ID - Robert Manwill, 8, Boise, 24 July 2009 - #1

[SleuthyMama]

There is no way this woman should have been allowed to be around ANY kids, let alone her OWN! The system seems to believe kids are better off with their bio-parents all the time. I disagree!!!

When I was in high school, we were required to take a semester in child development. I feel this should be required again! Kids need to learn what is the right way to raise a child - for those who haven't been taught that at home.

:clap::clap::clap: Amen, Kimster.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

FYI: If you didn't know already, our amazing astrologers are working on this case! :clap: Thanks to all who sent in a request...Dreamweaver & I both requested & others as well...sorry I didn't name everyone.....busy day & busy multi-tasking here today at WS's! :wink:

Here is the link to the thread for Robert. I will make sure that they get any new media....if anything else is needed by them PLEASE check to see if they do, if you can answer the question could you post it there for them? TIA

Forensic Astrology - Robert Manwill 8 yr old missing 7/24/09 Boise, ID
Forensic Astrology - Robert Manwill 8 yr old missing 7/24/09 Boise, ID - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

:angel:

Thanks. Recovering-Lurker let us know about this yesterday.

Can someone tell me if I'm being illogical in wanting to drive 6-7 hours tonight, search tomorrow morning, and drive 6-7 hours back tomorrow night? And be refreshed and ready to go on a 25-ish mile bike ride Saturday morning? I know the answer, but I need to hear someone else say it, lol.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Thanks. Recovering-Lurker let us know about this yesterday.

Can someone tell me if I'm being illogical in wanting to drive 6-7 hours tonight, search tomorrow morning, and drive 6-7 hours back tomorrow night? And be refreshed and ready to go on a 25-ish mile bike ride Saturday morning? I know the answer, but I need to hear someone else say it, lol.

Yes, you're being illogical. You're leading with your heart, not your common sense. Cancel your bike ride or cancel going to search.

Since they will have quite enough volunteers, I recommend you do the bike ride and have family fun.

I fear it is too late to help Robert unless it is to bring home his body...
but your family is never going to get enough lovin'.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Yes Idaho4Groenes...is it possible to find a motel room checp to saty overnight?
If not see if someone else can go with you to drive so that you can catch some zzz's on the way & back home.
Either way you are an angel to want to go & help search.
I'm too far to make it there....Mich. to Idaho too many miles for me to go. If I could I would go & help though.

:angel:

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Thanks Amanda and Angel. :blowkiss: Since I would be going by myself and already had the other plans, I've decided to be logical and skip this search. I already knew that was the answer, but just needed someone to knock some sense into me. Instead, I will just send my positive thoughts and hope that the search will be productive, as I'm sure everyone else here who can't make it will also be doing.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Yes Idaho4Groenes...is it possible to find a motel room checp to saty overnight?
If not see if someone else can go with you to drive so that you can catch some zzz's on the way & back home.
Either way you are an angel to want to go & help search.
I'm too far to make it there....Mich. to Idaho too many miles for me to go. If I could I would go & help though.

:angel:

I'm "up the river" in MI and I do think it's rather far to travel, but I'd go with you! :blowkiss:

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Missing boy's dad grateful for all the public support
UPDATED: 04:53 PM MDT on Thursday, July 30, 2009
<snipped>
The National Guard is now involved in the search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill who has been missing for six days.

And for the first time today Robert&#8217;s father speaks out publically about the search for his son.

"My heart goes out to the community for all the help we have received in the search for my lost son. I also want to thank the Boise Police Department for their tireless effort, the FBI and my brothers in the National Guard, they're family men, family women, they want to bring this boy home, that all that matters to us at this point," said Charles Manwill, Robert&#8217;s father.

Today is the first day since the search began that citizens didn't go out and search, but that doesn't mean people weren't out searching.

Between last night and today, 135 men and women from the Idaho National Guard and the Idaho Bureau of Homeland Security searched for Robert.

Lt. Col. Tim Narsano with the Idaho National Guard says they add a skill set that the general public doesn't necessarily have.

Article:
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul3009-manwill_dad.91078c8c.html

:angel:

 

[passionflower]

According to JVM, the family has a history of tradgic deaths

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

New Plymouth holds out hope Robert will come home

NEW PLYMOUTH -- Robert Manwill had just completed the second grade at New Plymouth Elementary School.

NewsChannel 7 talked to Robert's teacher today about the 8-year-old boy that so many people are desperately trying to find.

Christy Morales has been in education for 17 years and never had one of her students go missing.

She is now active in helping with the efforts to find Robert.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/canyoncounty/ktvbn-jul3009-new_plymouth.91167eb1.html

 

[lonetraveler]

Thanks Amanda and Angel. :blowkiss: Since I would be going by myself and already had the other plans, I've decided to be logical and skip this search. I already knew that was the answer, but just needed someone to knock some sense into me. Instead, I will just send my positive thoughts and hope that the search will be productive, as I'm sure everyone else here who can't make it will also be doing.

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Idaho4Groenes, all of us know that you have a very big heart and would definitely be there if you could. I wish I could search. I'm disabled and in North Carolina but my thoughts will be with everyone involved in this search and for the ones, like me, who wish they could but will be supporting everyone and investigating as we do for this precious little boy. My grandson is his age. My heart aches for him.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

New Plymouth holds out hope Robert will come home
07/30/2009 05:08 PM MDT
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NEW PLYMOUTH -- Robert Manwill had just completed the second grade at New Plymouth Elementary School.

NewsChannel 7 talked to Robert's teacher today about the 8-year-old boy that so many people are desperately trying to find.

Christy Morales has been in education for 17 years and never had one of her students go missing.

She is now active in helping with the efforts to find Robert.

Robert had only been at the school for a year after recently moving in with his father.

Morales describes Robert has a kind, loving child who was smart.

A mother herself, she worries about being alone and vulnerable, and hopes he would be able to defend himself in a tough situation.

They are asking anyone over 18 to meet at the elementary school at 1:15 p.m. Friday.

School busses and others willing to carpool will then travel to Boise to help with the massive search for Robert.

VIDEO: Hear from his 2nd grade teacher
http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=385113

Article:
http://www.ktvb.com/news/canyoncounty/ktvbn-jul3009-new_plymouth.91167eb1.html
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Search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill - 07-28-2009
http://www.idahostatesman.com/258/gallery/848267.html
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VIDEO Searchers Taking Thursday Off 0:39
http://www.fox12idaho.com/global/vi...mat=flv&clipId1=4000223&at1=News&h1=Searchers Taking Thursday Off

VIDEO: Update On Robert Manwill Search 2:12
http://www.fox12idaho.com/global/vi...Format=flv&clipId1=4000212&at1=News&h1=Update On Robert Manwill Search

:angel:

 

[Busylady]

I pray tomorrow they have a wonderful turnout of people who are going to search, and they find this precious little boy. This has to stop seems like everyday we hear of another child missing.

 

[lonetraveler]

Well, I told myself that I just could not add another missing child to my life but here I am. This is so heartbreaking. I have grandchildren this age. I am getting so tired of people who don't even know how to be a parent and have no love for the child missing to have custody over that child. It has been said that Robert likes to hide. In my gut, I think I know why he likes to hide. I pray for the best conclusion of this tragic story.

 

[yosande]

Three bio dad's involved:

Charles Manwill for Robert Manwill
Raymond Sohms for little girl
Daniel Ehrlick Jr for Aidan Ehrlick (skull fracture)

Custody of the two younger children appear to be with the state.

And also a baby boy Ehrlick in 2005, which would make him 4 or 5 years old now?
And the girl is 2 1/2 years old?
Did Ehrlick spend some time in jail, causing her to have a daughter with RS? just asking, and just guessing.
If he did spend time in jail, was it d/t the baby Ehrlick in 2005?
moo

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Idaho National Guard Join Search For Missing Boy
July 30, 2009
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Members of the Idaho National Guard and Bureau of Homeland Security map out their locations in the search of missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill. Guardsmen and women canvassed remote areas looking for clues that could possible lead them to Robert.

"We have personnel out there that are scouts, they are trained in looking for things that the untrained eye may not see", says Lt. Col. Tim Marsano.

They checked fields and garbage bins hoping to find a trace of the young boy missing now for 6 days.

"We're looking for items of interest that may not have been uncovered", Marsano said.

At the day six briefing Police and Guardsmen would not comment on what lead them to begin looking in this direction but National Guard officials say they are equipped for the job and can provide more resources in the quest to find the 8-year-old boy who vanished from home.

"We know that area, we work out there, we drive those roads everyday do we can see things maybe the average person couldn't", says Marsano.

VIDEO: Idaho National Guard Join Search For Missing Boy 1:39
http://www.kivitv.com/global/Catego...art=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4003010

VIDEO: Massive Volunteer Seach For 8-Year Old Boy 2:00
http://www.kivitv.com/global/Catego...art=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4003004

VIDEO: Massive Search For Missing Boy Set For Friday 2:34
http://www.kivitv.com/global/Catego...art=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=3999655

VIDEO: No Suspects In Search For Missing Boise Boy 2:09
http://www.kivitv.com/global/Catego...art=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=3996538

VIDEO: Police Expand Search For Missing Boy 2:09
http://www.kivitv.com/global/Catego...art=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=3991945

Article:
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10822929
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VIDEO: Dad's thankful remarks
http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=385088
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Google Map For Missing Robert Manwill
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...0391271186.00046fb362da75f7e9bb8&source=embed
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Video: Latest news conference about the search for Robert Manwill July 28, 2009
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/LatestManwillPresserV1.wmv

:angel:

 

[LadyBugSTL]

A poster on another website is claiming to be one of Robert's aunts. THIS CANNOT BE CONFIRMED because it's just someone posting on a website, but...she says that Robert did ask to go to the party but it was earlier in the day. Robert's mom's boyfriend let him go outside to play while mom was still at work. They noticed that he was gone between 9-9:30. She also says "My sister and Robert's father have primary custody of Robert while his mother has limited visitation. Her visitation was revoked a while ago until she completed some time in lock up and several hours of parenting/anger management classes for the fracture in her infants skull."

Again, this can't be verified as it's just a posting on a website. If I need to remove it or provide a link, just let me know. But if this is true, the connection we made earlier is correct. The woman is the same person.

ETA LINK: http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15748&page=6

Was it ever confirmed that Robert's mother *was actually at work as the "Aunt" is stating - and if so - when did she return home - could she have returned home for a short period of time and gone back to work? Was she at home when Robert was "discovered" to be missing? Who was it that "reportedly" discovered Robert missing? (Can ya'll tell I'm a wee bit suspicious???:waitasec

How, with the previous charges against this mother (and boyfriend for that matter) could anyone have considered leaving this innocent child with them? :furious:

Something is seriously wrong here and I've a feeling the truth lies not far from this little guys home. Has anyone else noticed how sad the expression in his eyes is in every picture? It just breaks my heart - and I too - totally understand everyone's urge to trek there to assist in the search. However, as was most astutely pointed out - it's not a realistic option for some of us - so instead - I'll be sending {{{{positive thoughts}}}}}} and many prayers raying:.

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

I don't think the mother being at work has ever been verified by LE or even media. Nor have any of your other questions, for that matter.

I, too, think that the truth isn't far from Robert's home.

 

[yosande]

{ase: CV-DR-1995-01430 Magistrate Filed: 07/14/1995 Subtype: Domestic Relations Judge: Russell A. Comstock Status: Closed 12/04/1995 Defendants: Manwill, Silke Fatma Plaintiffs: Manwill, Charles Lee Register of actions: Date 07/14/1995 New Case Filed 07/14/1995 Divorce 07/14/1995 Summons Issued 07/14/1995 Order To Attend Parent Workshop (8/15/95) 08/16/1995 Case Status Report 09/28/1995 Proof Of Service 12/04/1995 Affidavit For Entry Of Default 12/04/1995 Order For Entry Of Default 12/04/1995 Default 12/04/1995 Default Judgment Entered At Hearing 12/04/1995 Judgment 12/04/1995 Certificate Of Mailing}

This info wouldn't quote properly so I cut and pasted it. post #187 from impatienthead. Thanks impatienthead...

It gives me the impression that SM and CM had more than one child, as the son was killed in 93.

 

[impatientredhead]

ase: CV-DR-1995-01430 Magistrate Filed: 07/14/1995 Subtype: Domestic Relations Judge: Russell A. Comstock Status: Closed 12/04/1995 Defendants: Manwill, Silke Fatma Plaintiffs: Manwill, Charles Lee Register of actions: Date 07/14/1995 New Case Filed 07/14/1995 Divorce 07/14/1995 Summons Issued 07/14/1995 Order To Attend Parent Workshop (8/15/95) 08/16/1995 Case Status Report 09/28/1995 Proof Of Service 12/04/1995 Affidavit For Entry Of Default 12/04/1995 Order For Entry Of Default 12/04/1995 Default 12/04/1995 Default Judgment Entered At Hearing 12/04/1995 Judgment 12/04/1995 Certificate Of Mailing

This info wouldn't quote properly so I cut and pasted it.
It gives me the impression that SM and CM had more than one child, as the son was killed in 93.

I think there is older brother. I am pretty sure there was a myspace on here saying how upset he is and that his brother is missing.

 

[impatientredhead]

And also a baby boy Ehrlick in 2005, which would make him 4 or 5 years old now?
And the girl is 2 1/2 years old?
Did Ehrlick spend some time in jail, causing her to have a daughter with RS? just asking, and just guessing.
If he did spend time in jail, was it d/t the baby Ehrlick in 2005?
moo

Baby boy Ehrlick was either adopted (hopefully) or appears to not be living. The case is sealed, but there are child support hearings for all of the other kids. I cannot find any examples of court records listed by baby boy or baby girl. An adoption would be in family court records and the 2005 Baby Boy Ehrlick is in criminal records.