IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #163

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The State will be calling two witnesses after lunch. One or both witnesses will be testifying to ADMISSIONS OF GUILT allegedly made by RA while being detained. It could be shocking...I will keep you updated. Court is to start at 1:15 EST. Retweet. #Delphi
 
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Best screenshot I could get from video. He's still looking small and insignificant, no weigh gain.

Plus, he's aged, IMO.

Awwww . . . couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!!!

JMVHO.
 
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Guess the judge didn't think it was much of an emergency. She's the one who would have the skinny...on the slight and skinny murderer. Sorry, it just urks me thinking all that was probably because they needed to "fix" his confession. AJMO

Exactly what think too.
 
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When discussing Allen’s state at the Westville facility the prosecution stated he made an admission. His attorney said he made incriminating statements. That was just briefly mentioned, we will hear more on that after we reconvene.

When asked about the “threats” mentioned inside Leazenby’s safe keeping filing with the court, he stayed there were no “physical” threats. Adding no actual threats were made to Allen or the facility.

We are on recess until 1:15. Updates in this thread.

Allen’s attorney said he made “incriminating statements,” linking him to the Delphi murders. The prosecutor agreed, saying that he made an “admission.”

However, Allen’s attorney said that the incriminating statements couldn’t be trusted because of his current mental state

An intern for Allen’s attorney, who has been working this case, testified to the conditions of the facility. Stating that it’s not easy for them to get access to their client and that he looks and sounds awful compared to the first time they met.


 
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When discussing Allen’s state at the Westville facility the prosecution stated he made an admission. His attorney said he made incriminating statements. That was just briefly mentioned, we will hear more on that after we reconvene.

When asked about the “threats” mentioned inside Leazenby’s safe keeping filing with the court, he stayed there were no “physical” threats. Adding no actual threats were made to Allen or the facility.

We are on recess until 1:15. Updates in this thread.

Allen’s attorney said he made “incriminating statements,” linking him to the Delphi murders. The prosecutor agreed, saying that he made an “admission.”

However, Allen’s attorney said that the incriminating statements couldn’t be trusted because of his current mental state

An intern for Allen’s attorney, who has been working this case, testified to the conditions of the facility. Stating that it’s not easy for them to get access to their client and that he looks and sounds awful compared to the first time they met.


How convenient he was a competent, hard working Pharm Tech who was responsible for people's. medication (not to be taken lightly), with a wife and social life that included hiking and barroom pool contests kind of guy UNTIL they arrested him and put him in jail.

Now he's mentally incompetent? Hah, good luck with that. Reality has set in for Mr. RA and he knows what he's done and will have to answer for it in a court of law. Anxiety, stress, conniving, and manipulation have him looking like he does right now in my opinion. Sorry, not sorry.

Can't wait to hear what the confession of guilt might be about.

ALL MOO
 
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Richard Allen’s attorneys have made their way into the courthouse. Allen is set to appear before a judge at 10am. No phones are allowed in the courtroom, so I will update as I can.

When discussing Allen’s state at the Westville facility the prosecution stated he made an admission. His attorney said he made incriminating statements. That was just briefly mentioned, we will hear more on that after we reconvene.

When asked about the “threats” mentioned inside Leazenby’s safe keeping filing with the court, he stayed there were no “physical” threats. Adding no actual threats were made to Allen or the facility.

We are on recess until 1:15. Updates in this thread.

The judge will not be deciding on a motion to dismiss key ballistic evidence in this case. This morning the defense called their 4 witnesses to the stand to testify on moving Allen.

Former Carrol County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby was the first witness to the stand. He testified that they can’t house Allen in their jail. He said they don’t have the staff or the capability to do so. He said if Allen was there he would have to be in general population.

Leazenby was questioned by the defense about his decision to put Allen in the Westfield facility, after stating he never went to the facility to check it out.

Leazenby said he made the decision to transfer Allen out of a fear for his safety and the facility.

When asked about the “threats” mentioned inside Leazenby’s safe keeping filing with the court, he stayed there were no “physical” threats. Adding no actual threats were made to Allen or the facility.

When discussing Allen’s state at the Westville facility the prosecution stated he made an admission. His attorney said he made incriminating statements. That was just briefly mentioned, we will hear more on that after we reconvene.

Allen’s attorney said he made “incriminating statements,” linking him to the Delphi murders. The prosecutor agreed, saying that he made an “admission.”

However, Allen’s attorney said that the incriminating statements couldn’t be trusted because of his current mental state

An intern for Allen’s attorney, who has been working this case, testified to the conditions of the facility. Stating that it’s not easy for them to get access to their client and that he looks and sounds awful compared to the first time they met.

The Cass county sheriff took to the stand and testified about what their facility. He said that they have the capability of holding Allen but that he “didn’t want to”

A captain from the Westville facility talked about how the facility houses their inmates. And explained some of the questions on the defense rose.

That’s all I have time for right now, I have to go back in. Updates will come.

Allen’s attorney said he made “incriminating statements,” linking him to the Delphi murders. The prosecutor agreed, saying that he made an “admission.”

However, Allen’s attorney said that the incriminating statements couldn’t be trusted because of his current mental state

An intern for Allen’s attorney, who has been working this case, testified to the conditions of the facility. Stating that it’s not easy for them to get access to their client and that he looks and sounds awful compared to the first time they met.

The Cass county sheriff took to the stand and testified about what their facility. He said that they have the capability of holding Allen but that he “didn’t want to”

A captain from the Westville facility talked about how the facility houses their inmates. And explained some of the questions on the defense rose.

That’s all I have time for right now, I have to go back in. Updates will come.

Edited: Made fixes / include tweets
 
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Does anyone recall if he's been evaluated for mental competency to stand trial?

I don't think so, correct?

JMVHO.
 
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Incriminating statements and moving Richard Allen to a new facility are key moments from today's Delphi murders case hearing.



6.15.2023

During the June 15 hearing, the defense attorney and prosecutor both mentioned incriminating statements that Allen allegedly made while in prison. They have not yet elaborated on those statements, however, the defense attorney said that those statements were very generic and inconsistent with Allen's previous statements of denial.

The biggest thing that came out of the hearing during the morning session is that the motion to dismiss the ballistic evidence will be considered at a later date.

The state’s probable cause affidavit says the Indiana State Police crime lab tested a gun found inside Allen’s home, and test results show that same gun is linked to an unfired bullet that investigators found between the bodies of the two teenage victims.
 
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Does anyone recall if he's been evaluated for mental competency to stand trial?

I don't think so, correct?

JMVHO.
He did have some mental health evals at Westerville. The Judge denied access to those, but did allow notes, observations made or talk with staff, inmates allowable.

ALL MOO
 
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UPDATE: Judge Frances Gull and attorneys for Richard Allen are discussing statements Allen made about the Delphi murders while in prison, according to @RichardEssexIII. News 8 will have the latest details at 5 and 6 p.m. More:



Updated: Jun 15, 2023 / 01:16 PM EST

UPDATE: Judge Gull will deal only with a safekeeping motion during Thursday’s hearing, according to I-Team 8 investigative reporter Richard Essex.

Allen’s attorneys want him moved to a new correctional facility because of his treatment in prison.

Gull and the attorneys are also discussing statements Allen made about the Delphi murders while in prison, Essex says.

The court will not take up the motion to suppress or the motion about ballistics evidence during Thursday’s hearing.

The court says it will create a new website to allow public access to some, but not all, of the motions filed in the case. This process could take up to a week to complete, according to Essex.
 
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I can understand not taking up the ballistics motion. If the judge agrees with the prosecution about the incriminating/admission statements, the ballistics evidence may become moot. A plea deal or a guilty plea would be the next step.
 
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I can understand not taking up the ballistics motion. If the judge agrees with the prosecution about the incriminating/admission statements, the ballistics evidence may become moot. A plea deal or a guilty plea would be the next step.


Are jailhouse confessions admissable during a trial?
 
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I guess the bail hearing won't be happening
 
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