IL - Child, 9, charged in fire deaths of 5 people, Goodfield, 6 Apr 2019

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  • #401
Obviously it's not the lawyer mom got, or he wouldn't be asking for gag order on mom. I presume it's the boy's lawyer. If one can't afford an attorney, one would get an attorney appointed, and clearly the 9 year old kid can't afford an attorney.

Article posted said mom was at court TODAY with HER attorney. I don't think she had one appointed for her YET. The lawyer who requested the gag order is not known publicly yet.
IMO... AFAIK...stories are changing so quick i don't know which article to post anymore.
 
  • #402
No, he is too young even for that.

I hope they investigate it and don't just go by his and his mother's word. If she had anything to do with it or he is taking the blame she is getting away with murder. While I find it hard to care about the boyfriend the four other people are different.
 
  • #403
Obviously it's not the lawyer mom got, or he wouldn't be asking for gag order on mom. I presume it's the boy's lawyer. If one can't afford an attorney, one would get an attorney appointed, and clearly the 9 year old kid can't afford an attorney.

Article posted said mom was at court TODAY with HER attorney. I don't think she had one appointed for her YET. The lawyer who requested the gag order is not known publicly yet.
IMO... AFAIK...stories are changing so quick i don't know which article to post anymore.
 
  • #404
Chicago-based juvenile defense lawyer Gus Kostopoulos called the charges "extremely uncommon." bbm
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She shared a news story about the murder charges on her Facebook page Tuesday, writing, "I would appreciate if everyone would stop the hate comments he's only nine he needs help he's just a baby so please stop." bbm
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In May, after the fire, Alwood started G* page..
"I lost every thing," she wrote on the page. bbm
'Extremely uncommon': 9-year-old charged with murder after 5 die in Illinois fire
 
  • #405
Amber Beyer, Kyle’s aunt, has started a F* page.
“They lost everything,” she said. “Kyle is in need of clothes size 8, and he's super worried about his GoPro. I guess he is a typical kid, but anything helps.”

It is not yet known if smoke alarms in the mobile home were working, but Johnson said it is a good time to remind everyone about the importance of working smoke detectors.
Neighbors look for ways to help survivors of Goodfield fire
 
  • #406
Article posted said mom was at court TODAY with HER attorney. I don't think she had one appointed for her YET. The lawyer who requested the gag order is not known publicly yet.
IMO... AFAIK...stories are changing so quick i don't know which article to post anymore.
I hate the way the stories are changing so much. Something very hinky with that. Mom was so exacting and detailed with the first story I read, where she smelled something chemical in the air, stepped into the hallway, and met top with her fiancé, then BOOM, the furnace exploded.

And he dragged her out the door to safety and went back inside for the kids...

And it had always seemed odd there was screaming inside, for awhile before they all died---why couldn't they get out during the screaming time? Couldn't someone have broken a window and had the babies passed through to them? The trailer was not totally burned out. This is confusing.
 
  • #407
Amber Beyer, Kyle’s aunt, has started a F* page.
“They lost everything,” she said. “Kyle is in need of clothes size 8, and he's super worried about his GoPro. I guess he is a typical kid, but anything helps.”

It is not yet known if smoke alarms in the mobile home were working, but Johnson said it is a good time to remind everyone about the importance of working smoke detectors.
Neighbors look for ways to help survivors of Goodfield fire
That is interesting that Kyle didn't save his GoPro. Given how much he seemed to love it, I am surprised he let it burn up in the fire. Hmmm.....
 
  • #408
If this goes to trial, will Kyle have to take the stand and talk? I don't know, but to me, the ideal scenario here would be for his attorney to manage to get him a deal, like, probation, therapeutic boarding school, serious and intensive counseling and therapy for life, community service. I am no doctor, but it would be beneficial to get Kyle evaluated on all levels, find out if there's a chance for rehabilitation (which, most likely there is), get him out of that environment, into a family that wants to take care of him and that can commit into guiding him on rehabilitating and recovering.
 
  • #409
The fire was April 6th. so it was a few days later... but still completely agree with you on how they act. But yes, all is VERY strange. And in her current interviews she states one 2 yr old died in her arms... so that has changed. Supposedly Boyfriend pulled her out of the trailer, yet she was holding a 2 yr old, and then another interview states she was at the window and heard them screaming and then 'they were gone'. So multiple stories now being told.... thus i'm sure that is why a gag order now in place.


My jaw dropped to the floor when I just realised these videos I watched were AFTER the deadly fire. I hadn't put that together when I watched them.

He and his friend were very happy and enthusiastic, dancing and singing Baby Shark, Grandma Shark song. Very weird that he could dance and sing so joyfully, days after he lost 5 members of his immediate family in a deadly fire.

And the request for money 'if ya'll feel sorry for us' ----o_O
 
  • #410
That is interesting that Kyle didn't save his GoPro. Given how much he seemed to love it, I am surprised he let it burn up in the fire. Hmmm.....
If Kyle really did have a gopro, why didn't he ever film and post any videos from that? All of his videos were recorded on a phone. It looks like some people are out there trying to cash in on this tragedy. And it's not the kid.
 
  • #411
Kids this age and older are trying to build a persona attractive to viewers. It’s the now thing going down with child SM channels. He must be starved for attention to raise his ego.
bbm
Agree.
Even in a "normal" household, Kyle would probably come in third fairly often. Diapering, feeding, holding, bathing, dressing, naps, etc., etc., for the two young ones does take time.
He can do all those things (except cooking, I would assume) for and by himself. More reason for his youtube activity, IMO. What do kids do when they feel like the fifth wheel? (Please know that I am not referring to the fire in any way whatsoever.) Each child is different, but we all know they feel it, see it, and are hurt by it. So Kyle becomes the star of his own show. At least he can watch it, control it, and enjoy it.
 
  • #412
If this goes to trial, will Kyle have to take the stand and talk? I don't know, but to me, the ideal scenario here would be for his attorney to manage to get him a deal, like, probation, therapeutic boarding school, serious and intensive counseling and therapy for life, community service. I am no doctor, but it would be beneficial to get Kyle evaluated on all levels, find out if there's a chance for rehabilitation (which, most likely there is), get him out of that environment, into a family that wants to take care of him and that can commit into guiding him on rehabilitating and recovering.
He doesn't need a plea deal for probation. The worse punishment he can get is probation, even if convicted. They basically can't do nothing to him because of his age.
 
  • #413
That is interesting that Kyle didn't save his GoPro. Given how much he seemed to love it, I am surprised he let it burn up in the fire. Hmmm.....
He is just supper worried about it, per the claim of the aunt. She doesn't even actually claim it was lost/burned, or whatever.
 
  • #414
This article is a must read, imo, to understand some of the why and how did this Katie just stand there and tell her babies she loved them...she didn't...

Luciano: Mom recalls Goodfield inferno that killed five loved ones

And that baby did not die in her arms and I can only imagine how hurtful her creative storytelling is for the family.


In this well written article she only says she held Rose's hand intending to retrieve the other "babies" after getting dressed while the smoke alarm went off and before the "BOOM" that knocked her unconscious. She was dragged out by her fiance and left to yell "I gotta get my babies" as the fiance goes back in and can be heard yelling for the youngest children by name, presumably while only grandma's screams for God to help her pierced the neighborhood. The fiance is reported to have been heard saying he had a baby before he could be heard gasping. The niece was found near him. The other kids in their beds like they'd been sleeping, perhaps. The mom/grandma from across the street is quoted as saying the kids didn't suffer. Katie and her dad were treated at the hospital that night according to this article. He had tried to enter but could not help because of the heat and smoke. I thought I saw other articles say Kyle was treated that night, but it doesn't appear that way from this article.
 
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  • #415
DCF or DHS or whatever the state calls it will try to place kids with family when they investigate abuse. If they can find a member of a family that is capable of caring for the child and following any rules DCF gives them they prefer that.
Yes, that the correct protocol...
Family placement. Hmmm. That's a bit scary, IMO. (sitting on my hands now)
 
  • #416
Why is she changing her story?
 
  • #417
I think there needs to be a new investigation - too much is not adding up IMO
 
  • #418
* Hod onto your heart. Tough read. imo
“When the wind blows, I can still smell it,” Alwood says.

Alwood’s mother, Lori Alwood, glances toward the charred trailer.

“We all feel like this is a nightmare, and we’re gonna wake up from it,” she says.
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At the trailer park, the two households mostly kept to themselves.
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As a smoke detector went off, she quickly threw on clothes, grabbed Rose’s hand and headed out of the bathroom to investigate. She met Jason at the trailer’s furnace, just outside her grandmother’s room. bbm

Holding Rose’s hand, Katie Alwood was about to head to the kids’ beds and grab them up.
BOOM.
Meanwhile, 9-year-old Kyle had fled the structure. He ran to his grandparents’ trailer next door.

It was Kyle, banging on the door and shrieking, “The house is on fire! Help!”

Soon they heard a horrible wail.

“God help me!” Lori’s mother screamed repeatedly from inside the trailer, her desperate shrieks piercing through the trailer park.

As her mother ordered her to stay put, they saw Jason Wall duck back into the trailer. They heard him calling to the children.

“Daemeon!”

“Ariel!”

“Rose!”

There was an agonizing pause, the only sound the crackling of voracious flames. Then they heard him yell “I’ve got a baby!” — an apparent reference to Rose.

After another pause, they heard a gasp, apparently from Jason Wall.

“We heard him suffocating,” Katie Alwood says. “They all were. And that was it.”
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Meanwhile, Mike Alwood had pushed through a doorway and into the trailer. He had to withdraw, choking as he stumbled out.
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Kathryn Murray was found in her bedroom. Jason Wall was on the floor, next to Rose. Daemeon and Ariel were in their beds, looking much as they did when they’d gone to sleep.

Meanwhile, Katie Alwood and her dad went to a Peoria hospital for treatment for smoke inhalation.

“There’s children in the park who can’t eat because they heard the screams from my grandmother that night,” Katie Alwood says.

As Lori Alwood says, “You feel you’re all cried out. Then the tears come again and again and again.”

Rose’s bed and belongings are still in Lori Alwood’s trailer.

“I’m not ready for that to be moved,” she says quietly.
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Just before the fire, she had taken off her ring in preparation for her bath. Amid the charred rubble, there is no sign of the ring.

Katie Alwood plans to legally change her last name to Wall.

Plus, his kitchen-tool invention remains safely tucked inside the fireproof safe. She dreams of one day hitting the jackpot with the invention.

She’ll have to provide for her son, who has been staying with his paternal grandparents, in another town.
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Her father perks up and adds, “Like the time Daemon bit my toes?”

His wife smiles, then chimes in, “You were the only one he ever bit.”

They all smile for a while. Then silences pushes in and the smiles slip away.
Luciano: Mom recalls Goodfield inferno that killed five loved ones
 
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  • #419
There is Childhood Schizophrenia....children as young as 3 have been diagnosed, however that is rare. The usual ages range from 7-13.

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  • #420
What I still am trying to understand is the date the April posts were downloaded. This was days after the fire. Who posted them? Kyle? How? His phone surely was destroyed in the fire. He was taken into custody immediately following fire. Right? Any other family member have a copy off these vids stored? I think all vids before April were K’s downloads. After the fire? Questionable. I haven’t yet checked when Rosie links were posted. Important, maybe? April vids show happy family. I think? Purposely? I’ll need to review.

Youtube videos are stored on YouTube. He could've had his phone in his pocket but he can upload videos from any computer source including cellphones.

Kyle is set to appear in court Oct. 21, and the source said Alwood has now been subpoenaed to appear on that day as well, but also said the details on that are vague at this point.
Attorney requests gag order for mother of child charged with murder

I can well imagine that the kids’ lawyer is appalled at how the mother plastered her son’s face and name all over the place.
 
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