Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019

[fred&edna]

Have we heard anything from Lori's family - where are they?? Any pleas for her to come forward and provide info on children?

 

[SuperTmo]

Sounds like he reported it, as he didn’t divulge more info in this interview due to an ongoing investigation into the shooting, per the article.

thanks! I totally missed that part!

 

[Gardener1850]

IMO: I don’t think he really knows who tried having him killed, but that now that all of this is coming out about Lori and Chad, he is connecting the dots? Or maybe he’s always known it was due to his wife’s involvement. I wonder if he had tried leaving her and that led to the attempt on his life. How scary. It’s like anyone in their families who dares have a different opinion about religion and the beliefs of Chad and Lori gets offed.

did he report this to police at the time? Did he leave his wife? Is she missing or accounted for?

BBM. It sounds like he reported it and he called her his ex-wife so I don't think they were together as a couple when the shooting incident occurred. MOO.

 

[Luckyzmom]

Thanks for the clarification Mamabirdz and Welcome to WS

 

[SuperTmo]

Duplicate

seriously, I don’t know if it’s just me but Websleuths has been so glitchy. Every other post or so of mine makes a duplicate. I don’t think it’s just me because I see others with duplicated posts too. But either way, it’s frustrating!

 

[CSIDreamer]

This is probably posted, but I'm on page 1.

Family members say mother of missing children in Rexburg joined a dangerous cult with new husband

 

[jjenny]

BBM. How do we know that? ...

As far as I can tell, I don't think we know where Lori was or wasn't when ex-husband died of a heart attack. Sounds like that was a pretty bitter relationship between her and her ex-husband, with accusations and him wanting custody of the daughter. All of the trouble went away, I presume, once he died. Unfortunately his body can not be exhumed because he was cremated.

 

[fred&edna]

As far as I can tell, I don't think we know where Lori was or wasn't when ex-husband died of a heart attack. Sounds like that was a pretty bitter relationship between her and her ex-husband, with accusations and him wanting custody of the daughter. All of the trouble went away, I presume, once he died. Unfortunately his body can not be exhumed because he was cremated.

BBM... Cremated? I missed this!

 

[Meredith28]

Sorry, what does BBM mean? I am seeing it lots but don't know what it means. Thank you!

 

[Gardener1850]

BBM... Cremated? I missed this!

According to medical records obtained by FOX 10 Phoenix, Tylee Ryan’s father Joseph Ryan died from a heart attack in 2018. It’s unclear whether his death is related to the current investigation. His body was cremated and cannot be exhumed.

Family members say mother of missing children in Rexburg joined a dangerous cult with new husband

 

[Gardener1850]

Sorry, what does BBM mean? I am seeing it lots but don't know what it means. Thank you!

Bolded By Me... It's just a way to indicate which text you bolded/ are responding to in reply.

Another common one you will see here is MOO = My Opinion Only or My Own Opinion.

Welcome to Websleuths.

 

[jjenny]

According to medical records obtained by FOX 10 Phoenix, Tylee Ryan’s father Joseph Ryan died from a heart attack in 2018. It’s unclear whether his death is related to the current investigation. His body was cremated and cannot be exhumed.

Family members say mother of missing children in Rexburg joined a dangerous cult with new husband

There are various compounds/meds that can kill someone via cardiac symptoms. Just read an unrelated story about a paramedic accused of killing his wife with eye drops. Apparently when taken internally eye drops will cause cardiac symptoms. Of course in case of Joseph Ryan it could have been a natural death because I imagine the guy was stressed, but since no autopsy was done and body was cremated, I guess we will never know for sure.

 

[fred&edna]

According to medical records obtained by FOX 10 Phoenix, Tylee Ryan’s father Joseph Ryan died from a heart attack in 2018. It’s unclear whether his death is related to the current investigation. His body was cremated and cannot be exhumed.

Family members say mother of missing children in Rexburg joined a dangerous cult with new husband

Thank you! I wasn't questioning validity of statement by JJenny... just surprise - a detail I'd missed.

 

[MrsWatson]

I noticed that LE has been in contact with Lori & Chad but were not able to verify their location. Is there such a thing as a scrambler phone that would disguise their location, or just give a blank? Or would just using a burner phone & then throwing it away accomplish the same thing? Although, I would think that even a burner phone, you could ping where the call came from.

 

[fred&edna]

JMO 'Sure seems like a doomsday trail rather than doomsday prepping

 

[Gardener1850]

Thank you! I wasn't questioning validity of statement by JJenny... just surprise - a detail I'd missed.

The news just posting it late last night so that might be why you missed it. This is a fast moving story with new details coming out everyday.

 

[Gardener1850]

There's so many much going on I need multiple charts/lists to keep it all straight.
So far we have:

Lori's ex/Tylee's father: JAR Died of a heart attack and cremated (Apr 2018)
Lori's estranged husband/Joshua's father: CV Shot to death, allegedly by Lori's brother (July 2019)
Lori's children JJ and Tylee -- MISSING and last seen in Sept 2019
Chad's wife Tammy Daybell: Started coughing and "died in her sleep" of unknown causes (Oct 2019)
Lori's brother: Died in Dec 2019 -- (COD either unknown or not released)

 

[Seenit]

Sorry, what does BBM mean? I am seeing it lots but don't know what it means. Thank you!

BMB=Bolded By Me

 

[CSIDreamer]

The guy Brandon in this clip also went through a divorce, His wife got involved with this cult and went crazy. He was shot at in front of his house in Gilbert AZ.I heard about this before I understood the connection to this story about the kids missing and the shooting in Chandler in July. Crazy stuff in our nice Community. This Avow group is causing havoc with people and messing up their heads. I know a few affected by them and their craziness. But they are so arrogant and recruit especially recruit those who are gullible or in a weak state in their minds or lives. Such nonsense all they are teaching. How Narcissistic this group and followers are. People are getting shot at for standing up to these people.

Still catching up. Is this group based on Gilbert, AZ? I don't need links or anything. A yes or no works fine.

 

[alyssa5597]

Still catching up. Is this group based on Gilbert, AZ? I don't need links or anything. A yes or no works fine.

They seem to have people all over. I listened to their podcast and they believe the "capitols" in the "war" or second coming of Jesus will be Rexburg, ID as the Northern capital and Mesa, AZ as the Southern capital.