Deceased/Not Found IL - Yingying Zhang, 26, Urbana, 9 June 2017 #5 *Arrest*

[LoremIpsum]

Arraignment is 3pm (CDT, I presume?) tomorrow in Urbana — do the lawyer-folks here presume he’ll just plead ‘not guilty’ and that’ll be about it, or any chance we’ll learn much new info tomorrow (I assume it’s too early for any plea-bargaining to have happened)?
Also, anyone know if it will be live-covered by local TV? (which is sometimes viewable on Web)

Yes, 3pm central time at the federal courthouse in Urbana.

I would assume a "not guilty" plea.

I believe he can take a plea deal tomorrow if they have even offered him one at this point.

I posted the following a few pages back:

Thursday is BC's arraignment hearing. This is what to expect:

"Steps of the Federal Arraignment Process

There are three general steps in the federal arraignment process:

- You are informed of the charges against you (although you may already be aware of the charges because of an earlier preliminary hearing).

- You are asked to enter a plea (guilty or not guilty).

- You are either released on bail or remanded to custody pending trial.

In addition, court personnel will schedule upcoming dates for different stages of your case, including pretrial motions and hearings and the federal trial date itself.

If you reached an agreement with the federal prosecutor as a result of federal plea bargaining, the arraignment hearing is a point at which the agreement can be submitted to the judge."

From: https://www.robertslawteam.com...cess/Federal-Arraignment.shtml

More detailed information about federal arraignment hearings can be found at:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_10

https://www.fbi.gov/resources/...deral-criminal-justice-process


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[LoremIpsum]

Also, Channel 3 WCIA is a local news channel that has been very involved in the coverage so far. Kaitlyn Connolly has been the journalist doing most of the coverage so far and she does have her own social media. So best bet to find live coverage would be one of the following:

WCIA website

www.illinoishomepage.net

Twitter

https://www.twitter.com/WCIA3

https://www.twitter.com/WCIA3Kaitlyn

Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/WCIA3News/

https://www.facebook.com/KaitlynMConnolly/

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[CluelessWonder]

Can you anyone tell me who is representing this slimeball? Did he get a private attorney?

 

[IQuestion]

Can you anyone tell me who is representing this slimeball? Did he get a private attorney?

Thomas Bruno and Associates, from what was posted in the news. (T is the father, and E and A sons also attys)
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-07-09/attorneys-accused.html
https://www.tombruno.com/about/anthony-bruno/
A good criminal defense lawyer asks not, “Did my client do it?” but rather, “Can the government prove that my client did it?” No matter what the defendant has done, he is not legally guilty until a prosecutor offers enough evidence to persuade a judge or jury to convict.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/representing-client-whom-the-lawyer-thinks-is-guilty.html

 

[Deleted member 192280]

The attorney for YY's family has said that her family had made it clear that they wanted death penalty for BC. It will be a blow to them if he uses the info about YY's whereabouts as a plea bargain to avoid death penalty (if there is one).

 

[Deleted member 192280]

http://www.news-gazette.com/video/2017-07-18/growing-memorial-yingying-zhang.html

Since the first bouquet was placed last week, the makeshift memorial has only continued to grow.

 

[HoldySi]

Accused kidnapper's attorney says he'll plead not guilty today.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...ttorney-says-hell-plead-not-guilty-today.html

 

[Heathyheath_]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/lo...ttorney-says-hell-plead-not-guilty-today.html

Until they find Yingying's body I'm going to have a pretty strong fear that there's the possibility he could get away with this. Of course this is just my opinion since we have no idea what evidence law enforcement have but I just have this feeling that everything would be a lot more solid if something of Yingying could be found.

Is there any element of searching by the general public right now or have they given in to the FBI's belief that she's dead and that searches aren't worthwhile? The thought of BC getting away with this is sickening to me

 

[Chambana]

Until they find Yingying's body I'm going to have a pretty strong fear that there's the possibility he could get away with this. Of course this is just my opinion since we have no idea what evidence law enforcement have but I just have this feeling that everything would be a lot more solid if something of Yingying could be found.

Is there any element of searching by the general public right now or have they given in to the FBI's belief that she's dead and that searches aren't worthwhile? The thought of BC getting away with this is sickening to me

I don’t feel at this point he can get away with this, even if they don’t locate YY body, has nothing to do with the kidnapping charge, which alone carries life in prison.

1) Saturn Astra with the same exact cracked hubcap registered in his name.

2) he initially lied about his whereabouts on June 9th, playing video games.

3) BC finally changes his story and admits to LE he indeed did pick up an Asian female who appeared distressed, but “dropped her off”

4) the Astra being cleaned to a greater extent on passenger side, probably to rid of YY DNA.

5) an audio confession while under surveillance from the FBI, going into detail about the acts he played out. And pointing out his next victim.

6) other incriminating evidence we don’t know about, because I am 100% sure there is.

If you were part of this jury, wouldn’t you convict him based on this evidence alone?

 

[Vail]

Number 5 is pretty damning if it is allowed.

 

[Webthrush]

I don’t feel at this point he can get away with this, even if they don’t locate YY body, has nothing to do with the kidnapping charge, which alone carries life in prison.

1) Saturn Astra with the same exact cracked hubcap registered in his name.

2) he initially lied about his whereabouts on June 9th, playing video games.

3) BC finally changes his story and admits to LE he indeed did pick up an Asian female who appeared distressed, but “dropped her off”

4) the Astra being cleaned to a greater extent on passenger side, probably to rid of YY DNA.

5) an audio confession while under surveillance from the FBI, going into detail about the acts he played out. And pointing out his next victim.

6) other incriminating evidence we don’t know about, because I am 100% sure there is.

If you were part of this jury, wouldn’t you convict him based on this evidence alone?

To play devil's advocate, IF it turns out the police DON'T have forensic evidence of YY's presence in BC's apt. (I believe they DO) nor her body, than I think a good defense attorney really can knock down all the above points (except the unknowns of #6) to reasonable doubt-level. I don't want to take the time/space to do it, but think it can be done. But I also presume before it's all over they still may opt for an insanity plea.

 

[SteveP]

To play devil's advocate, IF it turns out the police DON'T have forensic evidence of YY's presence in BC's apt. (I believe they DO) nor her body, than I think a good defense attorney really can knock down all the above points (except the unknowns of #6) to reasonable doubt-level. I don't want to take the time/space to do it, but think it can be done. But I also presume before it's all over they still may opt for an insanity plea.

I guess I would be a poor juror for his defense, because although I concede that, individually, maybe any of those points could be knocked down to reasonable doubt level, when you look at them in total, if he didn't kidnap YingYing he is the unluckiest guy on the planet, bc virtually all evidence points to him. He isn't gonna get away with this. JMO

 

[Deleted member 192280]

But isn't that the case with Charlie Adelson's involvement in Dan Markel's murder? Everything points to him and his mother, including recorded conversations, too, and a set-up encounter, but so far he's not charged yet. In that case, there is a hope that the two hitmen and the intermediate woman speak against him. In this case, if BC did not have an accomplice/witness, then the evidence will be more crucial.

 

[anonypotomous]

I don’t feel at this point he can get away with this, even if they don’t locate YY body, has nothing to do with the kidnapping charge, which alone carries life in prison.

1) Saturn Astra with the same exact cracked hubcap registered in his name.

2) he initially lied about his whereabouts on June 9th, playing video games.

3) BC finally changes his story and admits to LE he indeed did pick up an Asian female who appeared distressed, but “dropped her off”

4) the Astra being cleaned to a greater extent on passenger side, probably to rid of YY DNA.

5) an audio confession while under surveillance from the FBI, going into detail about the acts he played out. And pointing out his next victim.

6) other incriminating evidence we don’t know about, because I am 100% sure there is.

If you were part of this jury, wouldn’t you convict him based on this evidence alone?

Sadly, many people have gotten off with even more evidence than this. Having said that, I hope is that YY is recovered and that that justice is served swiftly and justly.

 

[dove28]

half an hour, right?

 

[whitelilac]

I had proposed a defense strategy before that still scares me. BC claims that it was all mutual and consensual, that YY was into the same fantasies, but that she chickened out and left the apartment in the wee hours and got into some other kind of trouble late at night, could this constitute reasonable doubt in at least one juror.
The FetLife thing, they all have anonymous names right? Could it be proven that YY had nothing to do with that site, that there was no prior communication between them? As for the recorded words during the walk with the woman, regarding the "ideal victims", could he claim that was all fantasy and wishful thinking.
I hope to God that LE has forensic evidence, a lot more than we know.

Always afraid of that one juror, as we've seen in several cases already...ugh.

 

[Webthrush]

half an hour, right?

No, 3pm Central Daylight Time so still an hour away.

 

[kittythehare]

[video=twitter;887802191787864065]https://twitter.com/find_yingying/status/887802191787864065[/video]

 

[dove28]

No, 3pm Central Daylight Time so still an hour away.

haha, following the delphi case now too and got my time zones confused

 

[Niner]

:gaah: Another hour?? Shot, it will be 11pm here....

I have a tweeter to tweet for you all - so I'll stay up and post those.

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