If you look at it logically it's very clear who did it!

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I wonder if it is possible that JBR wasn’t really fully toilet trained at all and maybe that also could explain the bed wetting and fecal incontinence?

In Thomas’ book the housekeeper Hoffman mentions that after PR started receiving cancer treatment in 1993 both JBR and BR regressed in terms of their habits when it came to cleaning up after themselves, practicing proper hygiene and using the bathroom. Also, IIRC, she stated PR had started potty training JBR when she was around 3 years old. If true, that would likely mean JBR started to receive toilet training in the same year as her mother’s diagnosis and treatment started. Perhaps, understandably, JBR’s potty training was disrupted as PR battled her cancer? Perhaps that and/or any stress or emotional turmoil caused by witnessing her beloved mother suffer is what led to JBR eventually return to wearing pampers, being unable to wipe after herself or soiling her bed and/or clothes?

According to Child Mind Institute, encopresis could be caused by constipation, abdominal disorders, emotional or mental distress or trauma, lack of toilet training and sexual abuse. In the case that one’s childen’s experience this, parents and/or should always refer to their doctor and in the case that JBR’s condition was caused by lack of training or education parents can intervene multiple ways by encouraging behavior changes. For example, they can make sure to regularly follow a schedule for when a child will go to the bathroom throughout the day, making sure they get the chance before they go to bed, keeping them hydrated and demonstrating proper washing and wiping habits.

Of course I am not trying to point the fingers or accuse anyone for being negligent or such. It is possible, for example, that even after achieving remission in 1994, that PR was still healing and coming to terms with what she experienced as she received cancer treatment and underwent surgery due to complications caused by a previous procedure. Perhaps PR just needed time to adjust but still always intended to teach and train JBR and her brother on better bathroom and hygiene habits. Perhaps she just still felt overwhelmed and unfortunately could depend on JR to get involved or help with that responsibility at all since it appears he thought taking care of the children was PR’a job.


Or we can also speculate that the children's toilet training habits regressed when Patsy got cancer, because that is when the abuse started.
 
According to the Bonita Papers, JBR was exhibiting some clinginess in late 1996, according to her teachers.

"The teachers did note that sometime inDecember 1996, JonBenet developed a clinginess to her mother which they thought unusual for the ordinarily independent, self assured child. It had always been apparent that there was an extreme closeness between JonBenet and her mother, appeared to be overly protective, but this change in JonBenet appeared to be an even more exaggerated degree of closeness."

As someone in the FDI or IDI camp, I have to wonder if JBR was being SA in an undetectable manner and her abuser escalated.
 
Jonbenet had sustained a broken skull from a blow to the head and had been strangled....a garrote was found tied around her neck....all this happened while John Patsy and Burke were in the house in the middle of the night and no one heard anything?!?! It's clear to me that the Ramseys are the ones responsible for Jonbenet's death.
The house was huge and the ramseys slept on the third floor. You wouldn’t hear a thing from yo there. There house wasn’t like an ordinary persons house. It was considered a huge Mansion in the 90’s.
 
There is no way to know if and when anyone went to bed. The time between head blow and asphyxiation is at a minimum of forty minutes.
No it wasn’t. Dr myers who performed the autopsy said the blow to the head and the strangulation happened almost simultaneously. He said they happened so close together, he couldn’t determine what happened first.
 
Every time I hear Patsy “ran” up that spiral staircase, I question how feasible that was — I mean apart from how she maneuvered over the step on which the RN was *supposedly* spread, something for which we have only her word. How fit was she? We know she was weakened by cancer treatments that ended two years previously. Have we heard that she was engaged thereafter in strength-building, exercise, or fitness activities of any kind? I just don’t buy that whole staircase scenario. I’d love to hear opinions on this.
I’m over weight and not fit and very lazy and gave crepitus in my knees and bad hips but if I hear my kids crying inside I run up my back stairs like lightning. If you read a letter saying someone had kidnapped your child, I’m sure adrenaline would allow you to run a marathon!
 
1000%. And JR was telling LE that he had a meeting to attend the following morning in Atlanta as the reason for leaving. Say, what? They were supposed to be going to Charlevoix to celebrate Christmas with JAR & MR, then on to a cruise. Now suddenly and out of the blue he has a business meeting? After his daughter has been found murdered? I don't think so.......
Do you have proof John said that?
 
How does a detective render someone guilty by looking into their eyes? How unprofessional. She ruined any hope of finding the killer by her mismanagement of the crime scene that day.
Finding out more about Linda Arndt is on my list . I believe she was a trained sexual assault LEO and had a gut experience at the scene. I want to know more about her level and breadth of experience at that time. IMO it's human to have intuition and your gut to kick in but it also takes discernment. People sometimes misplace or too quickly assign the gut feeling to one detail. For example, a person can tell their spouse is not acting right but it's not another woman, it's that they've been pretending to be employed.
 
Finding out more about Linda Arndt is on my list . I believe she was a trained sexual assault LEO and had a gut experience at the scene. I want to know more about her level and breadth of experience at that time. IMO it's human to have intuition and your gut to kick in but it also takes discernment. People sometimes misplace or too quickly assign the gut feeling to one detail. For example, a person can tell their spouse is not acting right but it's not another woman, it's that they've been pretending to be employed.
I agree. I think she was reacting to his guilty knowledge and assumed that he was the one responsible. If he was responsible for any involvement including staging, was she really wrong? I think she gets a bad rap for knowing things didn't feel authentic.
 
How does a detective render someone guilty by looking into their eyes? How unprofessional. She ruined any hope of finding the killer by her mismanagement of the crime scene that day.
When JR says the FBI wasn't involved maybe he was just confused because they just wouldn't work for him....



 
Maybe John was right and the fbi wasn’t involved. Linda Arndt was the only police officer at the house for the majority of the day until JonBenet was found. I think John’s telling the truth.
The FBI was Involved.
JRs team tried to hire retired FBI expert and he politely declined because he had seen enough to know the crime scene screamed STAGED.
 
I am most interested in what criminal profilers have to say about the crime scene… the reasoning, the patterns… etc. I could only find a snid bit from Douglas and I don’t know what to think about Clemente (he seems a little too opinionated/focused in on one theory for me to trust his interpretation). For example, if Jon Benet was found with the white blanket over her, then would that have meant that the offender knew her (if typically offenders cover the victims after the act)? Does the long ransom note that referenced many movies give a clue to the profile of the offender… (side note… did Burke use gestalt language patterns?). I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that a 9yo boy could do this crime with the degree of depravity it has. But, I have to remember that I don’t have all of the facts and it seems possible that what we know of the evidence today could likely have been reshaped like a sentence in the game of “telephone”.
 
I am most interested in what criminal profilers have to say about the crime scene… the reasoning, the patterns… etc. I could only find a snid bit from Douglas and I don’t know what to think about Clemente (he seems a little too opinionated/focused in on one theory for me to trust his interpretation). For example, if Jon Benet was found with the white blanket over her, then would that have meant that the offender knew her (if typically offenders cover the victims after the act)? Does the long ransom note that referenced many movies give a clue to the profile of the offender… (side note… did Burke use gestalt language patterns?). I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that a 9yo boy could do this crime with the degree of depravity it has. But, I have to remember that I don’t have all of the facts and it seems possible that what we know of the evidence today could likely have been reshaped like a sentence in the game of “telephone”.
I believe the movie reference caught LE attention along with the many movies located in the bedroom where PR said she recovered in. You can find the line of questioning in the police interview.
 
Please do some due diligence.
The Ramseys were not cleared. Saying so over and over does not make it factual. It has been proven over and over that that is false.

Please do some due diligence.
The Ramseys were not cleared. Saying so over and over does not make it factual. It has been proven over and over that that is false.
Yes the Ramsey’s were cleared, in fact, Mary Lacy said they were exonerated. Ex-DA Opens Up About Why She Cleared the Ramsey Family of JonBenet's Murder
 
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