Deceased/Not Found IL - Yingying Zhang, 26, Urbana, 9 June 2017 #5 *Arrest*

[Webthrush]

I apologize if anyone has done this already (I couldn't find it), or if it's not allowed (please let me know!) but I thought I'd translate the comments on his images (using Google Translate, but it's better than nothing... I only know Japanese, but I'm clueless with Chinese! lol) Clearly a Chinese speaker could do better, but I'll do my best here. Not all comments are from before his arrest. Warning for profanity

First is this one... from bottom to top (in chronological order)...
* the first either says, "In the end, you're not the rapist, ah?" OR "Big brother, the rapist is you in the end, ah?" [obviously very different meanings... need a Chinese speaker to figure it out I think]; this one was posted on July 6 at 6:29am, interestingly 3 days before YZ went missing.
* the second says just "murder!" in English, posted on July 6 at 9:44am.
* the third says "F... Y" with some emoticon, and the fourth post, by the same user, says, " ... Oh, good gas, English is not good, don't know how to curse other than F"; the next post is also by them, "Just go to feces... *******" again with emoticons, which makes it seem to be joking [I assume "go to feces" is a metaphor similar to "go to hell" or "kiss my " in Chinese]... these posts were made between 10:02 and 10:14am on July 10, the day after YZ went missing.
* the next two posts, by different people, are in English, "That's Not Cool" and "**** your , murderer" made July 13 at 10:57pm and July 14 at 8:12am respectively [note these are still well before he was arrested]
* the last one says "murder" in English followed by "Murderer, look to see, what you see, the mother died". This comment was made July 17 at 1:20pm.

Next, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=738881192 -- the only comment there says something like "I would like to call you every day" with an emoticon in the middle. The comment was posted at 10:05am on July 10 (I believe I'm seeing these times in EST, as this is my time zone).

Third, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742656610
* first post says "Brother kidnapping is not fun" on July 5 at 4:54pm
* second has an emoticon, then "Good gas" [this seems to be a Chinese phrase meaning something is fun?] at 10:04am on July 10.
* third says something like, "Actually, the message wasn't brush burst, not been accused of burst is also powerful. Want to be kidnapped, also safe~" posted at 3:05am on July 13.
* last was "Amitabha, here a tour," posted on July 16 at 9:34pm. A quick google search of Amitabha shows that it's a celestial buddha. I don't know anything about Buddhism so I can't comment further, haha

Fourth, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=781021094; both comments are in English.

Fifth, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=882671100, only comment is an emoticon followed by "If the death penalty", posted at 10:04 am on July 10 (I'm noticing a lot of the posts by this user were at 10:04 am and thereabouts)

Sixth and final image, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=886845005
*first post says "To kill the murderer", posted at 7:13am on July 6.
*second is just an emoticon and "G…H", posted July 10 at 10:03am
*third comment is "Murderer, your mother dead, your dad, you, your mother out of leucorrhea abnormal, your mother tragic death sewer" posted July 17 at 1:18pm [is BC's mom dead or is this just a reference to a game? I'm just wondering because an earlier comment mentioned his mother being dead]
*fourth comment just says "I WILL KILL YOU" with a crow emoji on the left and a knife emoji on the right. Posted on July 17 at 10:41pm.

Just as a disclaimer, I know nothing about the games depicted in the images or whether the comments are about the game or not. Regardless, the content of the comments is interesting (and disturbing IMO)

bbm
Actually, ALL of these comments come AFTER BC was arrested on JUNE 30 -- the crime (kidnapping) was on June 9 (you're thinking July) making them less interesting since Chinese have been leaving such comments on his social sites ever since he was accused.

 

[kittythehare]

bbm
Actually, ALL of these comments come AFTER BC was arrested on JUNE 30 -- the crime (kidnapping) was on June 9 (you're thinking July) making them less interesting since Chinese have been leaving such comments on his social sites ever since he was accused.

Yes,Its easy to get dates muddled. Thanks a lot though, for the great work translating it.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Testing my signature.

 

[Millhouse]

http://news-gazette.il.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=5306cea70

 

[crhedBngr]

Am I the only one that is still wondering if he had an accomplice?

No, you are not.

 

[kittythehare]

http://news-gazette.il.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=5306cea70

Thanks a lot millhouse for this link.

They still have hope she may be alive.

Does this suggest the fBI have not notified them that they know for certain she is dead?
Is there any possibility that she is still alive?

I too believe an accomplice, if not to the actual act of abduction, may have benefited in some way from it and is possibly benefiting still.

(sometimes I see posts here and I just klik like, indicating I agree, but have nothing further to add- is that how other people work, rather than bringing up each post and replying?)

Anything and everything is significant and worthy of exploration.. its unusual not to have a victim, a crime scene or a significant track on the suspect who is in prison, is it not?

And yet.. the highs and lows are equal to the long wait for a trial of a suspect whose crime apart from kidnapping has not been established, actually he is still just indicted so I should not even say that..

Please keep trying.. whether there is any hope or not.

 

[hallowqueen22]

Here is the latest news update that I've found. I'll try to find the interview with his attorney done by a local tv station.

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2017-07/21/content_30206768.htm

 

[hallowqueen22]

http://www.illinoishomepage.net/news/local-news/accused-kidnapper-enters-not-guilty-plea/770605826

 

[Calzone]

There was talk about the "impersonator" in the beginning on the U of I police fb page but I've heard nothing more about it.

I'm a local. Ying Ying's disappearance has been the presedence of conversation and no one knows anything new.

I have many friends that work on campus and have asked them if they have any insight. Nothing.

1). I've asked if there was a possibility that she worked in the same area as him and was told no.
2.) There are several small towns surrounding C-U that are bound by corn/bean fields, large forest parks, rivers and lakes within a short driving distance which is maddening because she could be anywhere. My (personal) guess is that is where he took her out of town, then brought her back to the apartment (if he did at all.)

Living in Champaign as well, people should abandon the thought of a search unless there is an indication of where to search. Trust us when we say, you could hide a body anywhere!

 

[FieryNugget]

Still no body?


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[AnemoneBrown]

Living in Champaign as well, people should abandon the thought of a search unless there is an indication of where to search. Trust us when we say, you could hide a body anywhere!

It may be an arduous task, but so is waiting for YYZ to be found. It appears that ground searches for missing persons done by family and community members are quite routine. Here is a link to a public guide on how to do them.

http://www.missingpersonsguide.com/ground-searches/

 

[CluelessWonder]

Living in Champaign as well, people should abandon the thought of a search unless there is an indication of where to search. Trust us when we say, you could hide a body anywhere!

Yes. I have mentioned it multiple times. About 80 percent of the state is farm fields covered with corn and beans. And I have seen many, many cases where people searched and did not find a body even though it was found months later inside the search area. And those fields are private property with crops in them. Farmers are not going to let people trample through acres and acres of farmland. It would ruin the crops. Now, if someone had cause to believe a particular field was likely to bring results, that would be a different situation.


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[kittythehare]

Yes. I have mentioned it multiple times. About 80 percent of the state is farm fields covered with corn and beans. And I have seen many, many cases where people searched and did not find a body even though it was found months later inside the search area. And those fields are private property with crops in them. Farmers are not going to let people trample through acres and acres of farmland. It would ruin the crops. Now, if someone had cause to believe a particular field was likely to bring results, that would be a different situation.


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But it is quite possible she was held in a building and left there alone when the investigation got close? If he had killed her immediately, what would have been the point of the abduction unless his goal was to gain a body which he may have passed on to a third party for reasons we do not yet understand.
Would it be more likely that such a transfer would happen from an indoor space than wide out in the open?

He was under suspicion after 3 days, that is when the police first looked at his car, and it is possible if not likely that he was aware of it.
But, he still had sufficient time to hide or destroy physical evidence possibly including additional electronic devices.
There must still be buildings that have never been searched,

 

[AnemoneBrown]

Yes. I have mentioned it multiple times. About 80 percent of the state is farm fields covered with corn and beans. And I have seen many, many cases where people searched and did not find a body even though it was found months later inside the search area. And those fields are private property with crops in them. Farmers are not going to let people trample through acres and acres of farmland. It would ruin the crops. Now, if someone had cause to believe a particular field was likely to bring results, that would be a different situation.


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Foot searches are common in cases of missing persons and because the person is missing searchers do not know where the missing are located ahead of time. Searches on private property are common as well and all it requires is permission from the owner. While searching for a missing person may seem overwhelming (looking for a needle in a haystack) searches are done systematically in the absence of a lead. What I mean by systematically is starting with a file mile radius of where the person was last seen and then expanding from there.

Here is an excerpt from a manual published by the Laura Recovery Center and written for family members (not police) who want to organize such searches,.

3.1. Phase One - The First Six Hours

Start at the Beginning - The Site the Missing Child was Last Seen


o Verify that the missing child's family has called 911.

o Saturate the neighborhood and a five mile radius of the site last
seen with flyers immediately. Flyers are always appropriate, no
matter what the situation (Section ``on Flyers'').

o Determine the type of situation you are faced with: lost, runaway,
parental conflict, abduction, etc. Respond appropriately.

o Contact friends, teachers, clergy, and law enforcement with the
goal of establishing the child's character, emotional state, and,
if necessary, vouching for the child.

o The family of the missing child should be encouraged to seek
guidance from professional child-search organizations (Section ``on
Missing Child Organizations'').

o Ensure that the missing child's clothing is not disturbed or
removed from the site last seen or the home. It is absolutely
imperative that the scent be preserved for use by canine search
teams (Section ``on Special Search Methods and Tasks'').

o The missing child's room and belongings must be left undisturbed
until the child is recovered or the investigation is concluded.
This includes items that may have the child's fingerprints, and,
for DNA evidence, their hair and tooth brushes, and unwashed
undergarments.

o Preserve the site last seen for future investigation.

o Familiarize key personnel with the site last seen and surrounding
areas.

o Secure maps of the site last seen and immediate area as soon as
possible (Section ``on Mapping'').

o Take photographs of the site last seen and surrounding area. This
will help with briefings later on.

o Fly the area with a helicopter and take aerial photos. This view
will help in organizing the search, and will give you a feel for
the overall dynamics of the area.

o Mobilize the community. Contact the leadership of organizations
such as local Scout groups, PTO, Churches, Chamber of Commerce,
fraternal and professional groups, especially those that the
missing child's family may be associated with. These groups will be
a source for Recovery Center volunteers. All volunteers should be
at least 18 years old.

o Arrange for any specialized search teams and equipment as soon as
possible. These tools are most valuable in the first hours of the
search: dogs, helicopters, horses, etc.

o Commence search operations as soon as possible. Begin at the
beginning - the site last seen. Never assume that any area searched
prior to Recovery Center involvement has been properly and
thoroughly searched.

o Start a concentric search from site last seen. Divide the area
within a radius of 1.5 miles of the site last seen into sectors
that can be covered by 20 person teams in periods of 3-6 hours.

o Simultaneously, search major roads and highways leading to and from
the site last seen, with emphasis on those leading to remote
locations.

o Search all secondary thoroughfares such as waterways, railroad
tracks, jogging paths, etc.

o Consider establishing roadchecks on roads entering and leaving the
area. Coordinate with law enforcement.

o Identify any unusual traffic flow or dynamics in the area of the
site last seen that might yield clues. (Example: construction
sites, high traffic, migrant workers, etc.)

o Identify and document unusual individuals who become involved early
in the search effort. This monitoring will continue throughout the
recovery operation.

o Document all search activities for future reference. Keep all
records, no matter how insignificant they may appear to be, to give
to the Historian (Section ``on Historian'').

http://www.mysearchmanual.org/Manual.txt

 

[CluelessWonder]

I'm not sure that some of you have spent much time in a cornfield in the summer heat. The leaves are sharp and will cut your skin and make you itch. The pollen will cause a lot of people to have trouble breathing. The rows are only about two feet apart. In the heat of summer, it can feel like 110 degrees in one of those rows. And you will get very hot and very thirsty. If someone were to pass out, it might take all day for searchers to find the person.

A search party might start with a very modest plan to search a 100-square-mile area west of Champaign. Several of us have guessed that area would be a logical location for a search since a cornfield is often the most common and most obvious place for a body to be dumped. It would take years to search that much land.

Check out the following story. In it, a boy went into a cornfield. They knew which cornfield to search. It took searchers almost 24 hours to find him. And they had a crew of more than 100 searchers with tracking dogs, helicopters, etc. Granted, he was probably moving around in the field. But still.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lunteered-to-find-him/?utm_term=.18a3a493edbe

If you do a search for "body found in cornfield," you will find lots of them. Most are from late September to early December in all different years. That's because most of the bodies are found when the corn is harvested. That's what I expect to happen in this case.

 

[dreamscape1]

http://www.urbanaparks.org/crystal-lake-closed-/

 

[SuperTmo]

I'm not sure that some of you have spent much time in a cornfield in the summer heat. The leaves are sharp and will cut your skin and make you itch. The pollen will cause a lot of people to have trouble breathing. The rows are only about two feet apart. In the heat of summer, it can feel like 110 degrees in one of those rows. And you will get very hot and very thirsty. If someone were to pass out, it might take all day for searchers to find the person.

A search party might start with a very modest plan to search a 100-square-mile area west of Champaign. Several of us have guessed that area would be a logical location for a search since a cornfield is often the most common and most obvious place for a body to be dumped. It would take years to search that much land.

Check out the following story. In it, a boy went into a cornfield. They knew which cornfield to search. It took searchers almost 24 hours to find him. And they had a crew of more than 100 searchers with tracking dogs, helicopters, etc. Granted, he was probably moving around in the field. But still.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lunteered-to-find-him/?utm_term=.18a3a493edbe

If you do a search for "body found in cornfield," you will find lots of them. Most are from late September to early December in all different years. That's because most of the bodies are found when the corn is harvested. That's what I expect to happen in this case.

Agree with this! I was in Illinois two weeks ago and the heat + humidity was stifling. It would be dangerous and irresponsible (IMO) to having people out searching without a credible tip...

 

[dreamscape1]

IMO, bc wouldn't go into a cornfield even to dispose of a body., because the corn rows are planted so close together, it's too out in the open making it too easy to be seen and because it might get him all dirty and cut up. I don't think he'd have went to that sort of trouble. I still think he had it all planned out and set up somewhere to act out his fantasies on her and dispose of her. I posted the crystal lake closing link because the timing of it is just uncanny. I would think the FBI would have checked that entire area out or maybe they are now.

 

[Vail]

This guy doesn't strike me as the type to leave a body in the open, even in a cornfield. If you are thinking about murder, you're thinking about the best way to hide the evidence with the least risk of discovery. So what would that be? How creative do we think he is? What methods do we think he had access to? Because LE seems certain Yingying is dead, I suspect they have evidence from his apartment leading them to that conclusion, so he had to get a body out of the apartment without being noticed.

 

[kittythehare]

This guy doesn't strike me as the type to leave a body in the open, even in a cornfield. If you are thinking about murder, you're thinking about the best way to hide the evidence with the least risk of discovery. So what would that be? How creative do we think he is? What methods do we think he had access to? Because LE seems certain Yingying is dead, I suspect they have evidence from his apartment leading them to that conclusion, so he had to get a body out of the apartment without being noticed.

I'm not convinced she was ever in the apartment but her dna could be present in the apt from him his clothes, shoes etc..

I still think he brought her to a place he had pre prepared. i think it was indoors and i speculate it was electronically rigged so he could record his actions..
Location could be anywhere but am inclined to lean towards belief it was not far from where he was living. easy access.. convenient..