IL - July 4 Parade, Highland Park, at least 6 fatally shot, 4 July 2022 *son charged, dad guilty*

[Wise Old Owl]

Ummm
Did he wear high heeled shoes???
You know, for his "girl costume" to be convincing.

Well..................he did wear makeup to cover the facial tattoos.....................

Just sayin'..............



JMHO(teehee)

 

[branmuffin]

The preview is this image and a page of numbers. I have no idea what the symbol means.

View attachment 352717

I found the symbol on a website for security company in Sofia, Bulgaria call ips7.bg

24-hour video surveillance, control and GPS tracking by IPS 7

The IPS 7 main activities are the 24-hour video surveillance and control centre, the construction of end-user CCTV, GPS tracking and control systems.

www.ips7.bg

Also from a company in Indonesia that supplies construction material.

TAKINDO-Supplier material konstruksi, wire mesh & bahan bangunan

Takindo supplier material konstruksi, wire mesh dan bahan bangunan lengkap dan murah seluruh Indonesia untuk pembelian partai keperluan proyek.

takindo.co.id

I wouldn't be surprised if that company co-opted it from somewhere else.

 

[wary]

Highland Park gunman posted eerie gaming videos shooting at people

DailyMail.com has uncovered gaming videos Robert Crimo posted where his avatar stood on rooftops and shot down his opponents.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Don’t think this has been posted.

 

[MsBetsy]

I've missed some stuff. Did the parents help him purchase these weapons?

I'm not sure if the dad gave him money but when Crimo was 19, he applied for a FOID card which was sponsored by his father, according to CNN.

It also says Crimo purchased five weapons after the incident at his house when he threatened to kill his family. I wish they had pressed charges.

 

[whitelilac]

Highland Park shooting suspect's past littered with 'red flags'​

“He was in his own world,” said 22-year-old Nick Pacileo.

Pacileo said he and Crimo bonded over skateboarding and were friends from eighth through 10th grade. He used words like “timid” and “quiet” to describe Crimo’s personality. He said the suspected rooftop sniper never talked about guns and would “zone out a lot.”

But when Crimo turned 18, around the time he broke up with his girlfriend, his personality changed, Pacileo said.

“Bobby was depressed,” Pacileo said. “He also went off the deep end after he broke up with his girlfriend a few years ago."

Crimo was obsessed with her, he said, and instead of therapy he turned to drugs.

“He definitely thought there was a border in the mind that needed to be broken through the mind,” he said. “Very third-eye type of stuff that kind of goes along with the psychedelic rap and drugs.”

Crimo also had a strained relationship with his parents, who struggled to make ends meet in the ritzy suburb, Pacileo said.

more:
high school behavior, teachers, racist rants

Highland Park shooting suspect's past littered with 'red flags'

A portrait of Robert “Bobby” E.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I've missed some stuff. Did the parents help him purchase these weapons?

Father of Highland Park shooting suspect sponsored son's firearm ownership card despite past violent threats

The father of suspected Highland Park gunman Robert Crimo sponsored his son's application for legal firearm ownership despite past threats of violence to himself and others.

www.foxnews.com

 

[whitelilac]

Another, but thwarted.....dear God

"One phone call saved countless lives and prevented a potential mass shooting during July 4 celebrations in Richmond, Virginia, the police chief and mayor said Wednesday.
The "hero" tipster overheard a conversation that a mass shooting was being planned for the celebration at the Dogwood Dell amphitheater and called that information into police on July 1, said Richmond Police Chief Gerald Smith during a news conference. The amphitheater seats 2,400 people, according to the city's website."

'Hero citizen' tip thwarted a mass shooting planned for July 4 celebration in Richmond, Virginia, police say

One phone call saved countless lives and prevented a potential mass shooting during July 4 celebrations in Richmond, Virginia, the police chief and mayor said Wednesday.

www.cnn.com

 

[Cryptic]

I've missed some stuff. Did the parents help him purchase these weapons?

Yes.

Evidently it is illegal in Illinois for an individual over 18, but under 21 to purchase certain weapons unless a parent in effect "co-signs" the purchase. The father then co-signed the purchase.

 

[Cryptic]

I don't see how the parents could be charged with anything.

His father knew first hand that Crimo had been evaluated as being mentally unstable. Yet..... his father facilitated Crimo obtaining weapons by effectively co-signing their purchase.

The actual Illinois requirement is apparently sponsoring a minor to get a purchase permit / card that then allows them to purchase certain weapons. But, in practical terms, it probably equates to co-signing the purchase of the weapon.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Highland Park gunman posted eerie gaming videos shooting at people

DailyMail.com has uncovered gaming videos Robert Crimo posted where his avatar stood on rooftops and shot down his opponents.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Don’t think this has been posted.

From the article:
The eerie videos show 21-year-old Robert Crimo's gaming avatar standing on rooftops and shooting down his opponents in a game of Call of Duty.
n the video game posts, gun shots can be heard ringing out while players are heard laughing, yelling and directing one another. It's unclear which voice is Crimo's.





Very interesting article. Talks about both sides of the argument on gaming and violence and shooters. Of course, studies say there is no effect on boys/teems and increased violence and these video games.

You all know how I feel about this. And, when you let common sense in, it is strange that all these shooters have had a history with these very violent video games.

I don't care who does what study - I truly believe that these games play into the psychopathy of these boy/teens that turn into these monster shooters.

It is just my opinion, my belief and is quite obvious to me when discussing all these cases.


JMHO



oh & ETA

LE has said that he planned this attack for weeks - well, seems he also had a stage to practice on too. What better way to plan a mass shooting than to "practice one in an online simulation"?

 

[Anance]

I wonder how he got down!

Streetview provides no clues...

Did he jump?

I was under the impression that he climbed back down. Now that you mention it, that would be strange given how the crowd was running, screaming, and behaving.

 

[Dotta]

Highland Park shooting suspect's past littered with 'red flags'​

“He was in his own world,” said 22-year-old Nick Pacileo.

Pacileo said he and Crimo bonded over skateboarding and were friends from eighth through 10th grade. He used words like “timid” and “quiet” to describe Crimo’s personality. He said the suspected rooftop sniper never talked about guns and would “zone out a lot.”

But when Crimo turned 18, around the time he broke up with his girlfriend, his personality changed, Pacileo said.

“Bobby was depressed,” Pacileo said. “He also went off the deep end after he broke up with his girlfriend a few years ago."

Crimo was obsessed with her, he said, and instead of therapy he turned to drugs.

“He definitely thought there was a border in the mind that needed to be broken through the mind,” he said. “Very third-eye type of stuff that kind of goes along with the psychedelic rap and drugs.”

Crimo also had a strained relationship with his parents, who struggled to make ends meet in the ritzy suburb, Pacileo said.

more:
high school behavior, teachers, racist rants

Highland Park shooting suspect's past littered with 'red flags'

A portrait of Robert “Bobby” E.

www.yahoo.com

Drugs - no surprise here.
I don't think drugs are cheap, and yet, with no regular job, he could afford both weapons and drugs.
He was 21 and still living with parents.

 

[sds71]

Crimo Jr. said he decided to sponsor his son’s firearm owner’s identification card — or FOID, which allowed the young man to buy the AR-15 used in the attack — because he thought Crimo III was going to use the weapon to go to the shooting range.

“He bought everything on his own, and they’re registered to him,” the dad said of his son’s weapons…

Crimo Jr. insisted that his son’s crimes were not motivated by hate and noted that a relative of one of his lifelong friends was injured in the shooting.

The Highland Park shooting suspect posted disturbing images of a sex doll and spouted racist and anti-Semitic remarks just days before the shooting in a private online forum.

Highland Park parade shooting suspect Robert Crimo posted pics of his ‘teen sex doll’ online

Crimo is accused of killing seven people in Highland Park during a parade Monday.

nypost.com

Exclusive | Crimo dad washes hands of guilt but talked with son about a mass shooting night before Highland Park massacre

The father of the accused Fourth of July parade killer told The Post on Wednesday that his son talked about a mass shooting in Denmark the night before allegedly launching his own massacre.

nypost.com

 

[MimosaMornings]

Crimo Jr. said he decided to sponsor his son’s firearm owner’s identification card — or FOID, which allowed the young man to buy the AR-15 used in the attack — because he thought Crimo III was going to use the weapon to go to the shooting range.

“He bought everything on his own, and they’re registered to him,” the dad said of his son’s weapons…

Crimo Jr. insisted that his son’s crimes were not motivated by hate and noted that a relative of one of his lifelong friends was injured in the shooting.

Exclusive | Crimo dad washes hands of guilt but talked with son about a mass shooting night before Highland Park massacre

The father of the accused Fourth of July parade killer told The Post on Wednesday that his son talked about a mass shooting in Denmark the night before allegedly launching his own massacre.

nypost.com

“The incident, which led police to briefly confiscate a sword, dagger and 15 knives from the shooter’s home, was just a “childish outburst,” and the knives were “just a collection,” Crimo Jr. told The Post on Wednesday.

“You know I used to collect coins and baseball cards,” the dad said.”

Huh?

 

[mickey2942]

This kid did not need a parent to sign off on buying guns, he needed a parent to send him to therapy, and a place for him to do something, more than play shooter video games. Job Corps would have been a start. Vocational rehabilitation to help him get a job. Since when is it okay to let adult children live at home and not work?!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

“The incident, which led police to briefly confiscate a sword, dagger and 15 knives from the shooter’s home, was just a “childish outburst,” and the knives were “just a collection,” Crimo Jr. told The Post on Wednesday.

“You know I used to collect coins and baseball cards,” the dad said.”

Huh?

Cops are not called to a home to resolve a "childish outburst". It was obviously way more than that and needed intervention by armed officers.

Coins and baseball cards are not deadly weapons. Knives are definitely lethal. JMO.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

“The incident, which led police to briefly confiscate a sword, dagger and 15 knives from the shooter’s home, was just a “childish outburst,” and the knives were “just a collection,” Crimo Jr. told The Post on Wednesday.

“You know I used to collect coins and baseball cards,” the dad said.”

Huh?

Living in a world of denial. Making excuses for everything. Not seeing the writing on the wall. Where was his brother (you know, the uncle) during all this? Did brother try to "show him" what he was doing? Or is he just that selfish (or proud) to admit that maybe, just maybe, this kid might have a problem? Did he see the games his son was playing online? Listen to the "chatting" during these games? Peruse his son's online postings?

I have known people like this in my life - you know - the ones that will never, ever admit to seeing what is right in front of them. They continue down that path until it all finally breaks.

Well this one broke. And broke bad!!!! Wonder if good ole dad will ever wake up to the reality that was staring him in the face.

Shame.





JMHO

 

[MsBetsy]

“The incident, which led police to briefly confiscate a sword, dagger and 15 knives from the shooter’s home, was just a “childish outburst,” and the knives were “just a collection,” Crimo Jr. told The Post on Wednesday.

“You know I used to collect coins and baseball cards,” the dad said.”

Huh?

So Crimo allegedly attempted suicide in April, 2019. Then four months later he threatened to kill his family. About four months later, in December, his father sponsored his application so that he could buy guns.

It makes no sense.

 

[LaborDayRN]

He probably made a few bucks here and there maybe $100 tops. If that.
He probably was selling drugs or something else.

I think I read upthread that he had a job at a food establishment. Perhaps he was socking that money away. I doubt he paid any rent or utilities at home.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I think I read upthread that he had a job at a food establishment. Perhaps he was socking that money away. I doubt he paid any rent or utilities at home.

Enough money to build his own “cabin” (permit?) Enough to paint on his father’s house. What in the heck did the neighbors think?
And this guy ran for MAYOR?

The signs were all there.

JMO