Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #3

[AgeofAquaruis]

That was beautiful.

Who do you all think wrote it?

I don't know maybe older brother,or Grandma.
:*(

 

[Herat]

Dangers of Combining Suboxone and Adderall

Interesting......

Thanks for that article. The drug mechanism is very clearly explained and is one of the best I've ever read. The effects of the two together are very interesting and I hadn't thought of them that way.

This certainly could explain the overt and unanticipated aggression, as AJ appears to have received from his parent(s).

 

[girlhasnoname]

What's interesting is AF Senior was far from what you describe above, and I would think DCFS knew his history. He may have been a good lawyer at one time years ago. But among other things, he was convicted of shoplifting from Kohl's and admitted he stole to sell the items to buy drugs, and was ordered to rehab.

Until recently, Freund practiced law in Riverside. A man who answered at a phone number listed for Freund’s law office on Thursday described Freund as an “independent contractor” but would not provide additional information and declined to give his name.

“He doesn’t work here no more,” according to the man, who said he last saw Freund a week ago.

His current practice as noted above sounds sketchy as he!!, note the grammar of the person who answered the phone where he was supposedly practicing.
Lawyer Andrew Freund - Riverside, IL Attorney - Avvo

Thanks for that link. He still may have been able to present an image of somewhat former professional having fallen on hard times because of addiction sob story.

It's a rotten excuse if LE or DCS did give him any benefit of the doubt. This little boy suffered numerous 'accidents' over the few years that he was in the custody of bio mom and dad. imo

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

@Simply Southern thank you for all your informative posts!

I don't think it was made up. I think it was covered up.
MOO

 

[Trudie]

“Maybe mommy didn’t mean to hurt me” little AJ told his doctor. I guess after every beating she told him “Mommy didn’t mean to hurt you.” But, she did.

 

[Trudie]

Thanks for that link. He still may have been able to present an image of somewhat former professional having fallen on hard times because of addiction sob story.

It's a rotten excuse if LE or DCS did give him any benefit of the doubt. This little boy suffered numerous 'accidents' over the few years that he was in the custody of bio mom and dad. imo

I have zero tolerance for the ‘addiction sob story’, at all, in any circumstance.

 

[Whiteorchids]

I think it may be the lighting in this photo but there are a couple of others where his head looks oddly shaped. I can’t figure out if it’s the haircut or his actual head shape. I suppose the ME will note any abnormality in the autopsy. <sigh>

But we know he was abused on a regularly basis and died of brain trauma according to COD once full report is out I bet signs of abuse all over his little body and then some. DCFS was at that house 27 times. Neighbors said LE was always seen at the house. I think he had mishapen head bumps and lumps and marks from abuse. In the photos when he was a little boy that were posted of AJ this morning his face and head appeared normal.

 

[Trudie]

How fast is the court process in IL?

 

[Trudie]

But we know he was abused on a regularly basis and died of brain trauma according to COD once full report is out I bet signs of abuse all over his little body and then some. DCFS was at that house 27 times. Neighbors said LE was always seen at the house. I think he had mishapen head bumps and lumps and marks from abuse. In the photos when he was a little boy that were posted of AJ this morning his face and head appeared normal.

Abuse started before his birth, actually.
I agree, the autopsy will reveal much more.
His obituary mentioned his love of puzzles, I immediately thought he probably tried to be quiet, not risk bringing attention to himself. I’m sure the adults had reasons to make him play inside......

 

[Simply Southern]

Currently, I work in a large city. However, when I worked in a small city and a smallish town, LE knew the folks who were bad news. In DCFS cases I was involved in, I watched LE supervisors get on the phone with the higher ups at the DCFS agency to make things happen. I don't think any agency did enough--not LE, not DCFS, not Doctors/Hospitals. There are reports by neighbors that many called this case in over time (but, we have not seen evidence of that anywhere except by account of the people who said they called). The reported incidents are too few to make it so that an officer or caseworker would push things up to a supervisor to get more done for this child but that is exactly what needs to be assessed.

The departments, including LEO, need to assess what went wrong and ways to address what happens with the next case as we know there will be one. I know in my previous areas, LEO and their supervisors would advocate and continue to press to ensure DCFS was investigating, had what they needed to investigate and keep watch over the neighborhood where they suspected abuse was happening. I am sure the officers in this case are devastated. After the funeral and a little time, someone needs to do some hard looking at how they could be more effective in doing the job of keeping children in their community safer.

I totally agree. Everyone is guilty

DCPS, LE, Hospitals, Cities, State, and Federal government's are structured with Check and Balance systems. No one agency can watch these parents 24/7, it takes a village.

Every Dept and government agency failed. They all had supervisors, training in child abuse and how to document.
The neighbors, who were the eyes and ears failed. Yes, it is just plain human decency to report the horrific thing they are now telling the media.

And it will happen again tomorrow and the next day and the next ......

Systems fail
We return kids to drug abusive parents

The drug users have the upper hand. They get free needles, free Narcan, SSI each month, free rehab, free medical care. Millions in long term Methadone and Suboxone, inpatient, outpatient care, food stamps, free housing, all the counseling money can buy.

They cost the federal, state and local governments millions each years, with few positives outcomes.

AND WE LET THEM KEEP THEIR KIDS, LEGALLY.

JMO. I'm ready for change and it starts will taking the above resources and incarcerating these folks, when they break the law. The people should NOT be an exception to society. If you or I break the law we are required to pay files or serve jail time. Should I speak up and say, hey I'm addicted I'm the exception, I'm special, feel sorry for me its hard to get clean, I need help, yes to the tune of 40 or 50 thousand dollars per person. per year and I'm still not going to get over my addiction, I just can't it's to hard. Then we need to protect society from their destruction, murder, stealing, physical and mental abuse and most of all the tax dollars, that could be used for schools, college scholarships...you know stuff that makes the world a better place.

This is what we have become as a county and as society. Few recover, they don't have to, life has more free stuff if they don't.

I believe in helping everyone, but where do we draw the line. One year, five, 10...,when they steal for the 10th time, beat the kids for the 5th time, NO we only stop when they murder someone, and sometimes not then. We can not supervise these folks 24/7 with just DCPS and most require 24/7 supervision, they kill in the blink of an eye.

I'm just sick at the number of kids dying yearly and the government support allowing.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

Idk, because AJ was too young to call in an Rx theft, so any theft would be considered hers. Do you know she was prescribed Adderal?

How would a child who was not even in school yet, be prescribed adderal? How would they treat such a young child for ADHD? And why?

Isn't adrenal for helping someone get their work done and their tasks done, without being confused and distracted? I am not sure why a young child , who was not yet in school, would need addrral.

 

[osu]

I took a break for a couple of days, this case was getting under my skin. Can you show me where this information came from?

My previous post was based on reading a conversation by some CL locals in a local group. I don’t know them personally but was just reading what they were discussing.

One said he had spoken with someone (didn’t mention any names), but someone who he said he knew to be very familiar with the case.


His words were, that both photos and video of abuse were found on the phones and that they had attempted to delete some of it.

He also said this is why JC’s attorney left the police station visibly upset early that morning. JC and the attorney had been at the police department all night and they were shown some of what LE had found on their phones.

JMO

ETA: Please delete if not allowed. TY

 

[Doghairrules]

Troubled family history of slain Crystal Lake boy AJ Freund reveals missed warning signs, failed chances to intervene

Only reposting this link for anyone that missed a good summation of events.

I’m as mad and heartbroken as everyone else is about AJ. One thing that strikes me is that for the first 18 months of his life, he lived with other people due to the drugs in his system at birth. Even if all the other things had otherwise been okay, which they obviously weren’t, that change alone would have been traumatic for him. I’m thinking it may not be the right thing to give babies back to birth parents when the babies were failed during 9 months of pregnancy and considering how traumatic a change of caregivers alone would be for the baby. At some point, don’t we have a responsibility to do what’s right for the child and not consider the parents’ Rights? It’s starting to feel like that to me after all these cases.

Edited to correct length of time AJ was in foster care. Even worse.

 

[Trudie]

How would a child who was not even in school yet, be prescribed adderal? How would they treat such a young child for ADHD? And why?

Isn't adrenal for helping someone get their work done and their tasks done, without being confused and distracted? I am not sure why a young child , who was not yet in school, would need addrral.

Adderall is approved for use in children over the age of 3 years. It is generally started at a dose of 2.5mg in children under age 5 and gradually increased as necessary. ... Adderall XR (extended release) is approved for children over age 6 and it is available as a once a day capsule.
Children Who Use Adderall for ADHD May Need to Cope With Side Effects

 

[Whiteorchids]

I wonder after the cousin had been fostering AJ for 2 years if they fought to keep her from getting him back? After two years I’m sure they were bonded and lovingly attached. How scary for a child to go to the biological parents not even knowing them. Like a puppy taken from it’s mother.

 

[Trudie]

I wonder after the cousin had been fostering AJ for 2 years if they fought to keep her from getting him back? After two years I’m sure they were bonded and lovingly attached. How scary for a child to go to the biological parents not even knowing them. Like a puppy taken from it’s mother.

I was just thinking, it’d be similar to having a dog and after falling in love, nurturing & training it, to give it away. What!
And on another note,
Rights rights rights, everyone wants them, they should be reserved for those doing ‘right’.
No one cared about AJ having the right to live......

 

[1&2&3]

My previous post was based on reading a conversation by some CL locals in a local group. I don’t know them personally but was just reading what they were discussing.

His words were, that both photos and video of abuse were found on the phones and that they had attempted to delete some of it.

Also said this is why JC’s attorney left the police station very visibly upset early that morning.
JMO

Respectfully snipped by me for space

If these two monsters were so out of their minds on drugs that they left video of abuse on the phone, they are crazy. Proof that children had no business being in their care.
They have incriminated themselves!

How much more sickening could this be? Oh the horrors the little brother has seen and heard. The pain, hurt, and misery that AJ lived!

 

[Whiteorchids]

Adderall is approved for use in children over the age of 3 years. It is generally started at a dose of 2.5mg in children under age 5 and gradually increased as necessary. ... Adderall XR (extended release) is approved for children over age 6 and it is available as a once a day capsule.
Children Who Use Adderall for ADHD May Need to Cope With Side Effects

I read a study it’s not good giving young children Adderall. Many that took it as children ending up becoming drug addicts as adults. Many college students have addictions to adderall because it’s widely used by students to stay awake all night to study for exams and also easy to get from psychiatrists. Both my boys who graduated college said it’s widely used among students. Kids share the symptoms and what to tell the psychiatrist in order to get an RX. Dr Phil has a show about this as well.

 

[heed101]

This makes me so sad and mad. Why was she wearing a bright pink hat before she was arrested? It was like she wanted to be the center of attention. Why did the parents still have the child if he was born with drugs in his system ?

 

[1&2&3]

Back in the days of my child bearing years, before drugs were the epidemic they are today, the OB/GYN did a drug test on mother’s-to-be that were doing drugs at every check-up.

This report was sent to DCF. DCF had a file on the baby while in utero as well as checking the family out before Baby was born. Seldom did a baby go home with addicted parents or to a filthy neglected home.

This isn’t to say things didn’t change later in the household. These women knew what they had to do to take their baby home with them.

How the world has changed!!