ID - Shirley Ramey, 79. Hope. Solved by ATF Gun Database. *Arrest in 2019*. 5 April 2017

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"Two guns locked away in law enforcement evidence in Libby, Montana, were the key evidence the Bonner County Sheriff’s Office needed to solve a two-year-old murder case, investigators say.

Bonner County Sheriff’s Deputies arrested Judith Carpenter, 57, a real estate appraiser from Coeur d’Alene, Thursday night for allegedly breaking into a home in Hope, Idaho, and killing a 79-year-old great-grandmother, Shirley Ramey, before stealing a gun and a blouse on April 5, 2017.

Carpenter may never have come to investigators’ attention had she not been arrested in a road rage incident in Libby, Montana, in the hours after the killing. Carpenter pointed a pistol at another driver while on Bull Lake Road in Libby around 4:10 p.m. Mountain time, according to court records. Ramey was found dead at her home in Hope by her husband late that afternoon.

Inside Carpenter’s car was a Savage Model 99 rifle later found to have been taken from Ramey’s home and a 9mm Glock pistol."
 
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here's a link to the story:

Coeur d’Alene woman linked to 2017 killing of Shirley Ramey in Hope thanks to gun database

An FDJ-brand blouse is still missing from the Ramey home.

I wonder what the deal is with that? Who discovered it missing and how would they know? Just bizarre.

This article mentions other things being stolen. I wonder if that was the motive and when she got caught is when she killed or Shirley Ramey was the city clerk in Hope for decades - maybe she made a decision that Carpenter didn't like.

Some things were stolen, but detectives never said what was taken.

And this article has a picture of the perp (she looks like a psychopath to me) and mentions a possible link to another murder:

They are also now making comparisons between Shirley’s murder and that of a 73-year-old man from Clark Fork who was killed last December. BCSO said previously George Andres came home during a burglary at his home and was shot and killed.

‘It doesn’t even make sense’ | Hope, Idaho searches for answers in murder of local 78-year-old woman
 
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