Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #12

[jjenny]

Perhaps it was not Alex. Why is the anonymous Lori family member so certain it was Alex? Very convenient. We were getting Alex and Chad mixed up on the storage video so perhaps it looked like Alex on the Jeep footage but was someone else?

It's no longer an anonymous family member. I posted a link to an msm source that says Brandon believed that Alex was the one who tried to kill him.
New details come to light about family members of missing Rexburg kids

 

[IronOrchid]

Posting and catching up.

I'm not sure about that. I interpreted it as about evenly divided. What I could see:

Boy's bike
Girls bike
Girls ice skates
Ball glove
Tylee's picture blanket
JJ's picture blanket
2 pair boots (size unknown)
Larger gloves
Photo book of Jj
A "Colby" jersey
Picture of Colby and Tylee

Jmo

I'll give you the bike because it does look like those handlebars are pink. Not sold on the skates.

 

[indicolite22]

I don't exactly know, but by the same token, why store an old tire. The point I was trying to get at is, to me, the storage locker seems to be for JJ's benefit, not Tylee's.

I think it was for Lori's benefit. When the person in the video (presumably Alex) who visited with Lori looks around before taking a heavy object out of the unit, it seems obvious that they didn't want to be seen. Which means that they thought it could be incriminating.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

New information. Brandon believed that the person who tried to kill him was Alex. Yet Alex was supposedly in Idaho visiting the locker on Oct 2nd. Maybe that's why police couldn't make an arrest? Seems like Alex had a pretty good alibi being in another state? But how is that possible?
"Brandon Boudreaux claims the person who tried to shoot him was also Cox."
New details come to light about family members of missing Rexburg kids

Green Jeep Cherokee? We need cars list for Charles again. I don't recall a Cherokee on it. Do Cherokee's (of whichever year it was) have removable rear seats?

Gotta be something wrong with the storage video or storage timeline (maybe off a day?). Besides MB, there really is no logical suspect. I think it was AC. He owned a handgun. Probably had a silencer. Left Rexburg with the kids the last week of September. I can't explain the 12 hr drive in less time, but I think he managed to do it.

In the video at the storage unit is a large gun case like a rifle case.

Perhaps it was not Alex. Why is the anonymous Lori family member so certain it was Alex? Very convenient. We were getting Alex and Chad mixed up on the storage video so perhaps it looked like Alex on the Jeep footage but was someone else?

Alex's truck on the storage unit footage. Clearly his or an exact copy of it as we learn from bodycam footage in AZ where he says it's his.

 

[earthgurl]

Oh no, I was totally serious! I like facts. If we had a court reporter/stenographer in our ranks I'd probably suggest they get verified too. If you don't want to go through the trouble to get verified for the amount of times it comes up, though, I totally understand.

I also like facts! Maybe I will look into getting verified.

 

[indicolite22]

I know, but this is an msm source. Yet Alex was supposedly in Idaho on that day? Again, how is that possible?

Yes, it's a confirmation. I also remember reading that Brandon did not see Alex personally, just the surveillance footage. If he did see him it could be more reliable that video evidence. On the other hand, if it wasn't Alex in the storage video, was it also someone else in other parts of the surveillance footage at the storage? That would mean that Lori had another right hand man.

 

[IronOrchid]

I think it was for Lori's benefit. When the person in the video (presumably Alex) who visited with Lori looks around before taking a heavy object out of the unit, it seems obvious that they didn't want to be seen. Which means that they thought it could be incriminating.

We need to find out what that object was.

 

[indicolite22]

It's no longer an anonymous family member. I posted a link to an msm source that says Brandon believed that Alex was the one who tried to kill him.
New details come to light about family members of missing Rexburg kids

I understood that the family member also got the information from Brandon, so no discrepancy there.

 

[IronOrchid]

Yes, it's a confirmation. I also remember reading that Brandon did not see Alex personally, just the surveillance footage. If he did see him it could be more reliable that video evidence. On the other hand, if it wasn't Alex in the storage video, was it also someone else in other parts of the surveillance footage at the storage? That would mean that Lori had another right hand man.

Lori does not need more men... They all end up either dead or connected to major felonies somehow.

 

[Colorado303]

I find this detail about Bailey, JJ's dog, incredibly shocking:-

Cheryl told the news outlet that Charles had bought he and Lori’s adopted son Joshua “JJ” Vallow, who is reportedly autistic, trained service dog. She said that JJ became best friends with Bailey, the labradoodle, and that her sons also loved spending time with the dog and their stepbrother.

She claimed that shortly after Charles died, Lori Vallow tried to sell the dog.

“Three weeks after Charles was killed, Lori put the dog up for sale. She listed it for $2,500, and it was so shocking because Bailey was such an important part of JJ’s life,” Cheryl told East Idaho News.

“Fortunately the trainer saw the listing and told Lori she had to give it back to the rescue group. They were able to take him back and re-home the dog to another special-needs boy.”

ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

Golden Doodle, Fully Trained Service Dog, Dogs and Puppies
$ 2,500
Reference Number
RF748730
Title
Golden Doodle, Fully Trained Service Dog
Breed
Golden Doodle
Age
2 Day(s)
Gender
Male
Description
Bailey has such a sweet spirit- he has brought so much love to his home, but his owner recently died and he needs a new home. He is fully trained with certification as a service dog. Up to date on vaccinations. Has been trained with children in the home, non-smoking home. Bailey is sweet and friendly around other dogs. Looking for new owners who will appreciate and love him the way he has been loved! Spent 7,000 on service training, he is a full bred golden doodle, has experience on airplanes, has experience with people with autism.
Posted
Aug 09, 2019
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ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE* NO DISCUSSION

BBM

I know she is referring to Charles when she says his owner, but what is so shocking is that Bailey was in service to JJ, not Charles, and she alludes to it being the person Bailey was in service to - JJ - who had died. Charles couldn't have been looking after Bailey while he was staying in hotels and traveling with work. It's utterly heartless.

Oh and who actually spent the money on his training? The trainers words read to me like he was already trained when they got him.

Up to now I had missed the part that Lori placed the ad on August 9th, weeks before even moving to ID. JJ was clearly alive at the time. Absolutely heartless to take away a child’s dog weeks after their father dies. Seriously, no mother who gives a damn would do that.

Clearly LV is a no typical mother, but still the timing seems weird. Selling a dog requires taking phone calls, answering questions, scheduling meetings. Seems like she’d have bigger fish to fry. And once the dog was gone she’d have to console JJ and possibly defend her decision to Tylee and others. So why get rid of the dog then? Some possibilities:

1). She needed the money.

Unlikely. Even if her cash baggie was empty, it would be easier/less hassle to sell something else— like one of the many vehicles these guys have been juggling.

2). She knew JJ was going away someplace where he wouldn’t need or couldn’t take the dog

Maybe, and that would mean she knew months in advance JJ was going to disappear. Or possibly just thought they’d all be moving to Hawaii and didn’t want to deal w/the paperwork required.

3). She was sick of dealing with a dog

Entirely possible. But why go to the trouble of finding a new home for him when she could just have Alex leave him in the desert like she had w/previous dogs according to JJ’s family. (I’m extremely glad she didn’t!)

4). She was going to live with someone who is allergic to dogs. Or hates them.

@RexburgSleuth or others who knew Chad, did he have dogs? Was he allergic?

 

[tresir2012]

If I had to guess (and I do), Chad is... well, I don't think he killed his wife. I think he went off the rails after his wife died. Maybe he loves Lori, maybe he's just along for the ride, whatever. But he strikes me as the kind of man who was whipped in a good way his entire life, from his mother to his wife. Then that went away and he fell for what was essentially, a hot con artist. Not because he wanted to but because he got smelled out as easy prey.

He and Lori have been seeing each other for at least a year and possibly since 2017 according to family statements.

 

[CSIDreamer]

It mainly seems like guns and gun cases and removing tyres and car seats. What would that have to do with a 7 year old?

The thing is, we really don't know past the tire if there were guns, gun cases, and the back seat of a Jeep. It's all speculation. Jmo.

 

[IronOrchid]

He and Lori have been seeing each other for at least a year and possibly since 2017 according to family statements.

I should clarify, I didn't mean he fell for her as in, he just decided to hook up with her when his wife died. I meant he made the descion to marry/run away with Lori after his wife died. In other words, the affair advanced.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I'll give you the bike because it does look like those handlebars are pink. Not sold on the skates.

They're white girl's skates.

 

[jjenny]

Lori does not need more men... They all end up either dead or connected to major felonies somehow.

Well, if they end up dead, how does she not need more of them?

 

[tresir2012]

Kim Powell on Twitter

Kauai police await orders from Idaho on next step for 'Doomsday Couple'

5 Feb 2020

[...]

"We did see them once coming out of the garage, getting into their car and going for dinner," said Mark Echeveria, who is vacationing in the same resort. "They waved 'hi' and we waved back and just went on about our business, didn't dawn on us who they were."

Echeveria said he's only seen the couple once since he arrived in Princeville on Saturday.

"I noticed some of the cars going by in the front here and they were all looking back at this unit and I go, 'What the heck is that guy looking at?' And he just, he almost drove his car off the road he was looking so hard," said Echeveria.

Idaho authorities gave Lori five days to return to Rexburg with JJ and Tylee to prove they were OK, but she never showed up.

"It's a bizarre story and I just hope they find those children and they find them healthy and alive. But it sounds weird," Echeveria said.

Read more: Kauai police await orders from Idaho on next step for 'Doomsday Couple'

Ha ha so the heat is on them in Kauai. Good. Maybe those posters did it. @Portiz34

Love that everyone driving by is looking at the house they are in.

 

[jjenny]

I understood that the family member also got the information from Brandon, so no discrepancy there.

There is no discrepancy, but now we have an msm confirmation that Brandon believed that the person who tried to kill him was Alex. Yet police never made an arrest. Maybe because Alex had an alibi of being in another state?

 

[tresir2012]

They're white girl's skates.

I guess you meant girl's white skates. .

 

[kye0001]

Up to now I had missed the part that Lori placed the ad on August 9th, weeks before even moving to ID. JJ was clearly alive at the time. Absolutely heartless to take away a child’s dog weeks after their father dies. Seriously, no mother who gives a damn would do that.

Clearly LV is a no typical mother, but still the timing seems weird. Selling a dog requires taking phone calls, answering questions, scheduling meetings. Seems lime she’d have bigger fish to fry. And once the dog was gone she’d have to console JJ and possibly defend her decision to Tylee and others. So why get rid of the dog then? Some possibilities:

1). She needed the money.

Unlikely. Even if her cash baggie was empty, it would be easier/less hassle to sell something else— like one of the many vehicles these guys have been juggling.

2). She knew JJ was going away someplace where he wouldn’t need or couldn’t take the dog

Maybe, and that would mean she knew months in advance JJ was going to disappear. Or possibly just thought they’d all be moving to Hawaii and didn’t want to deal w/the paperwork required.

3). She was sick of dealing with a dog

Entirely possible. But why go to the trouble of finding a new home for him when she could just have Alex leave him in the desert like she had w/previous dogs according to JJ’s family. (I’m extremely glad she didn’t!)

4). She was going to live with someone who is allergic to dogs. Or hates them.

@RexburgSleuth or others who knew Chad, did he have dogs? Was he allergic?

Unlike the other dogs this one was trained and worth a lot of money. I don’t know her reason for getting rid of it but it’s probably the reason for selling him as opposed to taking him to the dessert. I suspect she will have been pretty annoyed when the rescue she got him from saw her ad.

What will she tell JJ? Possibly that it had died/ran away/the horrible rescue took it back as he wasn’t looking after it properly (anything that wasn’t her fault). I don’t know but it stinks whichever way as that dog will have really helped him. I’m just glad that the rescue saw the advert tbh. MOO

 

[CSIDreamer]

I guess you meant girl's white skates. .

Omg yes! Ha ha.

As a matter of fact they are Lake Placid Glider 4000 Women's Figure Skates in the color of white.