If George and Cindy truly believed in a Kidnapping, What are the Details??

[zadari]

Cindy and George are victims of Caseys manipulation, and want to believe their granddaughter is alive, and thats why the denial. Its that simple.
But I too, think while George is holding out hope, he knows deep down she is gone. Another words, hes hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.

you know i go from feeling sorry for them to wanting to throttle them when i see them on tv .. but to be truthful i have no way of knowing how id act if it were me in thier shoes ..i feel terribly for them but they need to say no comment! no comment! no comment !,to the press .. they are trying so hard to defend casey and beleive her they are making fools of themselves and it breaks my heart .and pisses me right off too ..

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

I think even if they do find Caylee's body they will not believe it is her even with DNA results to show them it is her. They will not have any dental, so it will be only DNA. CA will think they are still trying to pin it on KC. The results are bogus. She will once again make GA believe her off the wall thinking.

CA thrives on the press. She cannot seem to stay away from them. She must stay up at night thinking of her new theory.

 

[Lexington]

I agree with you.

I would find it extremely funny if, because of his threats LE Baker Acted him.

LOL. That would be the funniest. But if he were committed, who would drive the sign around. Maybe Lee would have to come out of hiding and assume the duty. Or maybe, he's been Baker Acted without our knowledge.

 

[shgrbkr]

I am so over Cindy, it's not even funny. She states the SOS every time she goes on TV. It's like the interviewers think if they ask just the right question in just the right way, the light bulb will go on and she'll have to concede something. This is NOT going to happen. Personally, I no longer care what Cindy and George believe. Cindy has gone above and beyond the call of duty by creating a huge amount of animosity in the public for her and her family. The truth of the matter is, even after Casey is convicted, and no matter what evidence is discovered and presented--even if they had Casey on film, Cindy will never concede that Casey did this. Period. I refuse to listen to her drivel any longer. Baez is just as bad, putting out ridiculous statements and accusing the world is trying to frame his precious little client, and we will all understand when Casey's story comes out. This is such BS.
All of them are insulting our intelligence and I personally will not listen to any of them through the media anymore. Their actions do not add up to their words. That speaks volumes.

 

[RR0004]

I am so over Cindy, it's not even funny. She states the SOS every time she goes on TV. It's like the interviewers think if they ask just the right question in just the right way, the light bulb will go on and she'll have to concede something. This is NOT going to happen. Personally, I no longer care what Cindy and George believe. Cindy has gone above and beyond the call of duty by creating a huge amount of animosity in the public for her and her family. The truth of the matter is, even after Casey is convicted, and no matter what evidence is discovered and presented--even if they had Casey on film, Cindy will never concede that Casey did this. Period. I refuse to listen to her drivel any longer. Baez is just as bad, putting out ridiculous statements and accusing the world is trying to frame his precious little client, and we will all understand when Casey's story comes out. This is such BS.
All of them are insulting our intelligence and I personally will not listen to any of them through the media anymore. Their actions do not add up to their words. That speaks volumes.

I just finished listening to AH's interview (again!). Someone should remind CA what she said to Amy. There's nothing the As have to say at this point that is of interest to me either. The GJ has spoken. I'll wait for TES and the trial.

 

[Meagain]

I never see reporters calling them (mostly Cindy) out on this. Lame.
And I don't understand how these actions by Cindy aren't at the prosecution level. Lies, etc.

If they are knowledgeable of a crime but withholding it - haul her/them in then.

 

[shgrbkr]

The Anthonys that are not in jail passed denial a long time ago. I no longer accept this as remotely any kind of excuse. They now live in the land of bizarre and ridiculous. Many people following this case have analyzed Cindy, Casey and the whole lot of them till blue in the face, but Cindy especially, has slapped us all in the face with her utter refusal to concede not one little thing. This is way more than denial and I no longer accept that as a valid reason why they continue to spit in our faces. Cindy is trying to be manipulative, but she is converting no one over to her school of thought either.

 

[JaJo]

I put myself into the grandparents' shoes and think how overwhelmed I'd be with the thought of being responsible for my own daughter being charged with a capital crime which could mean the death penalty for her. The original interviews the family honestly gave to the police are largely responsible for Casey being charged.

Granted, in the beginning they were so distraught at the disappearance of their granddaughter that they just spoke from their hearts, but what if they realize now that Caylee is probably dead and if they keep talking their daughter will be dead next?

I think those parents are carrying a heavy burden on their shoulders because what parent in their right mind wants to feel responsible for their own child getting the death penalty? They have to be careful what they say now. They can't bring Caylee back, but they don't have to help the State kill their only daughter.

~ JaJo

 

[EasyGruuvin]

Cindy and George are victims of Caseys manipulation, and want to believe their granddaughter is alive, and thats why the denial. Its that simple.
But I too, think while George is holding out hope, he knows deep down she is gone. Another words, hes hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.

I agree, but I do think that CA also manipulated when she would not allow her daughter to adopt the baby out, she admitted she did not want a child. I believe CA is feeling guilty of a few things that went on in their lives and this may contribute to her acts of denial. Poor GA is an innoicent victim , caught in the middle of the two , who obviously both have controlling personalities. IMO, Casey got rid of the baby to spite her mother once and for all.

 

[Jay D]

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I think those parents are carrying a heavy burden on their shoulders because what parent in their right mind wants to feel responsible for their own child getting the death penalty? They have to be careful what they say now. They can't bring Caylee back, but they don't have to help the State kill their only daughter.

~ JaJo

Yes.
But I can see Cindy being so adamant that she will never allow KC or JB to negotiate a lesser sentence by coming clean admitting KC's role and telling the location of the remains. She would rather contine living the lie rather than face reality, and this could prove hugely ironic. She would deny KC a lesser sentence or chance of parole to satisfy her own needs. I repeat, very ironic.

 

[CaliKid]

This might be wrong, but I am so looking forward to the trial when Cindy is put on the witness stand. The prosecution is going to replay the 911 tapes, especially the one where CA talked about the smell of death coming from the car trunk, and she is going to have to explain why she changed her mind.

Truth is, there is no logical explanation other than lies made up to protect her daughter. She is a nurse. George is ex-LE. They both know what death smells like. And if Cindy continues to spout illogical stories about how she was wrong, how KC is mom of the year and never did anything wrong, LE is going to jump on every single lie she tells. That will be sweet justice.

 

[Where's Andre]

I am so in agreement with this line of thinking.

George and Cindy know that Caylee is gone. But, Cindy will not be in charge and control once she acknowledges this. They are well versed in playing their sick game - they have been at it for a long time. Casey lies and performs her evil deeds, Cindy blows up - but fixes everything - Casey is waiting for Cindy to fix this...Cindy is buying time trying to come up with the right "fix" for this tragedy. I have seen family dysfunction in my time but nothing that even remotely compares to this mess.

Unfortunately, I fear they will all continue in their roles and that the truth may never surface. The even sadder fact is that this event is proving to be quite lucrative for them which will only delay justice for Caylee.

I'm of the same mind as well. I'd also add that there's little incentive for laying-off the Kool-Aid.

Gee... does anyone really believe it would be a realistic option for the Anthony's to say, "Okay, we were wrong. Casey fooled us, just like she's done over and over before. We were dumber than a ton of bricks to believe the whole Zanny thing and all the other lies she'd told for as long as we did. Sorry for all the prayer vigils and the websites, and the T-shirts and the mobile sign. Oh and sorry all you neighbors for all the trouble, we're just bad parents and we raised this monster of a child."

The only slim hope they had was for Casey to confess, but even that would put them in a bind, and wasn't going to happen anyway.

My take is that the urge to grave-dig in one way or another runs very strong in this family.

 

[Priester]

I believe that G & C are so confused they just don't know which way to turn. ................ One of those family members is bound a worse break down than we have seen if they don't get help quick.

(partial quotes above)

I think George is right on the edge of doing away with himself.
I hope someone is keeping an eye on him at all times.
If the body is found, all hope is lost for GA and CA.

 

[Boots-OK]

I'm of the same mind as well. I'd also add that there's little incentive for laying-off the Kool-Aid.

Gee... does anyone really believe it would be a realistic option for the Anthony's to say, "Okay, we were wrong. Casey fooled us, just like she's done over and over before. We were dumber than a ton of bricks to believe the whole Zanny thing and all the other lies she'd told for as long as we did. Sorry for all the prayer vigils and the websites, and the T-shirts and the mobile sign. Oh and sorry all you neighbors for all the trouble, we're just bad parents and we raised this monster of a child."

The only slim hope they had was for Casey to confess, but even that would put them in a bind, and wasn't going to happen anyway.

My take is that the urge to grave-dig in one way or another runs very strong in this family.

Well, we know they will never acknowledge any wrong doing - but, IMO - if Casey would tell where Caylee's remains are and come up with something half way believable as to how she died, the rest of the A's could fall in line and there may be a slim chance they could still turn this travesty around somewhat. But, unfortunately, the (sure like the way you put it) "urge to grave-dig" seems to be bigger than they are.

 

[robotdog]

seems to me, this family or part of this family goes thru their lives with one
ridiculous drama after another.. i have seen families like this before. it is like bazarro world in superman and seinfeld :crazy:

its almost like "MEGA DRAMA" becomes normal to them and when things are normal it is no longer considered normal to them anymore, so someone starts a new MEGA DRAMA and the cycle repeats itself.

im not saying this is drama in the sense of making light of it because this situation is not drama IT is a horrible situation but my point is EVEN though this is horrible they are still treating it like a normal drama everyday situation that will be solved by the queens of drama CA and KC

they are so used to " making every little thing into a circus" they cant stop even with this nightmare..

they are a mess...all of them

im not perfect by any means, but i try not to make mountains out of normal every day ups and downs.

 

[cyberborg]

[snip]I do think George towing the line with the kidnapping story is his attempt to manage Cindy who is clearly not manageable. Cindy is use to believing she is in control and her behavior enabled by Lee and George. She cannot fathom that she cannot steer this situation and cannot get people to sway to her view of events. Cindy acting like she is in control and Casey playing the submissive victim while pulling all the strings is nothing new.[snip]

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[cyberborg]

Cindy doesn't trust the police -- because they aren't drinking the Kool-Aid with her.

Cindy at this point just believe that Caylee is missing. She for some reason has blocked out EVERY OTHER DETAIL in this case. Watch the interviews. She basically is angry because the police can't find her granddaughter. That's where it ends.

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:clap::applause::clap:

 

[cyberborg]

Yes.
But I can see Cindy being so adamant that she will never allow KC or JB to negotiate a lesser sentence by coming clean admitting KC's role and telling the location of the remains. She would rather contine living the lie rather than face reality, and this could prove hugely ironic. She would deny KC a lesser sentence or chance of parole to satisfy her own needs. I repeat, very ironic.

ITA. So who wears the pants JB or CA? As another thread said, is CA in control and JB is really driven by the A family rather than KC's best interests.

For a good defense all options should be on the table and JB should have good relations with LE and talking deal options, as options, whether he plans to ever use them or not.

CA is unwittingly excluding options such that when the dust settles and the prosecution strengthens -- KC is left facing the DP.

 

[lizzysf]

I totally agree with you. We are watching a long ingrained family dynamic.

Casey lies, steals, cheats, does whatever she wants to get whatever she wants.

Cindy yells at her behind closed doors, makes her feel worthless, Casey uses this to justify her behavior. In public Cindy tows the line, fixes the mess, and DEMANDS that everyone around her accept the explanation regardless of how ridiculous it is. This too reinforces and escalates Casey's behavior since she has no consequences except her mother berating her behind closed doors and occasionally in front of her boyfriend of the day.

Lee acts as Mr. Fix It/Peacekeeper because that is his role. He is noted as being the one closest to Casey. This swooping in when mom walks away to find out what really happened and calm Cindy down did not start on July 15th.

George clearly has his own opinions but will only go so far in crossing Cindy. In interviews alone with the police he sounds logical and accepting of the facts. In public he tows the Cindy line, regardless of how illogical he knows it is. That is his role (I hate men like this by the way, men that appear to be victims in the family dynamic but really are part of the abuse cycle their kids and grandchildren grow up in by not stopping the crazy woman they live with. And then they get sympathy from people around them.).

I do think George towing the line with the kidnapping story is his attempt to manage Cindy who is clearly not manageable. Cindy is use to believing she is in control and her behavior enabled by Lee and George. She cannot fathom that she cannot steer this situation and cannot get people to sway to her view of events. Cindy acting like she is in control and Casey playing the submissive victim while pulling all the strings is nothing new.

They are surrounded by people like Baez and the PI telling them that Casey is falsely accused, that there is no evidence, and that there are sitings of Caylee. Those are the only people that will be allowed near. In Cindy's interview of a few days ago when she says "Nothing will ever convince me that Casey harmed Caylee in anyway".... I think that is the most honest thing that has been said so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSLHxcQU1Y&feature=related

Yes. Cindy is running the whole show...and I agree, it didn't start July 15th. Check in this interview with Cindy and George. Interviewer asks George if he thinks Casey feels in danger from whomever has Caylee. Cindy starts nodding No, and at the same time, watch her hand on Georges leg, the thumb rubs back and forth in a NO type motion and sure enough immediately George says no. Hand signals have been worked out to keep the story on track. Cindy is the mastermind of the story being spun and she is coaching George through it.

 

[CaliKid]

But there is only so far Cindy can coach George. It works for the media- it will not work for the trial.