Ideas for book title

[BBB167893]

Super - Super Dave, If you are serious about writing and publishing this book, and I believe you are from what I've read on this thread, I think you should realize although the constitution guarentees us Freedom of Speech, it does not give us the right or freedom to libel anyone.
If you have a publisher, they will do a legal review, or vetting of the book. Anything that can bring about a lawsuit or may be borderline, means the book is cancelled. Advance payment then must be returned from the author to the publishing firm.
I think we all remember what happened to Rita Crosby and her book on Anna Nichole. Although I never did find out the full extent. But she's no longer on the air as far as I know.
I read in your into to the book that you consider this book to be your opinion and the truth as you see it. Sorry, Super Dave, but that isn't going bring you a publisher. Anyone can have an opinion about a case. That doesn't make the idea a winner for a publisher.
Have you checked to see what books have been published on this case and who wrote them? Many of them are experts in the field of criminal investigations. They have some credentials behind their writing.
I believe a great book for you to write is one where you show how you went from IDI to RDI. Or an even better idea or slant, IMO, would be to focus on how the Internet, Websleuths exactly, led you from IDI to RDI. I don't think there is a book out there dealing with people studing or solving crimes through extensive internet interaction.
Of course, these are just my suggestions. I don't want to put a wet blanket on your project, I hope your book becomes a reality and you become rich and famous - whichever comes first.

Who said anything about libel?

So because I haven't got a law degree, my feelings are worthless?

How I went from IDI to RDI is a great story, but it's a simple one. Not nearly enough to take up a whole chapter. I really don't know any way to stretch it out that much. Not and keep it interesting, anyway.

As for how the Internet helped me, again, it wasn't really the Internet that did it. Besides, little has an excellent book on this case and the Internet.

If I changed it now, I'd have to rewrite the whole book! Besides, any way you slice it, I'm going to have to rehash the evidence as it's available to us, the public.

Let me be even more honest: because I was an IDI, I have something of a personal stake in this. The Ramseys fooled me with lies, and I don't like being made a fool of.

Does anyone else feel the way azwriter does?

 

[BBB167893]

I only have two original JBR case contributions worthy of repeating. The first was about the teabag possibly being used to reduce Patsy's eyelids swelling from crying, since it was in the glass and beside the box of tissues on the table. As for the second, I don't give a rats behind what any IDI believes, my idea that the transfer DNA could possibly have been transfered from any unknown male source who previously had used Patsy's paintbrush. The killer had on gloves, held the paintbrush with both hands and broke it into pieces, thus picking up the unknown male DNA on both of her hands when breaking the paintbrush into pieces. She then transfered it onto the sides of JBR's longjohns when she pulled them back up to complete the staging of redressing the body after the staged molestation to cover up the previous sexual abuse. The unknown male DNA in the blood in JBR's undies obviously came from the paintbrush when it was shoved inside JonBenet causing her to bleed.

There you have it, SD, angelwng's two famously minute contributions in the past 12+ years of obcessively trying to find justice for one very deserving little girl. (Pretty pitiful for all the time I have put into it isn't it??? Use them wherever you may! lol (I would be honored to have anything of mine, no matter how small, contributed.

OH... You need to include in your forward that several of us here at WS spent eons tryng to figure out if you were really ST!!!!!!!! LOL... At last, we all determined that you were just our own personal Super Hero at Websleuths!!!! BTW, does spandex itch???

Thanks for that.

Spandex is tough to get used to!

 

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[coloradokares]

Who said anything about libel?

So because I haven't got a law degree, my feelings are worthless?

How I went from IDI to RDI is a great story, but it's a simple one. Not nearly enough to take up a whole chapter. I really don't know any way to stretch it out that much. Not and keep it interesting, anyway.

As for how the Internet helped me, again, it wasn't really the Internet that did it. Besides, little has an excellent book on this case and the Internet.

If I changed it now, I'd have to rewrite the whole book! Besides, any way you slice it, I'm going to have to rehash the evidence as it's available to us, the public.

Let me be even more honest: because I was an IDI, I have something of a personal stake in this. The Ramseys fooled me with lies, and I don't like being made a fool of.

Does anyone else feel the way azwriter does?

No! and the Reason we love you is you tell it like it is! We do not want wishy washy we want Super Dave Who by the way stands for Justice Truth and the American way.

 

[DeeDee249]

No! and the Reason we love you is you tell it like it is! We do not want wishy washy we want Super Dave Who by the way stands for Justice Truth and the American way.

We don't want legal doublespeak either. We want "just the facts, Ma'am".

 

[BBB167893]

Thanks you two.

I will say this: if the publishers want changes, I'll make them, within reason. I won't have my work butchered.

 

[coloradokares]

Thanks you two.

I will say this: if the publishers want changes, I'll make them, within reason. I won't have my work butchered.

Find a publisher with integrity and that will not happen. Its time the truth came out and some people are held accountable for their shell games in this death.

 

[BBB167893]

Find a publisher with integrity and that will not happen. Its time the truth came out and some people are held accountable for their shell games in this death.

You're damn right.

 

[JMO8778]

Could you call your book...

"Mary Lacy Wants To Sleep With John Ramsey, And Have His Children, If He Wasn't Too Old To Produce Them, and They Both Su_k" ???

Or

"Mary Lacy Had To Have Her Lips Surgically Removed From John Ramsey's Butt".

..and his attorneys,too.hey,she gets around
she's one happenin' chick.

 

[Darlene733510]

SD - This book does need to be written, and you are the one to write it.

I must admit I am a little concerned about possible lawsuits, because some of the people will not like what you say about them, even if it is the truth.

The only other thing I could think of is to write it using a pseudonym. Charles Lamb did it using the name of "Elia".

You will have to carefully research which publisher to use - some of them do not hesitate to publish one such as yours, while others may back away.

Darlene

 

[angelwngs]

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I think we all remember what happened to Rita Crosby and her book on Anna Nichole. Although I never did find out the full extent. But she's no longer on the air as far as I know.

As of summer 2008 it is rumored that Rita Cosby has signed to be a special correspondent for Inside Edition. In addition, it looks to me as if Rita's book has done pretty well for itself. ???????????


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Cosby

"MSNBC Television
In 2005, Cosby moved to MSNBC.[1] She left the network in the spring of 2007 to pursue other interests.[4]

[edit] Anna Nicole Smith book

On September 4, 2007, Cosby released a book about Anna Nicole Smith, titled Blonde Ambition: The Untold Story Behind Anna Nicole Smith's Death. The book's most controversial allegation is that Smith's attorney, Howard K. Stern who claimed he fathered Smith's child Dannielynn, and Larry Birkhead, who established paternity of Smith's child, were seen in a sexually compromising position. The book also alleges that after Stern threatened to reveal Larry's sexuality, the two men reached a deal that would benefit them both following Smith's death in which Birkhead would gain custody of his daughter and Stern would remain executor of Smith’s estate.[5] Cosby’s book also includes revelations about the drug overdose deaths of Anna Nicole Smith and her son Daniel Smith.[6] Both men deny these allegations, with Stern filing a US$60 million lawsuit against Cosby and her publisher and Birkhead threatening to follow suit.[7] Cosby replied to the Stern lawsuit by saying "…we are solid on our facts more than ever…we are sure of what we have. I think it’s pretty surprising that these guys would launch some frivolous lawsuit to deflect and to smear and to intimidate and it’s not going to work."[8] The book has become a New York Times bestseller.[9]"[end quote]

 

[azwriter]

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I think we all remember what happened to Rita Crosby and her book on Anna Nichole. Although I never did find out the full extent. But she's no longer on the air as far as I know.

As of summer 2008 it is rumored that Rita Cosby has signed to be a special correspondent for Inside Edition. In addition, it looks to me as if Rita's book has done pretty well for itself. ???????????


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Cosby

"MSNBC Television
In 2005, Cosby moved to MSNBC.[1] She left the network in the spring of 2007 to pursue other interests.[4]

[edit] Anna Nicole Smith book

On September 4, 2007, Cosby released a book about Anna Nicole Smith, titled Blonde Ambition: The Untold Story Behind Anna Nicole Smith's Death. The book's most controversial allegation is that Smith's attorney, Howard K. Stern who claimed he fathered Smith's child Dannielynn, and Larry Birkhead, who established paternity of Smith's child, were seen in a sexually compromising position. The book also alleges that after Stern threatened to reveal Larry's sexuality, the two men reached a deal that would benefit them both following Smith's death in which Birkhead would gain custody of his daughter and Stern would remain executor of Smith’s estate.[5] Cosby’s book also includes revelations about the drug overdose deaths of Anna Nicole Smith and her son Daniel Smith.[6] Both men deny these allegations, with Stern filing a US$60 million lawsuit against Cosby and her publisher and Birkhead threatening to follow suit.[7] Cosby replied to the Stern lawsuit by saying "…we are solid on our facts more than ever…we are sure of what we have. I think it’s pretty surprising that these guys would launch some frivolous lawsuit to deflect and to smear and to intimidate and it’s not going to work."[8] The book has become a New York Times bestseller.[9]"[end quote]

Thanks for this update. As I said, I never did know the extent of her problems. I just knew there was a lawsuit and a threat of another by principals in the case. Have you seen her on any Inside Edition programs?

 

[Jayelles]

Hi, everybody.

You know, the events of these past two+ weeks and my newly won exposure to the world of true crime has inspired me. For several years now, I've considered writing my own book on the case. Trouble is, I can never come up with a title that suits me and sums up the case (ie, would interest people enough to get enough mass exposure.)

So what I'm asking is for suggestions. Anyone can throw their hat into the ring (no pun intended).

It's a bad idea to try and think up a title first. Titles should be decided upon last. Books often take on a life of their own after they are started.

Have fun deciding on a working title - but don't set it in stone till you're finished.

 

[Jayelles]

Who said anything about libel?

So because I haven't got a law degree, my feelings are worthless?

How I went from IDI to RDI is a great story, but it's a simple one. Not nearly enough to take up a whole chapter. I really don't know any way to stretch it out that much. Not and keep it interesting, anyway.

As for how the Internet helped me, again, it wasn't really the Internet that did it. Besides, little has an excellent book on this case and the Internet.

If I changed it now, I'd have to rewrite the whole book! Besides, any way you slice it, I'm going to have to rehash the evidence as it's available to us, the public.

Let me be even more honest: because I was an IDI, I have something of a personal stake in this. The Ramseys fooled me with lies, and I don't like being made a fool of.

Does anyone else feel the way azwriter does?

I think a great book would be one on the Internet Subculture and how it has evolved - all the little sideshows and how they relate to the Ramsey case. Truth is often more amazing than fiction!

There is already a book about the subculture in production, but it has been so for a few years now and still no sign of it. I suspect the author will get a move on when he retires.

 

[angelwngs]

Thanks for this update. As I said, I never did know the extent of her problems. I just knew there was a lawsuit and a threat of another by principals in the case. Have you seen her on any Inside Edition programs?[/quote]

The rumor about her signing with IE only surfaced in July of 2008 and has yet to be confirmed by Rita or IE.

 

[azwriter]

Who said anything about libel?

So because I haven't got a law degree, my feelings are worthless?

How I went from IDI to RDI is a great story, but it's a simple one. Not nearly enough to take up a whole chapter. I really don't know any way to stretch it out that much. Not and keep it interesting, anyway.

As for how the Internet helped me, again, it wasn't really the Internet that did it. Besides, little has an excellent book on this case and the Internet.

If I changed it now, I'd have to rewrite the whole book! Besides, any way you slice it, I'm going to have to rehash the evidence as it's available to us, the public.

Let me be even more honest: because I was an IDI, I have something of a personal stake in this. The Ramseys fooled me with lies, and I don't like being made a fool of.

Does anyone else feel the way azwriter does?

Super Dave and all of you who do not believe I am sincere in wanting to help the author:
Since I've written and published a book, (if I give the title, I will give away my identity) as well as worked for newspapers and magazines for years. And also worked for a publishing company, I thought my experience might be of some help to you Super Dave.
In no way do I think your opinion is worthless because you are not an attorney. I wanted to point out that publishers usually favor books written by authors who have some experience or background in the subject they are presenting. However, since you claim the Ramseys fooled you and you have a personel stake in studing this case, that could be your credentials behind your reason to write the book.
As for the use of the word libel, publishers want to stay as far away from a lawsuit as possible when they release a book. That's why non-fiction manuscripts are checked and rechecked for any potential legal problems. An author may want to tell it like it is - in their opinion but that doesn't always pass the test with a publisher.
For your complaint that you would have to rewrite the entire book, believe me, a first draft does not a book make. Rewrites are part of writing a book.
I'm sorry but I did not understand your comment "Besides little has an excellent book on this case and the Internet." Who is little? And could you give me the title of that book, I'd like to read it.
Of course, you do not need a publisher to get a book into print. Self or Vanity publishing has been done time and time again. However, without a publishing house, you will need to promote the book or hire a firm to get it out into the public relm. You will also be responsible for any legal issue that may crop up when the book becomes available to the reading public. As well as paying for the printing, the cover design, storage, shipping or a book selling agent to get into the book stores and outlets.
I'm sorry if you and others took my advice as something negative toward you or your plans to write and publish a book on JonBenet's death and the events surrounding it. That was not my intention.

 

[Jayelles]

Super Dave and all of you who do not believe I am sincere in wanting to help the author:
Since I've written and published a book, (if I give the title, I will give away my identity) as well as worked for newspapers and magazines for years. And also worked for a publishing company, I thought my experience might be of some help to you Super Dave.
In no way do I think your opinion is worthless because you are not an attorney. I wanted to point out that publishers usually favor books written by authors who have some experience or background in the subject they are presenting. However, since you claim the Ramseys fooled you and you have a personel stake in studing this case, that could be your credentials behind your reason to write the book.
As for the use of the word libel, publishers want to stay as far away from a lawsuit as possible when they release a book. That's why non-fiction manuscripts are checked and rechecked for any potential legal problems. An author may want to tell it like it is - in their opinion but that doesn't always pass the test with a publisher.
For your complaint that you would have to rewrite the entire book, believe me, a first draft does not a book make. Rewrites are part of writing a book.
I'm sorry but I did not understand your comment "Besides little has an excellent book on this case and the Internet." Who is little? And could you give me the title of that book, I'd like to read it.
Of course, you do not need a publisher to get a book into print. Self or Vanity publishing has been done time and time again. However, without a publishing house, you will need to promote the book or hire a firm to get it out into the public relm. You will also be responsible for any legal issue that may crop up when the book becomes available to the reading public. As well as paying for the printing, the cover design, storage, shipping or a book selling agent to get into the book stores and outlets.
I'm sorry if you and others took my advice as something negative toward you or your plans to write and publish a book on JonBenet's death and the events surrounding it. That was not my intention.

This is Little's book (you can order it online):-

http://www.peggylakin.com/

 

[azwriter]

This is Little's book (you can order it online):-

http://www.peggylakin.com/

Hey thanks Jayelles, I was not aware of this book or this service. Very interesting concept. Don't you love the Internet?
azwriter

 

[BBB167893]

Super Dave and all of you who do not believe I am sincere in wanting to help the author:
Since I've written and published a book, (if I give the title, I will give away my identity) as well as worked for newspapers and magazines for years. And also worked for a publishing company, I thought my experience might be of some help to you Super Dave.
In no way do I think your opinion is worthless because you are not an attorney. I wanted to point out that publishers usually favor books written by authors who have some experience or background in the subject they are presenting. However, since you claim the Ramseys fooled you and you have a personel stake in studing this case, that could be your credentials behind your reason to write the book.
As for the use of the word libel, publishers want to stay as far away from a lawsuit as possible when they release a book. That's why non-fiction manuscripts are checked and rechecked for any potential legal problems. An author may want to tell it like it is - in their opinion but that doesn't always pass the test with a publisher.
For your complaint that you would have to rewrite the entire book, believe me, a first draft does not a book make. Rewrites are part of writing a book.
I'm sorry but I did not understand your comment "Besides little has an excellent book on this case and the Internet." Who is little? And could you give me the title of that book, I'd like to read it.
Of course, you do not need a publisher to get a book into print. Self or Vanity publishing has been done time and time again. However, without a publishing house, you will need to promote the book or hire a firm to get it out into the public relm. You will also be responsible for any legal issue that may crop up when the book becomes available to the reading public. As well as paying for the printing, the cover design, storage, shipping or a book selling agent to get into the book stores and outlets.
I'm sorry if you and others took my advice as something negative toward you or your plans to write and publish a book on JonBenet's death and the events surrounding it. That was not my intention.

I understand, azwriter. If I seemed angry, it was because something else had upset me, nothing to do with you. And your secret's safe with me!

I get you: I don't have the kind of resume the company can use to bootstrap itself.

Well, what the publisher wants and what I'll alow is up to them when it comes to that. I can be reasonable.

Your insight is quite valuable to me. I still have time. I hadn't planned on a release before Christmas anyway. After all, we all know that there's one dish best served cold.

 

[BBB167893]

SD - This book does need to be written, and you are the one to write it.

I must admit I am a little concerned about possible lawsuits, because some of the people will not like what you say about them, even if it is the truth.

If they don't like it, I'll know I'm doing it right!

The only other thing I could think of is to write it using a pseudonym. Charles Lamb did it using the name of "Elia".

I was just thinking about that!

You will have to carefully research which publisher to use - some of them do not hesitate to publish one such as yours, while others may back away.

Darlene

I'll take it under advisement.