I'm so angry part 2

[kgeaux]

I'm asking you kgeaux since I hang on to every post you make. Living on the West Coast all we've been seeing today on T.V. is that beautiful area with so many of the homeowners who say the have running water, telephone and no damage to their homes.

They said IF they left their homes would only be looted or burned down. The the camera panned to a huge house that was burned down.

Do you think they will force them to leave?

I think the minute they try to force a person with means out of their home, a lawyer will be called, an injunction will be filed and this is going to hit the courts. There is some disagreement as to whether the state actually has the authority to inforce this, and it'll have to be argued out at some point. And God help us all if forces show up and force a monied person out at gun point. We won't ever hear the end of that.

If there are people who have running water that is not contaminated, it'd be hard to declare their home unfit to live in and hard to say that it poses a hazard to public health. If the authorities can't prove that, then they can't force anyone out.

Poor people with no resources, they'll probably clear them out before they ever go to the first house that is occupied by someone who can fight them in the courts.

And, just to be clear, the people whose homes are contaminated with that toxic water, I hope they all chose to leave because I believe they'll die if they don't. I want their pets rescued, God it breaks my heart when I see those dogs and cats out in that water.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Listening to the Governor of Massachusetts last night - they've held three drills in one year. Three in one year - and they NEVER have hurricane direct hit there.

Well, so we have another state's number to compare to LA's _____ (we'll need to fill in the blank) hurrican evacuation drills.

 

[less0305]

I gotta brag on Texas a little bit....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/08/AR2005090801795.html


Town Improvises to Absorb Evacuees

By T.R. Reid
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 9, 2005; Page A16

ORANGE, Tex. -- Anna Rose Williams had never heard of Orange, Tex., when her tired, frightened family stopped here for dinner last week on their harried journey to escape Hurricane Katrina.

"We was seven people in one car, with the babies," the 61-year-old grandmother recalled. "A gentleman come out of the Domino Pizza and said, 'Do y'all need a place to stay?' I said, 'Honey, we don't need no place to stay. We need a place to live.' "

And that's how the Williams family of Burns Street in New Orleans became residents of Orange -- for the time being, at least. Their current home is the former fourth-grade classroom at the Community Church Youth Center in Orange, a bayou town on the Texas-Louisiana border that has seen its population swell from more than 18,000 to about 20,000 in one week as evacuees have moved in.

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"These people were getting off the buses wearing garbage bags and no shoes," Frey said. "So we started calling people and saying, 'We need footwear. We need bedding. We need two dozen Porta Potties out here quick.' " Virtually overnight, the state welcome center was transformed into an outdoor warehouse, with mountains of donated clothing, diapers, sleeping bags, food and an eight-foot tower of water bottles.

With few or no job prospects in devastated New Orleans, some of Orange's newest residents have been looking for work -- and finding it. One pastor reopened a defunct carwash to provide employment. A local maker of precision tools, Cloeren Co., sent fliers to motels and shelters looking for machinists. "We're going to hire a bunch of people," said Kenneth Cormier, Cloeren's director of human resources.

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Anna Rose Williams is one of those likely to stay. "We don't know if there's anything to go back to," she said. "And I think it must have been God that steered me to this wonderful community. We might just make this place our home."

And about a week ago when I said I believed that "everything happens for a reason" I was told I was uninformed, callous, and, insincere. Out of ruins comes life. I don't wish anyone to die - but I still hold onto my belief that there is a greater reason for everything and we may never realize what that reason was, but one of these children might grow up to be President of the United States and have quite an experience in life to share with so many future generations.

 

[kgeaux]

Listening to the Governor of Massachusetts last night - they've held three drills in one year. Three in one year - and they NEVER have hurricane direct hit there.

The evacuation for hurricane Ivan was incredible. It took people 20 plus hours to get from New Orleans to Lafayette driving on I-10. We do have contra flow here, when an emergency is declared, all lanes head out of the city, and no lanes head in. A twenty hour trip, when all lanes are headed out! Many people were stuck on the side of the road with overheated cars, cars that had run out of gas...There really are very few ways in and out of New Orleans, basically like four roads! One of the ways out leads to Hwy 90, which is underwater sometimes, like during Hurricane Lily. So if you are on 90 where it floods, trying to get west, and the rain starts, well, you've gone as far as you are going.

This is why it is incomprehensible that a mandatory evacuation was called so late with Katrina. They already knew the traffic problems.

There really isn't anyway to easily make new routes, because we're talking swamp land here, so we're stuck with those four roads. The least the government can do is to get the traffic flowing early.

They have learned NOTHING from past experience. It really is surreal, like the Twilight Zone or something. We sit here and think What is going on? (If you will pardon my French, we're really sitting around saying WTF???)

 

[less0305]

They have learned NOTHING from past experience. It really is surreal, like the Twilight Zone or something. We sit here and think What is going on? (If you will pardon my French, we're really sitting around saying WTF???)

Repeating Mayor Nagin...."It's a party town. Get over it."

 

[kgeaux]

Repeating Mayor Nagin...."It's a party town. Get over it."

Quoting him right back atcha! "I'm really pissed off."

 

[less0305]

Quoting him right back atcha! "I'm really pissed off."

Good one!

 

[kgeaux]

Good one!

I thought you'd like that! :blowkiss:

Gotta sign off now. Hubby is heading out to the middle of the Gulf of Mexico at 2AM. I think he'll be gone for about 20 or so days, so I need to go pay a little attention to him.

Talk with y'all tomorrow!

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

I'm asking you kgeaux since I hang on to every post you make. Living on the West Coast all we've been seeing today on T.V. is that beautiful area with so many of the homeowners who say the have running water, telephone and no damage to their homes.

They said IF they left their homes would only be looted or burned down. The the camera panned to a huge house that was burned down.

Do you think they will force them to leave?

They might have running water, but its unsafe to drink or wash in. And the minute they find themselves dealing with a pack of feral dogs that have been snacking on human corpses and now equate human flesh with food, not to mention the first time they're seized by plauge-level dysentery, they'll probably be desperately trying to find military personnel to haul their out.

 

[TexMex]

The evacuation for hurricane Ivan was incredible. It took people 20 plus hours to get from New Orleans to Lafayette driving on I-10. We do have contra flow here, when an emergency is declared, all lanes head out of the city, and no lanes head in. A twenty hour trip, when all lanes are headed out! Many people were stuck on the side of the road with overheated cars, cars that had run out of gas...There really are very few ways in and out of New Orleans, basically like four roads! One of the ways out leads to Hwy 90, which is underwater sometimes, like during Hurricane Lily. So if you are on 90 where it floods, trying to get west, and the rain starts, well, you've gone as far as you are going.

This is why it is incomprehensible that a mandatory evacuation was called so late with Katrina.

I know kgeaux

Critics say Nagin has made some serious missteps.Concerned about the legal ramifications of ordering people to leave their homes without enough adequate shelters, Nagin didn't issue a mandatory evacuation until Sunday morning the 29th, less than 24 hours before the storm hit, meaning that up to 100,000 people were stranded.

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/nation/12555317.htm


Look at Katrina on 9/28--what a monster

http://www.nnvl.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/index.cgi?page=items&ser=109660&large=1

 

[kgeaux]

I know kgeaux

Critics say Nagin has made some serious missteps.Concerned about the legal ramifications of ordering people to leave their homes without enough adequate shelters, Nagin didn't issue a mandatory evacuation until Sunday morning the 29th, less than 24 hours before the storm hit, meaning that up to 100,000 people were stranded.

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/nation/12555317.htm


Look at Katrina on 9/28--what a monster

http://www.nnvl.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/index.cgi?page=items&ser=109660&large=1

There are some very serious questions that are just now beginning to be asked. One of them is why shelters were not opened outside of the New Orleans area for the evacuees. The SuperDome was provided as a shelter of "last resort" but there were NO shelters of "first resort" (so to speak) that were opened anywhere. Everyone who left NO provided their own shelter, hotels, motels, staying with family and friends, etc. If the people in NO could not provide shelter for themselves, and the SuperDome was at capacity, is it any wonder that so many stayed behind in their homes??

As a "for instance" the Cajun Dome in Lafayette was not opened as a shelter for nearly a week after Katrina. You will see that over and over in every Lafayette shelter--not opened until about a week after the storm. Why is that? And why did the Red Cross open the Cajun Dome as a shelter, and not the governor?

In my mind, if you order a mandatory evacuation, and you know that roughly 67% of the area you are evacuating is living in poverty, then you IMMEDIATELY provide them some place to go. You get those damn busses running, and you take these people to Shreveport, Monroe, Alexandria, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, and then start opening up shelters in smaller towns as needed.

I am about to believe that every ball on every level was dropped. It is probably a miracle that we don't have half a million dead bodies drapped all over south east Louisiana.