Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #12

[Colorado303]

Did Justin determine if MB made her recent court date??

In the comments section someone asked that and he said he’s been told she pled not guilty. Sounds like he’s not sure if she showed up in person or not.

 

[tresir2012]

I fell like I'm too drunk to add to this conversation meaningfully at this point, but I'll try.

Probably best to stay off the net at times like that

 

[tresir2012]

Is Officer Sloppy Report the same guy who mopped up CV’s blood?

I couldn't read the article but thought they were maybe talking about podcast ex cop.

 

[tresir2012]

They aren’t executors, they’re creditors. They apparently lent his company $200,000 back in 2016.

Are that makes sense. I always thought debts died with the person but I guess I was wrong.

 

[tresir2012]

As you agreed with the previous comment, most men (or women), would use a gun holster. Unless I missed something in the police report, he stored his .45 caliber pistol in a plastic gun case in his duffel bag, rather than in a holster on his person.

I think he probably does have a holster but as he had the gun in a case in a duffel bag that could indicate the shooting was not pre planned perhaps. However, he could also have had the gun on his person knowing that CV was expected and then lied to LE about retrieving the gun from his bedroom for self defence purposes. MOO.

 

[tresir2012]

Does anyone have any specific details about the podcast that Chad and Lori supposedly made in September? When? Where? Content?
If it exists and has been pulled does that necessarily mean it’s gone or could people have downloaded it? Transcripts?

Several of us have looked and never found a copy. There are various links but none of them work. The media company took it down. If you do find a copy anywhere, I would be interested in what it was about as it was the last one they made before this all blew up.

 

[tresir2012]

It seems to me that if JJ was living in the home then that firearm should have been locked up or at least have had a trigger lock on it. At the very least, stored separately from the ammo. In that case it would have taken time to retrieve it and make it ready to fire. Alex makes it sound like it all went down quickly. MOO.

Perhaps it was a lockable gun case? But I agree about the time needed to retrieve it and load if necessary.

 

[mrjitty]

So I am just trying to get my head around the latest insanity

Melani Boudreaux actually moved to Idaho from Arizona without her kids shortly after her aunt Lori did. Relatives say they both joined a religious cult led by Chad Daybell.

Melani left her kids and ran off to Idaho to join the Chad death cult with Lori, according to relatives

Her ex-husband Brandon was shot at by someone who seems to have been Alex with the distinctive jeep?

“911, where’s your emergency?” asks the dispatcher who takes the call.

A frazzled voice on the line answers: “Um, someone just shot my window.”

The person who called in is Brandon Boudreaux. He said another man shot at him as Brandon drove home. Pictures show the shots shattered the driver’s side window of Brandon’s car.

Like what the hell?

Boudreaux told Fox 13 he believed the shooting was related to his ex-wife Melani Boudreaux’s newfound religious beliefs—Beliefs she shared with her aunt, Lori Vallow-Daybell.

Basically this guy would have been victim 6?

The body count is wild

 

[jjenny]

It also notes the officer:

1). Took pictures of blood around the faucet but did not swab it

2). Took it upon himself to clean CV’s blood up before Alex returned to the house.

WHAT!!???

So much for blood pattern evidence.

If they didn’t redact that, makes you wonder what they did redact (as almost half the document is redacted).

Yea, so much for hoping there was some sort of investigation of blood patterns and such. What good does a picture of blood around the faucet do if you can't tell whose blood that is?
Has anybody ever heard of such a thing? Cop shows up at the scene where a guy has just been killed, and decides to clean up a large spill of blood? Why did he want to clean up the blood before Alex returned to the house? Did he know Alex personally? So the cop was in there mopping up blood at a crime scene and not collecting swabs. The mind boggles.

 

[jjenny]

You know what this case really lacks? A motive. The life insurance payouts weren't all that big, and the family and relatives atill had ties to the kids or the deceased. Say Lori and whoever did kill whoever due to a cult, which we don't know yet. How does the cult profit?

A million $ is not really big? People have been killed for one $, let alone a million.

 

[jjenny]

Yes, I read that. So Lori finds out that Kay is the beneficiary after the fact. Think Lori might be mad? Making JJ disappear would be a good way to hurt Kay.

Kay did say Lori was mad after she found out that she no longer was the beneficiary.

 

[jjenny]

I just can't imagine cop showing up a the scene of a crime and then cleaning up a large amount of blood before the man who killed and shot the victim returns, and yet it clearly happened after Charles was killed. That can't be SOP, can it? There are no manuals that say "clean up victim's blood before his killer returns back to the scene?" And how did the cop know Alex was going to return to the scene? I am assuming Alex was taken in for questioning (but he didn't live in the house, and there was a chance he could have been charged and arrested after questioning), and yet the cop somehow knew Alex was coming back to the house? What gives?

 

[Sachi]

I just can't imagine cop showing up a the scene of a crime and then cleaning up a large amount of blood before the man who killed and shot the victim returns, and yet it clearly happened after Charles was killed. That can't be SOP, can it? There are no manuals that say "clean up victim's blood before his killer returns back to the scene?" And how did the cop know Alex was going to return to the scene? I am assuming Alex was taken in for questioning (but he didn't live in the house, and there was a chance he could have been charged and arrested after questioning), and yet the cop somehow knew Alex was coming back to the house? What gives?

It’s super strange that a cop would do this , if there is someone with experience being a police officer I hope they chime.
Right off the old internet.
“The police are simply not trained for the job and crime scene cleanup is not their responsibility. Believe it or not, if a crime has taken place inside your home, then you are responsible for the cleanup regardless of the amount of blood and/or bodily fluids that is present”.

Can you imagine going home to your spouse???
“ Yep ,rolled up my sleeves sloshed about with towels -cleaning blood up at a murder scene inside a persons home today.”

No hazmat suit not proper training in biohazard clean up and disposal -
Makes one wonder what motivated this cop to do such a thing ....

 

[tresir2012]

Yea, so much for hoping there was some sort of investigation of blood patterns and such. What good does a picture of blood around the faucet do if you can't tell whose blood that is?
Has anybody ever heard of such a thing? Cop shows up at the scene where a guy has just been killed, and decides to clean up a large spill of blood? Why did he want to clean up the blood before Alex returned to the house? Did he know Alex personally? So the cop was in there mopping up blood at a crime scene and not collecting swabs. The mind boggles.

I think that Alex was kerb side outside perhaps at the time. The statement says the ME arrived so hopefully they swabbed the faucet and sink blood. But both he and Lori washed their hands (Lori used restrooms at the police station according to her statement) so no chance for gunshot residue either I guess. Unless they swabbed everyone's hands at the crime scene. I wonder if they even fingerprinted the gun?

 

[Busymom4]

Im not sure if this has already been posted but the second video on this local 8 news page is pretty interesting.
Are we allowed to discuss that because it's in MSM?
Law enforcement searching Daybell's home - Local News 8

 

[Sachi]

I think that Alex was kerb side outside perhaps at the time. The statement says the ME arrived so hopefully they swabbed the faucet and sink blood. But both he and Lori washed their hands (Lori used restrooms at the police station according to her statement) so no chance for gunshot residue either I guess. Unless they swabbed everyone's hands at the crime scene. I wonder if they even fingerprinted the gun?

Right on, makes no sense at all. This does not fall under the category of “super helpful “, so why? No one cleans up blood just because.

 

[Sachi]

Throwing this out there, maybe someone will know. I never saw it released anywhere. Colby received 2 sums of money on Venmo from Tylee in October well passed the last time she was seen which was around Sept 23. Looking at the time line , LV also sent him Venmo cash but with her she sent the word medicine. Has it been discussed?

 

[indicolite22]

Throwing this out there, maybe someone will know. I never saw it released anywhere. Colby received 2 sums of money on Venmo from Tylee in October well passed the last time she was seen which was around Sept 23. Looking at the time line , LV also sent him Venmo cash but with her she sent the word medicine. Has it been discussed?

Yes, it has been discussed here before. Also, Colby was interviewed by Justin Lum and said that it was Lori who sent him the money using Tylee's Venmo account. Colby now also suspects that Lori could have replied to his messages sent to Tylee in October.

 

[Tortoise]

Throwing this out there, maybe someone will know. I never saw it released anywhere. Colby received 2 sums of money on Venmo from Tylee in October well passed the last time she was seen which was around Sept 23. Looking at the time line , LV also sent him Venmo cash but with her she sent the word medicine. Has it been discussed?

Colby said that it was Lori using Tylee's Venmo to send him money.

Interviewed by Justin Lum

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=181959373059971

 

[Tortoise]

Im not sure if this has already been posted but the second video on this local 8 news page is pretty interesting.
Are we allowed to discuss that because it's in MSM?
Law enforcement searching Daybell's home - Local News 8

I believe it can't be discussed, in accordance with not discussing non-POI's, but it can be linked to.