Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #104

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  • #741
I think someone who murders innocent girls has no moral boundaries which includes no respect for the law. But in a possible hunting scenario, especially if his vehicle was parked on the road underneath the SE end of the bridge he would’ve had ample opportunity to ditch any bright orange clothing before advancing onto the bridge from that end, upon spotting the girls on the bridge. JMO
I believe that the only thing he was hunting was non-animals, unfortunately.
 
  • #742
Going back to the very beginning of the investigation, implies what? Perhaps, anyone and everyone whom they spoke to? Hard to believe this person is young.

I know, but that thinking BG was middle aged based on the video drew comparisons to many older Midwesterners who dress similarly and didn’t amount to any good leads. The video is pixelated, taken from a distance, vague.. it could be anyone, and may have been misinterpreted. So it’s probably a good idea to go back and interview (or re-interview) anyone and everyone around the scene that day, to be sure. IMO.
 
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It looks long and hard and I'm certain it's not his "Willy" :) Not meant to be crude, just sayin'.

Yep, not that. I agree it’s a jumbled up mess of blue jeans caught at the wrong moment to look like that. It might be a clue... don’t know. (That his pants are too big o_O)
 
  • #745
Yep, not that. I agree it’s a jumbled up mess of blue jeans caught at the wrong moment to look like that. It might be a clue... don’t know. (That his pants are too big o_O)

I just rewatched the video of him walking. IMO it looks like something solid. At the point where he bends his leg, it looks like the object is still there and poking the jeans at the knee.
 
  • #746
I just rewatched the video of him walking. IMO it looks like something solid. At the point where he bends his leg, it looks like the object is still there and poking the jeans at the knee.

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Looking at it again, I wonder myself. How he traversed the bridge with something like an axe in his pants is hard to get, but it could be. Not ready to rule it out at present.
 
  • #747
Very interesting to see that frame frozen! I think it looks like a very long, thin leg swimming in baggy pants.
 
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Looking at it again, I wonder myself. How he traversed the bridge with something like an axe in his pants is hard to get, but it could be. Not ready to rule it out at present.

I’m thinking it may not have been that difficult if the object was taped to his leg and if he had practice walking that bridge.
 
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I’m sure this has been posted before, but the stabilized version (especially slowed down) has me thinking he has something down his right leg. However, I do also think he has extremely skinny legs, so I think that’s part of it too. Very very very skinny legs. MOO
 
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I’m sure this has been posted before, but the stabilized version (especially slowed down) has me thinking he has something down his right leg. However, I do also think he has extremely skinny legs, so I think that’s part of it too. Very very very skinny legs. MOO
Like someone who is 6' and weighs 120lbs? Just thinking out loud....

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #751
Like someone who is 6' and weighs 120lbs? Just thinking out loud....

Amateur opinion and speculation

And whose toes point out like that... juuust sayin! Awfully coincidental at the moment. MOO
 
  • #752
I don’t think he has anything stuffed down his right pant leg. I think he is starting to turn left as his left foot was placed down pointing to the left. As he picks up his right foot the fabric of the right pant leg is stretched and causes the long ripple in the fabric from crotch to the knee.
Not sure if he has skinny legs or not but the jeans appear to be relaxed fit and maybe a size too big.
 
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That's NO catheter, if you ask me!

Having worn a catheter for a year I strongly agree that is not a long plastic catheter bag tube under his jeans. See photo provided for reference. I have often wondered if it is a crow bar /wrecking bar to use as a weapon. I’ve also thought it could be a rifle but I don’t know enough about guns to comment.
 
  • #754
Machete or other long knife in a scabbard?
 
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Having worn a catheter for a year I strongly agree that is not a long plastic catheter bag tube under his jeans. See photo provided for reference. I have often wondered if it is a crow bar /wrecking bar to use as a weapon. I’ve also thought it could be a rifle but I don’t know enough about guns to comment.

I truly believe that there is nothing in his jeans.

It would be incredibly awkward to walk with something like that (gun, sharp weapon, etc), and it would have been unnecessary.
 
  • #756
Yep, not that. I agree it’s a jumbled up mess of blue jeans caught at the wrong moment to look like that. It might be a clue... don’t know. (That his pants are too big o_O)
I would say that for whatever reason, his pants are too big but I don't think at all it is due to that loose style of jeans that some young people have! It could be that the pants are not his, he has lost weight recently or whatever, they just don't look 'right.'! I think that weird crease is due to the ill fitting pants.
 
  • #757
I don’t think he has anything stuffed down his right pant leg. I think he is starting to turn left as his left foot was placed down pointing to the left. As he picks up his right foot the fabric of the right pant leg is stretched and causes the long ripple in the fabric from crotch to the knee.
Not sure if he has skinny legs or not but the jeans appear to be relaxed fit and maybe a size too big.

I totally agree with you. Also if you look at his left leg, the fabric bucks up in a similar fashion as he steps. Just jeans here I believe. Nothing to see here...move along.
 
  • #758
I totally agree with you. Also if you look at his left leg, the fabric bucks up in a similar fashion as he steps. Just jeans here I believe. Nothing to see here...move along.
In addition, his shoes or runners don't show up in the photos/video very well at all. I think though that his footware is kinda bland looking and looks small, suggesting he has small feet.
 
  • #759
A leg brace?
 
  • #760
I know, but that thinking BG was middle aged based on the video drew comparisons to many older Midwesterners who dress similarly and didn’t amount to any good leads. The video is pixelated, taken from a distance, vague.. it could be anyone, and may have been misinterpreted. So it’s probably a good idea to go back and interview (or re-interview) anyone and everyone around the scene that day, to be sure. IMO.


MOO a younger suspect fits crime better.
I could believe a man that looked like OBG was a killer, in a McDonalds parking lot, motel, family home, or a city park, but actively cornering victims on a decaying RR bridge seems like a young thing to do.
 
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