading the U-Haul they rented in Arizona and took to Rexburg and we saw where they were living..." So the PI could've been reporting on events that all occurred in Rexburg after 10/2 (even though perhaps the U-Haul had been rented in AZ).

But if the U-Haul had been rented in AZ around late Aug, that's a long time to keep the rental..

 

[Queasy Gumshoe]

Interesting...New details come to light about family members of missing Rexburg kids

WHOA!! Like TOTALLY!!!

 

[Friday Fan]

At Charles probate link, it lists CV's 3 sons, including JJ with c/o Lori. It also says that his 3 marriages ended in divorce, including to Lori. Page 3-4 of 6 filed 1/14/20. Also says CV was unmarried at the time of death.

https://www.cclerk.hctx.net/applications/websearch/CourtSearch_R.aspx?ID=5rboVfNJYS8mH7Mxhu4+EXdun+MG8eiBZcN4ql/cFBvbGfxrolzhV9nvY0f4uGzwCFV6d+WQHHCZwyazKBGRM2zwpsngrP1HurtmU2W/DHwHfPTAShK/AqYNWI4pwi2adIFFZ+R+A7wi4XJzg/kETg==

Very, very interesting. I'm gonna have to create my free account to read the documents. I'm going to a training, so I won't have time until later tonight.

(A sign that a case is moving along is when you wish you didn't have other stuff to do!!)

 

[Gardenkeep]

^^That article is bringing to mind some questions. Especially this sentence: "Melani Boudreaux and Cox would remarry people in Rexburg...."

What was the purpose of Alex going to Rexburg? He lived in the Phoenix subs (he had a home there, whether he owned it or not, did he just abandon it?). His new wife was from Phoenix. They married in Las Vegas. He died in Phoenix (apparently at his new wife's home?).

What was Rexburg all about for him?

Also...the family tree in that article is just useless and confusing.

Agree. This event involving all 3 siblings is the critical point, imo.

 

[Gardener1850]

MikeGalanosHLN
@MikeGalanosHLN
J.J. and Tylee have been missing for 136 days -- and their mom is still in Hawaii with her new husband. Why won't #LoriVallow tell police where her children are? Today we heard her voice for the first time -- through police bodycam.
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12:47 PM · Feb 6, 2020

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