GUILTY IL - Willow Long, 7, Watson, 8 Sept 2013 - #4

[white rabbit]

Authorities say 7-year-old Willow Long's murder investigation is far from over.

Illinois State Police crime scene investigators were collecting evidence at an abandoned house in Watson on Wednesday and Thursday. Detectives continue interviewing neighbors for more details.

http://www.wandtv.com/story/23419898/police-continue-investigating-willow-long-murder

 

[CurlyQ]

They also have specialists that can glean information through play etc with a non verbal child.

Remember Cassidy Young ?
Her father Jason killed her mom Michelle ...
The toddler re enacted the murder scene at daycare when playing with a doll house.

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Yes indeed, and unless N was sleeping and left at the house (which, in MOO is entirely possible), we may see a repeat of the "role play" that Cassidy displayed.

 

[Ladylub]

Gngr returning from bathroom... Never until just now.
well I'll be durned!

000008 1818...

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I went on a hunt for those numbers during the Alana case. Even dug in the trash to find a empty roll from a different pack to see how the numbers changed.

 

[MsTedious]

http://m.illinoishomepage.net/display/12001/story/516d3ae1f5db99993ebb535501385e69


Not a lot of new info in this article about N, but it does have a small interview with Williw's dad that I found interesting.

 

[AngelWings444]

How are you all getting info on this so quickly? I am in google and I hit refresh all the time, but I'm getting news here faster than Google? Where are y'all looking?

Welcome to Websleuths, where the info is more reliable and quicker than MSM. Whenever I hear of something on the news, I come here and there is always more info at WS, and much more accurate.

 

[ToothlessFairy]

Authorities say 7-year-old Willow Long's murder investigation is far from over.

Illinois State Police crime scene investigators were collecting evidence at an abandoned house in Watson on Wednesday and Thursday. Detectives continue interviewing neighbors for more details.

http://www.wandtv.com/story/23419898/police-continue-investigating-willow-long-murder

And we were told that rumors of a third crime scene (because people were reporting blood) are untrue...and that a searcher "cut themselves" on a piece of glass somewhere in the area and any blood found was theirs.

LE might want people to stop poking around in town. That whole town, technically (in my opinion) could be a crime scene. They don't want folks contaminating things...nor waste valuable resources and time having to guard a home from nosy people. (jmo)

 

[secretagent]

That is strange that one of the twitters says DCFS took the brother on the 10th!

For them to take the child, there had to be an official complaint filed with them, I'd think. I wouldn't think they could read and hear about the case and just decide to take the child. Somethings up!

Don't know about in Illinois but here in Florida if an unexplained death of a child occurs DCF almost always removes other living children from the home. Until they have completed their investigation.

 

[CurlyQ]

Don't know about in Illinois but here in Florida if an unexplained death of a child occurs DCF almost always removes other living children from the home. Until they have completed their investigation.

Not necessarily, Thomas Kossow (age 8) was just stabbed to death, Tuesday, Sept 10 (in Rockford, IL) in his driveway "allegedly" by his mother. There are other children in the home (as well as dad) and they have not been removed.

 

[human]

I think human euthanasia with full consent is practiced in Oregon only. And that is in the case of terminal illness or illness so debilitating a person can no longer bear to live.

that is not random people making decisions on who is going to die. Some states have the death penalty. Once again, not random.

The term of putting Willow out of her misery is beyond sickening.

 

[seguek9]

Double post
Ugh

 

[seguek9]

I went on a hunt for those numbers during the Alana case. Even dug in the trash to find a empty roll from a different pack to see how the numbers changed.

Me too--I had no idea!
It is an eye opener of a case for sure (Alana)

 

[bessie]

MOD NOTE: Unless, and until, MSM reports on previous abuse of WL and her little brother, that discussion is off limits.

Illinois Department of Children & Family Services spokesman Dave Clarkin says that before Willow Long was killed last weekend, the agency had no involvement with the Effingham County family. DCFS told News 4 the agency's investigation began Sept. 8 and it took protective custody of Long's brother Sept. 10. The boy is 3. DCFS also told News 4 it is investigating DeRyke and Long's mother.

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Brot...ken-into-protective-custody----223496771.html

Illinois' Department of Children and Family Services tell us that a formal proceeding determining the child's long-term placement is forthcoming, but didn't provide any further information. The family had not been visited or contacted by DCFS prior to this case.

http://www.thexradio.com/news/78-lo...ng-s-3-year-old-brother-in-protective-custody

At this time there is one suspect. Maintain focus on him.

Speculation about why the mother was untruthful is okay, but don't make allegations of her involvement in killing WL.

The grandparents are completely off limits.

 

[human]

I think if it was tropical, insects would eat up things quickly. Would it be the same in Illinois? I think if he used the hose in the yard late at night, he would not be able to see if he was cleaning up blood.

It would depend on the soil whether blood would soak down into it.

I don't think he could do a good enough job of cleaning so that nothing would show in the yard, IMO

 

[menmo]

I know this has been debated to pieces but I have to chime in.
If the mom lied to cover her butt and not look like an unfit mom and didn't know that her brother had killed Willow, how did she think it would pan out when Willow was found? Surely she would think LE talked to her (Willow), and find out mom didn't feed her breakfast or see her. What then?
Just my take but it's as if these two siblings at least think they are smarter than the average LE.
Did CD or anyone in this family have prior knowledge of JD's weirdness (to put it mildly). Not did they know he would kill or even think he would but what weird things would be red flags to them and did they see any at all over the years?

ETA: I do not think having a night out makes anyone an unfit parent. Leaving the kids with a known monster or an unreliable person, yes, but not just going out for a drink or two. Waiting for the rest of the story.

MOO

 

[white rabbit]

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Services-set-for-slain-southern-Illinois-girl-223527831.html

Willow's services will be at 11 a.m. Monday at First Baptist Church in Effingham, followed by private burial.

Visitation will be from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. Saturday at Effingham High School.

DeRyke remains jailed on $5 million and is hiring an attorney.

 

[SilkySifaka]

I don't know if LE had to call DCFS probably standard procedure in these type of situations until things get resolved. And now the questions about if she's an accomplice make it necessary. Also the safety of the child as it would have still been living in the grandparents house and with what they are going through there has to be a risk of them hurting themselves.

In there presser they said there is no one else they are looking for no other POI

 

[scadder21]

We know that LE doesn't always say what it means. Just saying it seems smart to temporarily take the kid while things get straightened out. According to NG's father's brother, he is with his dad, not in the custody of the state.

 

[scadder21]

Thinking about going to the Visitation but not sure if I could take it.

 

[Isabelle]

that is not random people making decisions on who is going to die. Some states have the death penalty. Once again, not random.

The term of putting Willow out of her misery is beyond sickening.

I agree. And, the only time I know of people potentially being put out of their misery was at the time of Hurricane Katrina in a hospital in New Orleans. Even though that would not have been legal, it would have been justified. At that time, the terminally sickest of the sick were suffering further because of inhumane conditions.

 

[gngr~snap]

We know that LE doesn't always say what it means. Just saying it seems smart to temporarily take the kid while things get straightened out. According to NG's father's brother, he is with his dad, not in the custody of the state.

It can be both.
https://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/placement.cfm

Illinois requires that relatives become licensed before the can be issued state assistance checks.
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