If Miranda argument is upheld

[Solace]

It bothers me that KC led LE around Orlando for nothing, and when they said, 'OK, we know you're lying...', because she herself tells them she's a liar, her attorneys can now get her statements thereafter tossed out because she was "in custody" because apparently reasonable people would feel "in custody" after creating a situation where resources are wasted, and precious time, then the mean ole cops quiz me on why I'm a damn liar. This is so frustrating, imo. KC created the situation. To LE time was of the essence and KC still strung them along inside Universal, of her own free will she continued to lie. When confronted with her lies...she went right on - you guessed it - lying!

The Universal situation was of KC's design; not LE, who were searching for a missing baby and precious minutes were ticking by.

She was asked if she would come to Universal and she said yes. She was asked why she was lying at Universal. She was asked if she brought them there to help her, she said yes.

I think it will be difficult to throw this out. Initially, I thought they would, but not so sure now.

 

[Turnadot]

She was asked if she would come to Universal and she said yes. She was asked why she was lying at Universal. She was asked if she brought them there to help her, she said yes.

I think it will be difficult to throw this out. Initially, I thought they would, but not so sure now.

Yeah, they ask her several times and she agrees, and even says at some point herself, 'I brought you here...' and if HHJP has to toss it out, then I can only conclude that the standard of what a "reasonable person" might believe is based on people who are one chromosome away from being a potato.

 

[Solace]

You damned right I would have.

If I had manipulated that same situation and those cops got more frustrated by the minute but weren't arresting me, as a reasonable person, I'd feel a wave of relief that they weren't arresting me and my BS was working. I would feel this meant I, Reasonable Citizen Jane, was free to go if I wanted, but I would stay and see the Q&A through because hey, I brought them there, I'm in control. The feeling of power is a great motivator, even for us Reasonable Janes and Joes.

Great point. And the way she ended the interviews tells everyone she felt in control because she was not arrested. She willingly gives up her computer and says I don't mean to give you the run a round, etc. But she feels like she is in control - they have not arrested - they can't prove anything - .

 

[logicalgirl]

Okay, one more vent! I will make it short!

So george, why if LE told you that KC might not, most likely not, whatever not or knot you pick............Didn't you, the guy who was former LE and who knows a lot about a lot of things - call an attorney?

Actions speak louder than words! That example, they do. IMHO!

Off to duct tape my keyboard till a ruling! :seeya:

Isn't the answer that there was no knot or not which is why George did not or knot but was simply voicing his own suspicions about what might happen not/knot what did in fact happen regarding that conversation? What? Knot you say?

George is just all knotted up in all his testimony. He can't tell the truth from his own fears in his rages. And explains why he didn't call an attorney at that time. It did not happen.

 

[logicalgirl]

Besides in my world, HHJP is going to rule in favor of the LE and the SA and simply tell Baez to "move on Mr. Baez!"

 

[gamom]

When should we expect a ruling? I think I missed that info.

 

[gamom]

None of this really matters when the jury hears it is 31 days and they hear KC on the phone say "I don't have anything to talk to them about" . And then they add the June 20th picture of her dancing. That will do it.

But someone should tell George and Cindy to stop their lying, because in the end Judge Perry will do the sentencing and he will listen to them beg for mercy and give their reasons why; HOWEVER, he will have to pick and choose if he believes they are nonstop liars.

Judge Perry is going to listen to Yuri's first tape and know absolutely that CA is lying when she says he was intimidating. Not good for KC to have everyone lying for her.

And it sure was not good for KC when Lee said "maybe" and camera zoomed in on her to watch her flip her hand as if to say "this is what I have to work with" and then absolutely ignore her brother, WHO HAS AGED TREMENDOUSLY in the last two years.

ITA. Just wanted to add when they hear CA's comment she found her car and it smells like a dead body's been in it and the fact that CA had to play inspector gadget to track KC down. I think these items will stick in the jurys mind and I don't think the defense can explain them away.

 

[Solace]

ITA. Just wanted to add when they hear CA's comment she found her car and it smells like a dead body's been in it and the fact that CA had to play inspector gadget to track KC down. I think these items will stick in the jurys mind and I don't think the defense can explain them away.

In the most recent hearings when Baez was questioning Yuri and was ASKED you didn't find it suspicious that the apartment was empty, you didn't find it suspicous that she waited 31 days, etc. and on and on.

We know he was trying to show that Yuri thought of her as a suspect immediately because the circumstances were suspicious. My point, even her own lawyer gives us insight into what he thinks about this story. IT IS SUSPICIOUS AND SHE IS SUSPICIOUS.