IL IL - John Wayne Gacy

[Kem P]

I assure you, it is not creative fiction. It may very well have not been Gacy. And The Danish Book World on LaPorte Rd truely was one of John's KFC franchises prior.
As far as Gacy's MO, he would have been just passing through Waterloo (he was forbidden to return to Iowa) and would not have had a home there. He surely would not have a business there either. He would have been on the down low and "on the fly". His MO would be tossed.

 

[Nadal]

Fair enough, since that was your only post i didn't expect you to come back and thought you were just coming up with some story, apologies. I still don't believe it was him though.

 

[Kem P]

I guess I will never know.

 

[Richard]

John Wayne Gacy at a costume party

 

[Kell1]

One of the most evil human beings LE has ever dealt with. Dr Michael Stone (whatever you opinion of him is ) known for his "Scale of evil" which ranks criminals on a scale from 1-22 based on the heinousness of their crimes.

Gacy was listed as a 22 on the scale, ranked as the "most evil " as a "Psychopathic Torture Murderer"

 

[Kell1]

There's an interesting metamorphosis we saw in Gacy in that he began as a seduction style child molester /Pedophile, then following incarceration, he then became a sadistic killer.

Whats even more astonishing were the amount and nature of deviant charges he already had on him, PRIOR to the 33 murders he is known for

Yet people (The Criminal Justice system namely) would say nobody would've considered he was dangerous .

 

[Ajaxkid]

Those interested in John Wayne Gacy may be very interested in this podcast:

Defense Diaries Season I: The Gacy Tapes

Bob Motta, Jr. is the son of Bob Motta, Sr. who was one of Gacy’s defense lawyers. Bob Jr. has released the tapes his father recorded during his interviews with Gacy. They have never been heard before.

This podcast is unique and super interesting. In the first episode, Gacy graphically describes his first murder.

 

[Richard]

Gacy's unidentified victims are still being identified from time to time through DNA.
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=286759
Victim of 'Killer Clown' John Wayne Gacy ID'd 4 Decades After Death by DNA from Tooth
Christine Pelisek - Oct 26, 2021

LINK:
Victim of 'Killer Clown' John Wayne Gacy ID'd 4 Decades After Death by DNA from Tooth

----------------------------------
16-year-old from Minnesota ID’d as victim of John Wayne Gacy
By DON BABWIN and JEFF BAENEN July 19, 2017

LINK:
16-year-old from Minnesota ID'd as victim of John Wayne Gacy

 

[Kell1]

My Rule of thumb for serial killers is if they have more than 5 known victims, add 3-5 more onto whatever number they wind up credited with .

 

[mickey2942]

'Conversations With a Killer' lets John Wayne Gacy speak (actually, lie) from the great beyond

When does Conversations with a Killer: The John Wayne Gacy Tapes premiere?

In case anyone is interested, there is a documentary on Netflix with John Wayne Gacy. I haven't seen it yet.

This is interesting, someone bought his house, and apparently didn't know the history.

https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/what-happened-to-john-wayne-gacy-home/amp/

 

[Kell1]

'Conversations With a Killer' lets John Wayne Gacy speak (actually, lie) from the great beyond

When does Conversations with a Killer: The John Wayne Gacy Tapes premiere?

In case anyone is interested, there is a documentary on Netflix with John Wayne Gacy. I haven't seen it yet.

This is interesting, someone bought his house, and apparently didn't know the history.

https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/what-happened-to-john-wayne-gacy-home/amp/

Its a great doc, doesn't reveal anything anyone doesn't already know about Gacy, but shows what a manipulative psychopath he really was

 

[Bored_To_Death]

He definitely had accomplices

 

[HMSHood]

He definitely had accomplices

I would not be surprised. John Wayne Gacy was seen as a pillar of the community.

 

[snooptroop88]

There's a bit of speculation that Dennis Lee Reynolds, missing/Litchfield IL, 1978, may have been a Gacy victim. Dennis vanished in December of 1978 during a blizzard after his car became stuck in a ditch. He was last seen walking off towards homes for help. Dennis had been going to see a girlfriend, and Dennis evidently had quite serious problems with the girlfriend's brothers in the past. I've read he was seriously injured by them.

Cold Case: Dennis Reynolds vanished during the Blizzard of 1978. He hasn’t been seen since.

Dennis Reynolds' car was found in a snow banked ditch, doors locked, windows broken, jacket left inside. Everything was there ... except Reynolds. He vanished from the face of the earth, never to be seen again. The Litchfield Police Department declared him missing. Days, weeks, and months...

www.firstalert4.com

While I can picture Gacy prowling in a random area... pondering his "good fortune" at seeing a young man stranded in the dark... I just don't think so. It is possible, but there are other outcomes far more likely in the Reynolds case, jmo.

Clowns scare the crap out of me as a rule.. OMG to serial killer clowns!!!

I also get creeped out out by clowns.

I'd be afraid to have anything created by Gacy in my presence. You'd have to check my blood pressure if one of his paintings went up in a room while I was in it. I can't believe people actually pay for his "art."

I tend to agree with those that feel certain SKs were genuinely evil, through and through. I think Gacy was, and I think Bundy was.

 

[snooptroop88]

He definitely had accomplices

Possibly, but the thing we already know that he had was arguably just as dangerous: unwitting cooperation. The people around him had no idea, and in most cases, I don't think it was their fault.

 

[Linda7NJ]

wow!

unfortunate that his mother went to her grave not knowing what happened to her son but at least his siblings have answers now

I can’t even imagine what kind of torturous hell that is for a mom

 

[ForensicPatterns]

He definitely had accomplices

He definitely had a few, but they were usually in the similar fashion that Dean Corll had one. It was often those kids who were working at his construction company. This is explained in the "The Clown and the Candy Man" documentary about the two serial killers linked to an infamous pedo ring that was also tied to the Boys Scouts of America.

The Clown and the Candyman

About The Clown and the Candyman​

Two serial killers, Dean Corll and John Wayne Gacy, thousands of miles apart, brutally murdered over 60 teenage boys. The police said the murders were the work of these sole deranged killers, but for the first time we reveal that they were actually connected by a network of pedophiles which was partially financed by prominent members of American society. This is America's sordid secret.

 

[Leprikawn]

I have been reading the book The Serial Killers apprentice, and it mentions Gacy and John David Norman. The book goes into detail how the police in Houston and Dallas barely investigated the Odyssey network but found over 55,000 index cards with names of clients in a child trafficking ring. Of course those index cards were never copied and have disappeared. Norman continually got a slap on the wrist for multiple child rapes. The odds of ONE man having contact with two notorious serial killers, using the same tactics, has got to be in the millions.

 

[JussSumguy]

I have been reading the book The Serial Killers apprentice, and it mentions Gacy and John David Norman. The book goes into detail how the police in Houston and Dallas barely investigated the Odyssey network but found over 55,000 index cards with names of clients in a child trafficking ring. Of course those index cards were never copied and have disappeared. Norman continually got a slap on the wrist for multiple child rapes. The odds of ONE man having contact with two notorious serial killers, using the same tactics, has got to be in the millions.

Sounds like there is a decent chance that he had all of those index cards returned to him after he was caught with them, they were supposedly destroyed, yet he started up again in Illinois as if he never lost his contacts, and then when he got caught with em again they supposedly got destroyed again

His timing of living in Texas while Corl was doing his dirt there and living in Illinois while Gacey was doing his dirt there, feels pretty obvious he was involved

Was there anything ever tying Corl to the bodies found in Houston? Feels to me like while he was almost certainly a creep in his own right, the guys who pointed the finger at him initially could have easily been involved with Norman, maybe even been the ones who buried all the kids in the farmhouse and at the beach

Then they were told if they were ever caught to blame it on Corl

 

[Leprikawn]

Sounds like there is a decent chance that he had all of those index cards returned to him after he was caught with them, they were supposedly destroyed, yet he started up again in Illinois as if he never lost his contacts, and then when he got caught with em again they supposedly got destroyed again

His timing of living in Texas while Corl was doing his dirt there and living in Illinois while Gacey was doing his dirt there, feels pretty obvious he was involved

Was there anything ever tying Corl to the bodies found in Houston? Feels to me like while he was almost certainly a creep in his own right, the guys who pointed the finger at him initially could have easily been involved with Norman, maybe even been the ones who buried all the kids in the farmhouse and at the beach

Then they were told if they were ever caught to blame it on Corl

Dean was definitely the killer. One of the boys was 14 when they met Dean and Brooks was 12 when he met him. There were people that actually got away after being Raped because Brooks talked him out of killing them. Dean was the one who rented the boat stall, and had enquired about getting another one......because his was full. His family had a cabin at lake Sam Rayburn where other bodies were found. It was Deans house where he was killed. He was naked, had plastic sheeting on the floor and a torture board. In his white van they found other things like a wooden crate that had human hair, and blood inside.