If you only knew the power of the Dark Side

[madeleine]

JR "looking" for his daughter's killer:

JOHN: I would ask people to pray that God puts such remorse in the killer's heart that he will come forward and confess.






http://www.cbn.com/700club/scottross/interviews/jonbenet2.aspx


:waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec:


I know a lot of religious people.....but these two are just turning it in something very bizarre every time!This is not about being religious anymore....fgs,these two are toxic and are making no sense at all.Guilty or not they lost their minds....now my question is....did it happen before or after the murder?

 

[madeleine]

Awwww....but God listened,didn't he.......6 years later JMK came along...............


(sorry,not funny,I know...............)

 

[madeleine]

VIDEO:

http://www.cbn.com/media/player/index.aspx?s=/vod/Ramsey_Pt1

The JonBenet Ramsey Case ... Open or Shut?
0 Comment(s)
Scott Ross interviewed Patsy and John Ramsey in 2000. Watch how faith helped the family through their daughter’s death and Patsy’s recurring ovarian cancer.

 

[voynich]

Time of yours wasted, this may be.

Banished to the Dark Side, RDIST is.

Scientists of the DNA discoveries and the linguistics, forsaken they were.

Turn one RDIST away from the dark side, did they?

Turned to stone, they are.

Like I always say, I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brain falls out.

You guys think you know anything about the dark side?

that's hilarious! :woohoo:

Holdontoyourhat your Yoda-Speak
with a little tweak
can make a poem of rhyme,
with a little time

how about:

Listen with care,
to Holdontoyourhat's dare
Time of yours wasted, 'tis
Banished to the Dark Side, RDIST is.
Scientists of the DNA discoveries and the linguistics, forsaken
Turn one RDIST away from the dark side as mistaken,
For the RDIST it's the end of an error,
for the intruder, justice brings him terror
it's up to you, now,
and we'll show you how
Superdave and his RDI spin team,
may one day wake from their dream
RDIST are Turned to stone,
as JIDI clarity and light Shone
:crazy:

 

[madeleine]

VIDEO:

http://www.cbn.com/media/player/index.aspx?s=/vod/Ramsey_Pt1

The JonBenet Ramsey Case ... Open or Shut?
0 Comment(s)
Scott Ross interviewed Patsy and John Ramsey in 2000. Watch how faith helped the family through their daughter’s death and Patsy’s recurring ovarian cancer.

I mean it,any psychiatrists around?I really would like an expert opinion re this.

 

[madeleine]

WTH?! :waitasec:

SCOTT: Okay. Ninety-six percent of people who come to that stage of cancer die. You lived. Now if I understand correctly, you believe you were supernaturally healed by God.

PATSY: Yes, I do.

SCOTT: Is there documentation to go along with that?

PATSY: Yes there is. As a matter of fact I just received a letter from my original oncologist here in Atlanta. He unequivocally believes, knowing where I was and where I am now, there was divine intervention. That was in writing.



http://www.cbn.com/700club/scottross/interviews/jonbenet2.aspx



We ARE in a BAD episode of Star Wars after all!

 

[Tadpole12]

I mean it,any psychiatrists around?I really would like an expert opinion re this.

Hi Madeleine, great link.
I was hoping you, could make sense of it, what the heck is PR talking about ...

PR: 17:46 If you would hear this man, at two thirty three o'clock in the morning, get up, there's no question,
you're not there in those hours, I am ... (nods, bug eyes.)

 

[Tadpole12]

Def Jam poet, voynich is.:innocent:

 

[madeleine]

Hi Madeleine, great link.
I was hoping you, could make sense of it, what the heck is PR talking about ...

PR: 17:46 If you would hear this man, at two thirty three o'clock in the morning, get up, there's no question,
you're not there in those hours, I am ... (nods, bug eyes.)

I didn't get that part....maybe she means she would have noticed if JR got up and went to do God knows what.....

Anyway....."did you ever doubted your husband/wife" is a REASONABLE question.All this NO NO NOT FOR A SECOND is BS.We all have suspicions and doubts at some point in life even if we trust the other one,it's human nature.And we have to deal with a bizarre murder here,so don't tell me some innocent parents just KNEW it all without having any doubts.BS.

 

[Tadpole12]

I didn't get that part....maybe she means she would have noticed if JR got up and went to do God knows what.....

Anyway....."did you ever doubted your husband/wife" is a REASONABLE question.All this NO NO NOT FOR A SECOND is BS.We all have suspicions and doubts at some point in life even if we trust the other one,it's human nature.And we have to deal with a bizarre murder here,so don't tell me some innocent parents just KNEW it all without having any doubts.BS.

heyya

Why does PR affect odd voices in her interviews?
weirds me out.

 

[voynich]

Def Jam poet, voynich is.:innocent:

:woohoo:

 

[BBB167893]

that's hilarious! :woohoo:

Holdontoyourhat your Yoda-Speak
with a little tweak
can make a poem of rhyme,
with a little time

how about:

Listen with care,
to Holdontoyourhat's dare
Time of yours wasted, 'tis
Banished to the Dark Side, RDIST is.
Scientists of the DNA discoveries and the linguistics, forsaken
Turn one RDIST away from the dark side as mistaken,
For the RDIST it's the end of an error,
for the intruder, justice brings him terror
it's up to you, now,
and we'll show you how
Superdave and his RDI spin team,
may one day wake from their dream
RDIST are Turned to stone,
as JIDI clarity and light Shone
:crazy:

Yeah, it's freakin' hysterical. Here's one from me:

Open your mind to the dark side
Through power the truth is found
Injustice I cannot abide
To this case I am bound
Some day I'll finally die
They'll have a funeral for me
They're be no question why
At last the truth will I see
On that day I'll go down forever
They'll put me in that cold dark grave
To very few, it will be grief
To IDIs, great relief
But it's freedom for SuperDave. :dance:

And believe me, that's the CENSORED version!

If ANYONE knows about the dark side, it's me. It's all I've known since I was 12-years-old.

 

[DeeDee249]

Here's my contribution- RDI Haiku:

Patsy wrote the note.
Both parents staged the crime scene.
But Patsy wrote the note.

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS

RE: Lou Smit and the Window

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KkcRBbTpmM[/ame]

I am willing to see that someone could have come through that basement window. Although I see many issues with this theory.

I would like to know if most IDIs feel the intruder went back out that same window when he/she left? I think a person could have gotten back up and out of that window without stepping on something. I am willing to see a athletic, (slim) type person being able to do this. I'm not stuck on this, I am exploring this theory from different angles.

My understanding is there is issue with the (a)suitcase. I do not have enough knowledge regarding that to make comment or to add that into what I am questioning right now.

When I accept that someone could come through that window(and maybe leave by it)next I wonder about the chair in front of the door. IIRC that is true, there was a chair blocking a door per JR. If I were a IDI, I would say that the intruder must have come through the window but did not go back that way: because of the chair. How do we explain the chair otherwise?

...JS...(just sleuthing)

 

[DeeDee249]

No one came through that window. Police discovered an intact spider web across the metal grate covering the window well. Spiders of that type are not active in that area in December. The web would have had to have been broken if the grate was moved. No one could get in the window if the grate was not moved. None of the debris seen in and around the window and window well had been disturbed. Idiot LS found ONE packing peanut and pronounced that evidence that someone came in from the outside. There was NO debris of the type that was found in the window well. It would have been impossible for anyone to have gone in that window and no brought some of that debris in with them, unless your are silly enough to suggest that the intruder came upstairs to get a vacuum and vacuumed it away, of course not not knowing whether anyone might be still awake upstairs (it wasn't that late, according to the TOD). In any case, unless someone also went OUT that same window, the gate would not have been back in place. No intruder can re-spin a spider web.
Here's why no one went OUT the window: The window in question was in an adjacent room called the "train room" because there was a table set up with trains on it. The door to that room was closed, but in FRONT of the closed door was a chair that had been pushed in front of it. The Rs had the stupidity to say that someone could have closed the door behind them, pulling the chair through a CLOSED door, and gone back out the window. LS believed them. No one else did. Well, no sane person did.
The suitcase is explained here: It may have had nothing to do with THIS crime. BUT it was said by the Rs to belong to JR's older son JAR and use to go back and forth to college, right there in Boulder. There was a comforter/blanket in there, said by the Rs to be one that JAR used in his dorm room. It was found to have semen stains sourced to JAR. Not that unusual for a college boy. There was also a Dr. Seuss children's book. Not exactly college reading. THAT is unusual for a college boy.
Could he have been the one molesting JB, both that night and previously? The book may have been used to distract her while she lay on the blanket with her molester in the basement. One thing - that suitcase was NOT found under that window. It was put there admittedly by FW when he moved it to pick up glass from the floor. It was LS who, in a stroke of pure evil, used it to to attempt to climb up the wall.
NO ONE attempted to match skin cell DNA to the handle of the suitcase. Nor to the handle of the garrote. Or the tape. Or to the pineapple bowl, spoon, or glass or flashlight. Or anything else.

 

[Tadpole12]

Hello WS

RE: Lou Smit and the Window

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KkcRBbTpmM

I am willing to see that someone could have come through that basement window. Although I see many issues with this theory.

I would like to know if most IDIs feel the intruder went back out that same window when he/she left? I think a person could have gotten back up and out of that window without stepping on something. I am willing to see a athletic, (slim) type person being able to do this. I'm not stuck on this, I am exploring this theory from different angles.

My understanding is there is issue with the (a)suitcase. I do not have enough knowledge regarding that to make comment or to add that into what I am questioning right now.

When I accept that someone could come through that window(and maybe leave by it)next I wonder about the chair in front of the door. IIRC that is true, there was a chair blocking a door per JR. If I were a IDI, I would say that the intruder must have come through the window but did not go back that way: because of the chair. How do we explain the chair otherwise?

...JS...(just sleuthing)

Hi Chiquita.


It really bothers me that LS does not really show how easily the entrance can be done in that footage.
At 24 secs LS is squated in the window well, and at 26 secs
he drops off his perch on the interior window sill.

Doesn't show at all how he wedges himself through the opening?

Darn that LS, and the (possibly unitentional) bad editing.

 

[DeeDee249]

Of course, it would have been easy to test JAR's blanket from the suitcase to see if it contained any mold, dirt or basement carpet fibers (some areas of the basement were carpeted). This way, it would be determined whether or not that blanket was ever laid down on the floor anywhere in the basement.

So why wasn't it done? Because it would implicate a family member in the molestation, the death, the cover-up or all three. Remember, the police were not allowed to investigate anything that might implicate an R. (phone records come to mind, as well as immediate and separate questioning, turning over clothing worn that day etc.)

 

[Chiquita71]

Hi Chiquita.


It really bothers me that LS does not really show how easily the entrance can be done in that footage.
At 24 secs LS is squated in the window well, and at 26 secs
he drops off his perch on the interior window sill.

Doesn't show at all how he wedges himself through the opening?

Darn that LS, and the (possibly unitentional) bad editing.

Respectfully Quoted Tadpole
Hi Tadpole. Thank you!

I did see the edits!

We do not get to see his whole journey through that window. He is breathing quite heavy for the "ease" these edits portray. There are at least three edits in 40 seconds of footage. Because of these edits we do not ever really see LS come through that window. We know he makes it because there is an edit to him landing inside on the basement floor.

There is one more edit right after that, while he is standing there. I now understand those who say, "yes someone could have come through the window but not easily." I can infer from the edits how difficult of a time LS must have had getting in this way. I give it over though, he did get in.

My next question, after wondering about the chair(and still needing to read up on it more) I wonder if the intruder was really going to take JB back
through that way with him/her?

Is there a IDI theory that sees the intruder meaning to have taken JB out this way? I'm guessing there is, I don't mean that snarky, I mean it literally. And when things "went wrong" he just went out the window himself/herself?

Right now, I can't really see wanting to take JB out of the house this way. What am I not seeing?

TIA

...JS...

 

[madeleine]

http://www.acandyrose.com/03312003carnes61-70.htm

31 The term "open" was not defined. It is, therefore, not clear if the entrances were ajar or unlocked.

32 The suitcase contained a pillow sham, duvet and Dr. Seuss book. These items belonged to defendants, but they have indicated that the items were not normally stored in the suitcase. (SMF 146; PSMF 146.) A lab report indicated that fibers from the sham and duvet were found on the shirt that JonBenet was wearing when she was found in the wine cellar. (SMF 147; PSMF 147.)

Where were those items normally stored anyway?They never even mentioned it,did they...
I always wondered whether Jb was wiped clean with that blanket.............If they found fibers from that sham on Jb's shirt,wouldn't it have been normal to ask those people where they usually kept those items?

 

[madeleine]

So you find a threatening(executed,beheaded) ransom note,your child is missing.
You find a broken window in the basement and a suitcase underneath it (a suitcase that ISN'T supposed to be there)

You don't mention it to LE.

You don't even LOOK inside the suitcase to see what's in it?

Hard to believe.