Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #108

[tresir2012]

That is strange. I just compared my links to yours and only the first one is different. It doesn't matter because both videos are the same. In the second link, scroll down to "About the Case" and it's underneath the second paragraph. You really only need to read the text in the second image I posted.

Thankfully we don't have the EU problem in Oz. Sometimes things that aren't available in the EU are on YouTube so it's worth checking out. I find some US things aren't available in Australia, but that's not because of the EU issue. I think they're just not available outside the US.

Thanks for your help. The copy of the article that is showing for me has no live links in it at all. They are all just sentences. It is very strange. If you actually click on the link within the article and play the video, pause it, then copy and paste the direct link showing on your Http bar, it could work. But who knows it's weird censorship. Thanks for trying anyway.

 

[kc1023]

So, Snapchat? I’m behind. Someone said that the Snapchat location thing wasn’t active in 2017. Were there other apps that could track where a person was in 2017? Could someone please paraphrase what the thoughts are now? I can’t believe that this case hasn’t been solved yet. Someone has to know who BG is. MOO.

It would be pretty easy to tell where they were from the snap Libby sent from the High Bridge. So anyone that was able to see her snaps would've known they were at the bridge at that time. Even if BG was not on her friend's list, he could have seen the snap while someone else on her list was looking at it. Also, I think for "My Story" you have settings options in which you can choose "only friends" or "anyone can view". I don't think we know for sure if it was on her story, but I'd guess it probably was.

 

[HEY YOU!]

BG was comfortable walking on that bridge with his hands in his pockets. Most of us need our arms to keep our balance while walking.

I thought I remembered that the reason the girls were filing was to make money to go to the mall that day, is that true. if so, why change of plans to go to bridge.

Girls were up super late, 2-3 am making musically videos online. Surely this was a great opportunity for BG to discuss meeting the following day. Perhaps he said first, 'let's meet at the mall' to make it sound safe and then changed plans to meet at bridge.

 

[Boxer]

It would be pretty easy to tell where they were from the snap Libby sent from the High Bridge. So anyone that was able to see her snaps would've known they were at the bridge at that time. Even if BG was not on her friend's list, he could have seen the snap while someone else on her list was looking at it. Also, I think for "My Story" you have settings options in which you can choose "only friends" or "anyone can view". I don't think we know for sure if it was on her story, but I'd guess it probably was.

Exactly, the assailant having access to the phone of any of Libby's friends would let him see the timeline.

 

[Boxer]

Im glad to see you all didnt call off the search overnight. Good finds.

I wish I could find the legit source for me believing that either a family member or LEO said the audio contained BG becoming frustrated with the girls.

Im pretty convinced the source was audiovisual.


Also would like to find the news footage of local Delphi dignitaries announcing reaching a funding target or grant granted(for trails?). The Mayor is the 2nd speaker iirc.

Yes.
I know I saw a detective or deputy say that. The removal and editing of past publications and primary sources on the web is not a good thing.

 

[Jamie737]

BG was comfortable walking on that bridge with his hands in his pockets. Most of us need our arms to keep our balance while walking.

I thought I remembered that the reason the girls were filing was to make money to go to the mall that day, is that true. if so, why change of plans to go to bridge.

Girls were up super late, 2-3 am making musically videos online. Surely this was a great opportunity for BG to discuss meeting the following day. Perhaps he said first, 'let's meet at the mall' to make it sound safe and then changed plans to meet at bridge.

I am afraid you're right. Having raised three girls and being a teenager myself once I can completely see how there was a meeting set up and that the girls would have felt safer because there were two of them.

In that scenario the original video was perhaps a visual diary entry and the turn events took just a little later even the more tragic.

You cannot police teenagers 24/7. They are crafty at figuring out ways past your defences.

 

[MistyWaters]

It would be pretty easy to tell where they were from the snap Libby sent from the High Bridge. So anyone that was able to see her snaps would've known they were at the bridge at that time. Even if BG was not on her friend's list, he could have seen the snap while someone else on her list was looking at it. Also, I think for "My Story" you have settings options in which you can choose "only friends" or "anyone can view". I don't think we know for sure if it was on her story, but I'd guess it probably was.

It seems to me it’d be unusual for somebody to just send a photo without any advance comment about the plans leading up to it (“will send a pic!”), even if it was only a short time in advance. Early on I misunderstood SC to be a photo sharing app. Now that I understand it’s not just that, I strongly believe there was some sort of prior online communication regarding her and Abby’s outing to the bridge.

 

[Justice101]

Following... waiting on something significant to come forward soon. Fingers crossed!

 

[tresir2012]

BG was comfortable walking on that bridge with his hands in his pockets. Most of us need our arms to keep our balance while walking.

I thought I remembered that the reason the girls were filing was to make money to go to the mall that day, is that true. if so, why change of plans to go to bridge.

Girls were up super late, 2-3 am making musically videos online. Surely this was a great opportunity for BG to discuss meeting the following day. Perhaps he said first, 'let's meet at the mall' to make it sound safe and then changed plans to meet at bridge.

Is there a mall in Delphi?

 

[FinePrint]

Is there a mall in Delphi?

No

 

[x_files]

And foe?

YES!
A stalkers paradise. Also, turn off Friends NearBy on your Facebook App. These platforms do NOT protect privacy.

 

[HEY YOU!]

I suspect BG had a burner phone and communicated with Libby using that so he would not be traced which means he knew her real age and was planning on doing something illegal. It looks like he came prepared by the looks of that lumpy coat and fanny pack. It looks like he just wants to kill, not like a normal sex crime since it appears to be planned ahead of time.
Was BG abusing Libby and pretending to be someone else online to see if she talked about it
Was BG caught by Libby committing a crime that would interfere with his job/family/life
Was BG an older person close to the family who catfished Libby to set her up to be murdered for
revenge

I know teens will document all for their social media, I know they screenshot conversations and pics of boys they like. I am willing to bet BG used an app that could not be traced like kik so he was not as worried about his phone history with her. If it was a burner phone, he would need to buy minutes. Is there a POI who has been seen buying those on camera or online. I feel like he knew what he was going to do and that he could easily destroy Libby's phone. I feel BG was given an alibi by someone who initially thought he didn't do it and then was scared to come forward.

 

[HEY YOU!]

No

Was it said somewhere that the girls were trying to earn money to go shopping and that Becky let them file so earn that money.

 

[BNA]

BG was comfortable walking on that bridge with his hands in his pockets. Most of us need our arms to keep our balance while walking.

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I think he was drunk. I think that is the thing that trained LE noticed about his gait. I think they concluded he was unable to walk a straight line.

Just prior to the vid/pic, he had drifted too close to the edge.

Their perp is a functioning alcoholic, imho. As is my perp.

 

[susiQ]

I think he was drunk. I think that is the thing that trained LE noticed about his gait. I think they concluded he was unable to walk a straight line.

Just prior to the vid/pic, he had drifted too close to the edge.

Their perp is a functioning alcoholic, imho. As is my perp.

Wow! If he was drunk, he's good. I couldn't do that bridge sober never mind after a couple of drinks

 

[TheVisual]

I think he was drunk. I think that is the thing that trained LE noticed about his gait. I think they concluded he was unable to walk a straight line.

Just prior to the vid/pic, he had drifted too close to the edge.

Their perp is a functioning alcoholic, imho. As is my perp.

But then would he have been able to get across the bridge, down the hill, across the creek without falling himself and losing control of the girls. Seems like a pretty big stretch.

 

[FinePrint]

Was it said somewhere that the girls were trying to earn money to go shopping and that Becky let them file so earn that money.

They would have to go to Lafayette to go to a mall.

 

[BNA]

But then would he have been able to get across the bridge, down the hill, across the creek without falling himself and losing control of the girls. Seems like a pretty big stretch.

Functioning alcoholics are capable of many things.

 

[BNA]

Wow! If he was drunk, he's good. I couldn't do that bridge sober never mind after a couple of drinks

Not after. During. He was likely drinking all day and carrying alcohol with him. Again, imho.

I think we got ourselves bogged down with the meth angle here, when, really, a much more common substance was prominent in his actions that day.....alcohol.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

An outdoor PC was held at the one year mark. Maybe it’s in this one? I notice it’s 20 minutes long but I haven’t watched it all.

Thanks for your efforts MW , appreciated, but its not that one either.

I think mine was like a civic press conf, outside, with various speakers, inc the Delphi Mayor, a local Govrnmnt guy etc....all stood behind whoever was speaking at the Mic and they each handed over to the next guy, who then had to take a short walk down to the Microphone to speak